Comments on: 13 Worst Films Of 2011: 2: About That Radiohead Embargo https://freakytrigger.co.uk/see/2012/04/13-worst-films-of-2011-2-about-that-radiohead-embargo Lollards in the high church of low culture Wed, 09 May 2012 13:14:02 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: swanstep https://freakytrigger.co.uk/see/2012/04/13-worst-films-of-2011-2-about-that-radiohead-embargo/comment-page-1#comment-1059332 Wed, 09 May 2012 13:14:02 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23401#comment-1059332 @Iain F., 8. Yes, and it’s a great song (when I saw the song listed, I originally thought it was referring to a very Morricone-ish Radiohead fragment from ’90s bootlegs which used to be called ‘Last Flowers to the Hospital’).

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By: Iain F https://freakytrigger.co.uk/see/2012/04/13-worst-films-of-2011-2-about-that-radiohead-embargo/comment-page-1#comment-1059321 Wed, 09 May 2012 11:43:09 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23401#comment-1059321 The proper ’90s Radiohead song in it is actually from 2007! It worked OK for me because I hadn’t heard that specific song before. I loved all of the Boris stuff on the soundtrack which was new to me too.

Also he had another film between Memories of Matsuko and this – Paco and the Magical Book, which is a completely bonkers fairytale thing partly in rubbish CGI and very difficult to track down an English-subtitled version of.

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By: Pete Baran https://freakytrigger.co.uk/see/2012/04/13-worst-films-of-2011-2-about-that-radiohead-embargo/comment-page-1#comment-1057713 Tue, 01 May 2012 11:40:17 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23401#comment-1057713 I think so (though hatred was probably the wrong word, hatred borne of fear is more like it).

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By: mark sinker https://freakytrigger.co.uk/see/2012/04/13-worst-films-of-2011-2-about-that-radiohead-embargo/comment-page-1#comment-1057439 Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:42:20 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23401#comment-1057439 Do Death Note 1&2 belong in this tradition? I watched them one afternoon with Martin S, and didn’t like them much — though he very much seemed to.

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By: Pete https://freakytrigger.co.uk/see/2012/04/13-worst-films-of-2011-2-about-that-radiohead-embargo/comment-page-1#comment-1057434 Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:25:06 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23401#comment-1057434 Having read a couple of glowing reviews of people who loved it, and of course its success in the Japanese academy awards (winning best picture, director and screenplay), there is a good chance it is one of those films that thematically will rub me up the wrong way, compounded by a misuse of his otherwise excellent technique. Others see it as more of a horror film, which is a reading I find rather alien. It certainly fits in the tradition of Japanese films with a hatred of the young, which is theme I have never been able to warm to (satirically treated or not).

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By: Mark M https://freakytrigger.co.uk/see/2012/04/13-worst-films-of-2011-2-about-that-radiohead-embargo/comment-page-1#comment-1057404 Mon, 30 Apr 2012 13:30:35 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23401#comment-1057404 I think Royal Tenenbaums is Wes Anderson’s best film, too – it’s certainly better than (the little-seen) Bottle Rocket, although it would be the classic hipster move to claim otherwise.

From the extremity of Pete’s reaction to Confessions (which I haven’t seen), I suspect the problem can’t just be the play of low/high expectations, powerful as that is.

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By: a tanned rested and unlogged lørd sükråt wötsît https://freakytrigger.co.uk/see/2012/04/13-worst-films-of-2011-2-about-that-radiohead-embargo/comment-page-1#comment-1057337 Mon, 30 Apr 2012 09:38:53 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23401#comment-1057337 i appear to like Wes Anderson’s third and fourth films the actual best — but (a) I’ve never seen his first and am not sure I ever saw his second*, and (b) Royal Tenenbaums is largely centred on someone identical to the very terrible dad of the person I saw it with, so she enjoyed it immeasurably, and on the whole what she likes I like. The Life Aquatic is also pretty much about her family.

*I always thought I did but I now think I’m thinking of Election.

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By: swanstep https://freakytrigger.co.uk/see/2012/04/13-worst-films-of-2011-2-about-that-radiohead-embargo/comment-page-1#comment-1057180 Sun, 29 Apr 2012 22:51:49 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23401#comment-1057180 The trailer is so overwrought (in a vaguely Clockwork Orange-y way) that no one could ever be confident about going to/renting a film on that basis.

I checked and Radiohead wasn’t on *that* many soundtracks in the mid ’90s (here’s the list), and only the *one* song *really* got overplayed (to the point where, as you effectively mention, even Radiohead gave it a rest for about a decade – note that imdb lists only one relatively obscure Radiohead track on the Confessions s/track; do they loop it in the film?). Lots of early Radiohead songs remain in my view among their best, and their exposing/slightly embarrassing qualities are key to their power. Thinking About You was one of Thom Yorke’s first songs, and I kind of wish he’d write with that kind of immediacy again.

@1, Martin. Is the phenomenon you’re describing well captured by the idea of ‘diminishing returns’ on relatively fixed, highly patterned sensibilities (the Wes Anderson case for sure).

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By: Martin https://freakytrigger.co.uk/see/2012/04/13-worst-films-of-2011-2-about-that-radiohead-embargo/comment-page-1#comment-1057085 Sun, 29 Apr 2012 16:12:11 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23401#comment-1057085 There’s a supply and a demand component to that disappointment. If “pleasant surprise has the habit of becoming awestruck respect,” then from the director’s perspective, insouciant creativity has the habit of becoming unchecked confidence, which also leads to film #3, film #4 or so being disappointing. Cf. Wes Anderson. Hell, even P.T. Anderson.

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