Comments on: The Man With No Name’s Name! https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/05/the-man-with-no-names-name Lollards in the high church of low culture Sun, 17 May 2009 11:58:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Pete Baran https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/05/the-man-with-no-names-name/comment-page-1#comment-616588 Sun, 17 May 2009 11:58:14 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=14188#comment-616588 a) Yes blog L’n’R.

b) The comic series tend to carry on regardless to the films these days, having noticed that popular films do not seem to drive people to the comics, and if they do what the new readers like is being inducted into a fiendishly complex back story. An example of this may well be that last year, when The Incredible Hulk movie came out, they were at a point in comics where
1) the Hulk had been shot into space because he was too dangerous
2) the Hulk had conquered an alien planet and its warlike denizens, getting a queen in the bargain (Planet Hulk)
3) said queen and planet get damaged by the ship the Hulk is sent to space in
4) Hulk returns to Earth and tries to beat up everyone because they shot him into space and killed his wife (World War Hulk)
5) Hulk vanishes to be replaced by a Bright Red Hulk!

It was at point 5 the film was released! There wasn’t even a character who looked like the star of the film in the Hulk comic! (what’s more the sobriquet “The Incredible” had been usurped by Hercules of Roman and Sam Raimi myth).

The closest I can think of them doind this is after X-Men, when Grant Morrison took over, they wore similar costumes for a bit!

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By: mark sinker https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/05/the-man-with-no-names-name/comment-page-1#comment-616565 Sun, 17 May 2009 09:58:52 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=14188#comment-616565 i have two questions for people who actually continue to read comics during and after these films

i: are they having any good or bad effect on the comics themselves, story-wise, franchise-wise
ii: in particular, film-as-a-form is all about closure; the comic as a form is all about The Serial (to adopt Wanky Theory Capitalisation): hence in the latter retconning and “Crisis in…” type moves, as the decades bring confusion and hinkiness re the weight of backstory for characters who (on paper) can live forever… so has the emergence of films-as-serial, which require EITHER response to visible ageing or (batman-style) multiple players of a role*, clouded matters further for the Narrative Technics of Serialism, or possibly unclouded it?

*TV can obviously hack Serialism, and use to it produce work that’s better TV than used to be, out of An Comics Aesthetic; I don’t think movies can… film series that get up into the VIIs and VIIIs are really not working ideas about Serialism much at all

(clue as to where i’m coming from: i’ve been very belatedly catching up with post-hiatus love&rockets, which has now been being written for more than 25 years ffs! to be massively silly about it, this project is becoming the “a la recherche du temps perdu” of comics, in terms of vastness and subject-focus… can’t speak to which is better obv as never read prowst; l&r has hottter s3chs scenes i imagine) (i think i shd blog this separately shouldn’t i?)

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By: Pete https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/05/the-man-with-no-names-name/comment-page-1#comment-616557 Sun, 17 May 2009 08:54:10 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=14188#comment-616557 It struck me thinking about the X-Men films and their diminishing returns is that what wa snice about the Wolverine character was exactly how un-bad-ass he was. In the first film he is beaten up by a woman, in the second he barely survives a fight with a woman. In the third, well he kills a woman (albeit an extremely powerful one) by distracting her. Only in the prequel does he actually “save the world” by beating up an indestructible monster balanced on top of a nuclear reactor. And it seems so much less compelling!

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By: Pete Baran https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/05/the-man-with-no-names-name/comment-page-1#comment-615403 Wed, 13 May 2009 12:56:07 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=14188#comment-615403 This review should be subtitled The Shower Of Shit Continues…

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