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	<title>Comments on: Comics: A Beginner&#8217;s Guide: Hernandez Brothers</title>
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	<description>Lollards in the high church of low culture</description>
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		<title>By: wedge</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/wedge/2008/05/comics-a-beginners-guide-hernandez-brothers/#comment-431752</link>
		<dc:creator>wedge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 15:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to love Love and Rockets - but sometime around the 90s it started to leave me cold, especially Gilbert&#039;s stuff. When he started overdoing the anti-imperialist polemic and throwing in serial killers, I think the acclaim was going to his head (is it just me or did his art get a lot uglier as well?). Check out his arrogant interview comments in recent years. The comics lost a lot of the charm and wit that won us over in the first place. I actually preferred it with more punk and SF elements - I can watch police brutality, racism, poverty, and bisexual girls getting fat in everyday life, thank you very much! 

I suppose comics are still so low on the artistic food chain that any creator getting a lot of acclaim starts to let it go to his head too easily - see also Alan Moore, Grant Morrison, Chris Ware, Robert Crumb, Art Spiegelman and Dan Clowes. If they&#039;re not embarassing us with big (but obvious) &#039;statements&#039; they&#039;re either running to Hollywood or indulging messianic delusions. It&#039;s only comics, guys!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to love Love and Rockets &#8211; but sometime around the 90s it started to leave me cold, especially Gilbert&#8217;s stuff. When he started overdoing the anti-imperialist polemic and throwing in serial killers, I think the acclaim was going to his head (is it just me or did his art get a lot uglier as well?). Check out his arrogant interview comments in recent years. The comics lost a lot of the charm and wit that won us over in the first place. I actually preferred it with more punk and SF elements &#8211; I can watch police brutality, racism, poverty, and bisexual girls getting fat in everyday life, thank you very much! </p>
<p>I suppose comics are still so low on the artistic food chain that any creator getting a lot of acclaim starts to let it go to his head too easily &#8211; see also Alan Moore, Grant Morrison, Chris Ware, Robert Crumb, Art Spiegelman and Dan Clowes. If they&#8217;re not embarassing us with big (but obvious) &#8216;statements&#8217; they&#8217;re either running to Hollywood or indulging messianic delusions. It&#8217;s only comics, guys!</p>
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		<title>By: The Dirty Vicar</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dirty Vicar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 12:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if the old Fantagraphics Love &amp; Rockets collections are still in print (they are all titled &quot;Love &amp; Rockets - [Title]&quot;), but I find them a more manageable way of reading L&amp;R stuff than the big volumes that have come out more recently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if the old Fantagraphics Love &amp; Rockets collections are still in print (they are all titled &#8220;Love &amp; Rockets &#8211; [Title]&#8220;), but I find them a more manageable way of reading L&amp;R stuff than the big volumes that have come out more recently.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Skidmore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Skidmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 11:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I largely agree - I haven&#039;t been captivated by their stories in a good while now. I do recommend catching up on the earlier stories - for a start, they are magnificent, very possibly the best comics of the last few decades, but also they might make some of the newer Gilbert stories mean more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I largely agree &#8211; I haven&#8217;t been captivated by their stories in a good while now. I do recommend catching up on the earlier stories &#8211; for a start, they are magnificent, very possibly the best comics of the last few decades, but also they might make some of the newer Gilbert stories mean more.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan M.</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/wedge/2008/05/comics-a-beginners-guide-hernandez-brothers/#comment-427498</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 03:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good write-up, Martin.  I haven&#039;t read the big collections of L&amp;R -- I discovered it about half-way though the first run, so I don&#039;t have the chronological perspective in terms of the decline in Jaime&#039;s work.  I wonder what you think of the current series of L&amp;R comic books?  Personally, I find the artwork of both brothers maintains its high level, but Gilbert&#039;s characters and situations leave me either confused or simply un-engaged (with some exceptions, usually shorter pieces, like the suberb &quot;Julio&#039;s Day&quot; in -- it was either #1 or 2.  To some extent I feel the same about Jaime -- some fantastic individual stories, but the overall arcs have become only sporadically gripping.   For me the brothers&#039; work is ALWAYS worth looking at, but too often not a great READING experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good write-up, Martin.  I haven&#8217;t read the big collections of L&amp;R &#8212; I discovered it about half-way though the first run, so I don&#8217;t have the chronological perspective in terms of the decline in Jaime&#8217;s work.  I wonder what you think of the current series of L&amp;R comic books?  Personally, I find the artwork of both brothers maintains its high level, but Gilbert&#8217;s characters and situations leave me either confused or simply un-engaged (with some exceptions, usually shorter pieces, like the suberb &#8220;Julio&#8217;s Day&#8221; in &#8212; it was either #1 or 2.  To some extent I feel the same about Jaime &#8212; some fantastic individual stories, but the overall arcs have become only sporadically gripping.   For me the brothers&#8217; work is ALWAYS worth looking at, but too often not a great READING experience.</p>
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