Eighteen Reasons
1) They like indie music. Obviously.
2) Their regulation thick-frame black glasses. No more breakable item of nosewear has ever been invented: on slow afternoons I could happily cruise the streets for hours walking up to indie kids, lifting these ridiculous excuses for spectacles from their filthy-pored noses and breaking them at the bridge. How the indie kid would howl! Perhaps they would threaten to “kick my ass”. Needless to say all indie kids have adequate eyesight: any slight impairment of vision is due entirely to their regime of perpetual masturbation.
3) Indie kids are at it like rabbits. Or want to be. Scratch any ‘community’ or ‘scene’ of indie kids and you will find a seething cauldron of sexual frustration and backstabbing. Most indie kids are vile to look upon: I think this because I am enslaved by societal standards of beauty.
4) Societal standards of anything are bad, pretty much. Unless it gets you a shag. Or earns you – or more likely your parents – the vast amount of money needed to get through college on some no-mark computer games degree AND buy a billion useless identical records.
5) On the rare occasions when an indie kid does get it on it at least distracts them from listening to indie music. Or making it. All indie kids are in indie bands.
6) Indie is short for independent, because indie kids are not mainstream. No sir. They are individuals. A quick look at an indie kid website will reassure you of that.
7) All indie kids are unique. They are however looking for other indie kids who are unique in exactly the same way as them – cool, huh?
8) Among the unique things about indie kids are their haircuts. The square mainstream observer might mistake the uniform dyed bobs and crops of indieland as the sinister hairstyles of a clone army hell-bent on taking over teenage america and making it listen to At The Drive-In. But such an observer would be a fool. There are crucial differences in the haircuts. Some are, like, really expensive.
9) Some records are really expensive, too. You must really love the music to spend $200 on eBay on a one-sided seven-inch, right? It shows your dedication to music is for real and unique, like your taste.
10) Indie fashions are individual and unique too, and are marked by the indie kid’s strong sense of irony. For example, a lot of indie kids like wearing overalls and workshirts as worn by real live working class people. As the indie kid finishes a two-hour shift at Border’s they feel solidarity with their working-class brothers and sisters in the bakeries and pizza delivery companies all across the nation.
11) They don’t feel solidarity with the suits working in offices, though. Those people are a plastic fake herd of manufactured, soulless brainwashed lemming robot drone sheep enslaved to mass culture pap. (This is true, obviously. But sorry, indie kids are worse.)
12) Not all mass culture is pap, though. Hey! What about those cool Powerpuff Girls?
13) Infantilism is endemic to the indie kids. When was the last time you heard one of them use the word ‘man’ or ‘woman’. Nope, it’s always ‘boys’ and ‘girls’. Some girls are ‘cute’. Some boys are ‘cute’ too. The more incurable indie kids use the words ‘grrrl’ and – shudder – ‘boi’, for all the world as if they were living in a Disneyworld 1994 Experience ride or fell into a copy of Sassy once and never escaped.
14) When indie kids pair off with a cute grrrl or boi (all indie kids are in theory bisexual, of course. Just don’t ask them to do anything about it.) they tend to treat each other like shit and then write it up on their web pages (“I am SUCH the geek”). This is because they are very sensitive, not as the casual observer might have guessed because they are emotional dwarves with no concept of human interaction outside a fanzine problem page. You become sensitive by listening to Belle And Sebastian a lot.
15) All their records sound the same, due to influence inbreeding. The gene pool of influences on indie rock has been shrinking steadily since 1977, thanks to paranoid scenester tastemaking. The constant slathering praise directed at the likes of the Get Up Kids and Sleater-Kinney is the critical equivalent of a one-eyed chinless inbred mutant winning a beauty contest.
16) Indie kids like experimentation, but not too much experimentation. They like extremity, but not too much extremity. They like songs, but they like them to be a bit shy and fuzzed-up and nervous and not too songish. Best of all they like bands which sound comfortingly like the other ones they already know are cool.
17) Of course they listen to other stuff too, carefully weighing it up for its purity of motive and general indie-ness. Other genres are assessed with a practised eye, and only the records which have the most spiritual kinship to indie are acceptable – no attempt is made to take these musics on their own terms, since indie is in any case superior. Eventually a fashionably anti-PC stance allows the indie kid to reject even bothering with hip-hop or dance records – that would after all be ‘tokenism’.
18) The worst thing about indie kids is how apalling they are at even being indie kids. After idling their college years going to ‘shows’ every other day and then spending two years in retail working on a screenplay or writing a novel about following a band or recording a thousand tinny songs on a hundred cheap cassettes and giving them to people they fancy in the hope that a rare Braid EP track might get them a quick fuck on some other indie kid’s sofa and pretending to like the Spice Girls and pretending to like the Magnetic Fields and pretending to like each other – after all that they suddenly get a job and start listening to Moby and Aimee Mann. What I ask you is the fucking point?
Tom Ewing and Maura Johnston
SPECIAL 2007 EDIT FOR THE COMMENTS BOX MASSIVE:
1. This was written in 2001. So don’t complain that we’re talking about emo not indie. Back in 2001, this stuff was indie, and emo was merely a gleam in a marketer’s eye.
2. I don’t know whether the View and the Fratellis are indie or not, but I do know that you should be ashamed to listen to them.
I like some indie bands, some are good, i.e. bloc party, radiohead, kasbian etc etc.
I’m 21 now, when i was 16 i descovered Indie music, it wasn’t that big, but these day all younger generations seem to be indie and have enormous adolescent ego’s and sheer arrogance towards anything other. This whole ‘ im indie and i am better than you’ really annoys me.
Fuck indie fags! mainstream cunts that exagerate everything. and wtf is with the wearing tight jeans and fucking both boys and girls, what fuckheads, if any indie fag listen to black metal ( btw i don’t me new breed stuff like cradle of filth) they’d shit themselves and hopefully hang themselves too :)
Metal Head For Life
Haaaaaa!
This is so ignorant i don’t even know where to start.
First.. emo kids and indie kids are not NOT not the same. What you wrote applies mostly to EMO kids and still its just stereotypical trash. Indie kids don’t have a set style really. What really being an indie kid is about: listening to music you like that’s generally non-mainstream and dressing how you like. I’m an “indie kid” .. I guess if i NEEDED to label myself. In fact.. I hate labeling anyone, but for this argument I’ll generalize an entire group of people that are hard to generalize and generalize them (ha!). That makes sense right? Nooo. That would be like saying, “Rap artists are ALL black, ALL of them came from the hood, ALL of them used to be in a gang, and ALL of them blow dick.” This is not true. There are white rap artists, some came from nice wealthy areas, there are rappers that have never ever been in a gang or associated with a gang, and there are many good rap artists (yes being an “indie kid” I like rap too. the good shit: bone thugs, warren g, snoop, wiz, immortal tech, biggie, dre, atmosphere, eazy e, ect.)
So before you go being ignorant and generalizing people.. actually get to know the group you’re trying to rag on and put the fucking stereotypes to rest already it’s 2010, goddamnit!
Oh.. and to the sick ass tough guy metal head..
I used to be into the death metal/hardcore scene when I was younger and I still occasionally listen to that genre still and no I don’t shit myself and I don’t feel like hanging myself. And no I never really listened to any “new breed” shit either. For metal Dimmu Borgir, Belphagor, Necrophagist, Gorelord, etc (been a while cant remember very many names right now) and for hardcore music Guns Up!, Terror, VERSE, 25 ta Life, Gorilla Biscuits, Donnybrook, Snake Eyes, Minor Threat.. I could go on forever.
I used to be hella into hardcore but the scene in the majority of southern CA started going down the shitter and I had just discovered the wonder plant that is cannabis around this time and being super stoned and listening to hardcore/metal isn’t quite as relaxing and trippy as listening to “indie music” listen to Portishead stoned or better yet after you drop acid.. you’ll see what I mean.
Peace.
“it’s 2010, goddamnit”
be sure to travel back to January 2001 and let the author know.
Lol.
Stereotype much?
I love indie music and get called indie all the time.
But that’s kinda lame that you hate on a stereotype. :P
-oh and to some of the comments where people call themselves indie.
Lol. You can’t call yourself that, that’s what posers do :P!
Isn’t saying that indie music is all the same lame ass bands a little dumb? See, cause what if you consider yourself a “gangsta”? Wouldn’t you listen to the same lame ass rap music? Same lame ass classical music.
I listen to indie music because I like it a lot. I listen to a hell of a lot of rap, classical, jazz, electro, rock music. Indie music is mostly compiled of independent bands, and a lot stay that way because who wants to sign a label to a band trying to be “independent”? The ones who do sign on, bridge the gap between indie and mass culture, appealing to both parties. Just because someone’s favourite independent band suddenly gets a label, doesn’t mean that people start hating it. It shouldn’t change the way the band plays/feels about music. Everyone has their own particular tastes and are entitled to enjoy them. Those “indie kids” aren’t trying to be unique and wonderfully individual, they’re trying to follow independent bands and support local acts. The majority of culture these days is very similar. If you’re into rnb and rap and such, you do wear the same kind of clothes, have the same hair, the same attitude. Some people just can’t handle that some want to listen to music other than Kesha or Black Eyes Peas. Please handle that fact carefully. The indie kids are all the same, but who said they can’t be? You’re all the same! Now quieten down, I want to listen to some Vampire Weekend, Jason Derulo, and Vivaldi.
LOL.
oi man, those aren’t indie kids. That’s lamo emo. And everyone else is describing fakers. Those stupid glasses are bullshizzle. They’re not real indie kids! What fake stupid posers. Gah. And yes, I googled I hate indie just to see what others opinions are. But this is totally a misrepresentation of the poor kids who show interest in unsigned and upcoming bands :(:(:(
Meh. I’m not going to tell you how I’m different because I identify myself as “indie” or how you should learn your shit, how “hard” my life is or how sexually frustrated I am because nobody will “shag” me. Way to be a tool, I guess,though.
Thank you for writing this.
All you ‘Indie’ fuckers crying about this… cut it the fuck out. You read it but nobody asked you to.
Go buy some vintage clothes and listen to your ‘records’ (because everyone knows, records are way better.)
Seriously, with this ‘stick it to the man’ bullshit.
It’s a fad. Your going to grow up and get a real job -look back and say ‘haha. OMG. how could i ever dress and act like that?’
Much like people are saying now, in accordance to how they dressed and acted in the ’80’s.
Do yourself a favor and stop now, before you embarrass yourself.
take off your lens-less glasses, your ’90’s t-shirts with eagles on it, your chuck taylor’s. Take your fixed gear bikes and your ‘record collections’ and Fuck off somewhere.
Red Hot Chili Peppers Rule!
Here see by saying that People who listen to a certian band are totally uncool and completly not indie and are cum shit or whatever?
Isnt that just contradicting everything about being indie?
cause in all honesty i dont think they give a shit cause thats them being them and listening to the music they want
Oppressing someone thats just being them and calling them unoriginal is actually a total contradiction to being indie
CAUSE IT MEANS INDEPENDANT AND ORIGINAL it doesnt mean listening to bands that are classed “indie”
The funny thing about all the people complaining about this is that they say they’re indie themselves and they’re not like that.
Indie kids don’t ADMIT to being indie, so if you say you’re indie, that’s why you aren’t like what’s said in the article!
Stumped yourself in the foot there indie cunts :)
However, Bloc Party are bloody amazing, just thought I’d let all the indie kids know, cuz they can’t listen to them cuz they aren’t ‘indie’ enough despite being in NMfuckingE a lot :)
And god bless Scenekidscanfuckoff
lol wow. You can’t call someone “indie” just by looking at what they wear? and ya theres no such thing as an “indie” kid..just because you listen to bands that are signed to an independent label does not mean that your “indie” it means you like listening to indie music..and you do whatever the fuck you want. I have black and thick framed glasses and i listen to indie music but im not an “indie” kid..i just happen to need glasses to see and i like that style of music. Sure maybe people who listen to this type of music have similarities but it doesn’t mean there all some random group of people trying to look cool..that would be idiotic and pointless.
fuckindiekidsuptheasswitharustyknife:
“there are the mainstream indie kids.
then there are the pseudo-bohemian indie kids.”
Jesus Christ. ‘Mainstream indie kids?’ Excuse me while I vomit.
They’re all the same whiny little fuckers that are no different from the rest of society, save for another level of hypocrisy. Sorry, do you take offense at my comment? You must be one of them.
This is actually incredible!
I’ve been told I’m indie so many times, and it’s just another pigeon-hole to make managing modern society easier for other unintelligent stereotypes. Really, it’s just a joke, and personally, I still found reading this excessively enjoyable.
Everyone really needs to lighten the fuck up and take it as a joke! Why do you all feel the need to chronicle your entire bloody lives in order to prove to someone you don’t even know that you are ‘socially acceptable’?
You can fucking listen to indie or drum and bass or The fucking Clash if you want to – if you’re so insecure about the way you are that you actually feel the need to justify yourself here, of all places, then maybe you should rethink your ‘indie’ lifestyle.
I’d also like to point out that, if you think and admit that you’re ‘Indie’,(let’s be totally honest)you’re merely a little twat and this whole list applies sincerely and UNQUESTIONABLY to you because your displeasing aesthetical aspects, apocryphal standards and assumed role of Karen O’s biggest fan decree it so.
…and I just read back – ‘one category of human’? ‘INDIE’ IS NOT A CATEGORY OF HUMAN! Stop trying to make it seem more important than it is – it’s a fashion and a fad and a genre, and you can choose to ‘follow’ it if you like or just choose to do what you want and not pursue an idealistic, short-sighted modern hype; it surely is no ‘category of human’. Jesus christ! Steady on with these utterly preposterous claims of significance! And to all the people ranting about how they don’t call girls ‘Grrls’, then why get offended? If you’re ‘not indie’, then this thread quite blatently does not apply to you anyway.
you know what?
im fed up with you little trolls on the internet saying “omg scenekids are scum” or “omg indies are loser” ect ect
for christ sake, whats so wrong with expressing your fashion,music,personalty or what ever. at the end of the day the people who write these things are nothing but losers and your just going to except the fact every one is different. i mean i hate disney, but ive got freinds who like that stuff. and i dont rub shit in there face.
oh and btw my twin sister is an indie kid but she listens to daft punk and house music
the same shit applied to emo like 5 years ago. as much as you call yourselves unique, you’ll never be because you will still be following a TREND. the music you listen to is no better than the deathcore bullcrap the emos listen to, it’s all way too hyped up. you’re all so generic. the mere fact that you claim yourselves to be something disgusts me.
This is stupid.
If you’re unique, you don’t care what one person says about you. Because you like being you.
If you want people to always like you, change your name to David Anderson or Ashley Johnson, become a freakishy stereotypical pod-person, and get on with your life.
If that doesn’t sound appealing to you, then don’t do it.
Simple. -.0
People stereotype me all the time. Just because you’re given a label doesn’t mean you have to wear it.
I like skinnies because I feel comfortable in them, and people tell me I look good in them. I like having black hair because it makes my eyes look really pretty. I love Gothique and Baroque music because it’s fun to play it on the piano.
I have scars on my arm from five years ago when I went to the mental hospital because Voices were telling me that someone was trying to kill me and I was having delusions about my psychiatrist trying to poison me with the medicines and my teachers watching me because a woman had told them to. The woman turned out not to be real.
People stereotype me because I’m Schizophrenic, but they’ll stereotype anything. Deal with it.
THIS IS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE. Reason 19, all indie kids get pissed when you call them indie, call themselves individuals (even though they all dress the same, do the same things, and listen to the same music, take lookbook for example) and deny any affiliation with the term indie.
I’m sorry, are you mental? Listen mate, I don’t refer to myself as indie because I hate hate HATE stereotypes, but just like indie kids, I’d prefer something out of the box versus settling with the norm. Just because I like GOOD music that isn’t over-played on every radio station doesn’t mean I’m going to spend $200 on eBay. Theres a local record store that always hooks me up with really good records at low prices. Instead of being such a narrow-minded, intolerant saddo, maybe you should try doing something on your own instead of following the masses so you can gain acceptance or whatever you’re after. This was a terribly written thread and you come off as arrogant and brainless, unlike the people you’re so quick to attack, so fuck you and fuck what you think. You’re not the one whose making money designing cover/poster art for an independant (but known) comedy troupe and I am, so have a nice life striving to fit in with your 9-5 job and your obvious indefference to culture and the creative community.
Generally, I just judge people on how they are, not on whether they’re scene, or emo etc. I’m generally called indie, but whatever… If you’re an emo or whatever, you might be alright, I just don’t share the same intrests as you, but if you’re an alright person, fair enough. But you, mr article writer, are a fucking wanker!
Just thought I’d let everybody know my thoughts :)
Wow, you are such an incredible bigot. What gives you the right to typecast people like this? You claim that “indie kids” are some of the most vile, sexually-driven, mainstream people out there, and yet you don’t stop to question if you are any better than this false image. I’m not an “indie kid”, I don’t appreciate labels, and I dislike the stupid, juvenile people who conjure them up to create dissent for no other reason than to appear worldy or witty. You’re disguting.
Why comment if you don’t like the article? I’m not saying that im indie or not. Just pointing something out. If you we’re REALLY indie then you wouldn’t give a damn what he/she has to say.
Ha Ha Ha! Some of this article was funny. If you’re worrying about labels, you’re thinking too hard. I’ve been called an “idie kid” a lot. Honestly I don’t mind. If people like what I listen to, cool. If not, that’s cool too. What it comes down to is the music. Forget the rest.
LOL. This is the WORST interpret of an ‘Indie Kid’
1 – no
2 – no
3 – no
4 – no
5 – no
7 – no
8 – no
9 – no
10 – no
11 – no
12 – no
13 – no
14 – no
15 – no
16 – no
17 – no
18 – no
stereotyping is part of this world we live in, whether you like it or not. Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason. Not all indie kids are like this, but most are.
LOL. I love how you insulted all the indie people and they refuse to see it’s a joke. xD
I lol’d at this.
LOL. I love how you insulted all the indie people and they refuse to see it’s a joke. xD
I lol’d at this.
Also, @LOL. You said 1-NO. So…Indie kids don’t like Indie music?
i love this article.
I’m in a band and sadly we get heaps of indie people coming to watch us play…
I’m so tempted on wearing a shirt that says “I am not one of them”.