Comments on: Fringe Science https://freakytrigger.co.uk/science/2012/08/fringe-science Lollards in the high church of low culture Mon, 03 Sep 2012 19:17:24 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: admin https://freakytrigger.co.uk/science/2012/08/fringe-science/comment-page-1#comment-1074987 Mon, 03 Sep 2012 19:17:24 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23617#comment-1074987 UPDATED WITH EXTRA SCIENCE

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By: Alan not logged in https://freakytrigger.co.uk/science/2012/08/fringe-science/comment-page-1#comment-1074950 Mon, 03 Sep 2012 13:15:00 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23617#comment-1074950 hi dere – i will update this soon

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By: Ed https://freakytrigger.co.uk/science/2012/08/fringe-science/comment-page-1#comment-1074369 Thu, 30 Aug 2012 11:41:18 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23617#comment-1074369 So who are the quotes from, then?

We want answers!

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By: Jack Feerick https://freakytrigger.co.uk/science/2012/08/fringe-science/comment-page-1#comment-1073861 Mon, 27 Aug 2012 03:40:09 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23617#comment-1073861 The secret to successful issue trolling is to pick a single issue and stick with it, BR. I’m afraid that in your eagerness to score points you’ve overplayed your hand. Sad, really.

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By: Be Realistic https://freakytrigger.co.uk/science/2012/08/fringe-science/comment-page-1#comment-1073776 Sun, 26 Aug 2012 13:52:38 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23617#comment-1073776 And re Jack Feerick at 16

so you completely, utterly and 100% agree that it is all right to murder unborn babies? – I’m unsure as should anyone be to a question which is full of grey areas but you seem to know – how’s that?

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By: Be Realistic https://freakytrigger.co.uk/science/2012/08/fringe-science/comment-page-1#comment-1073771 Sun, 26 Aug 2012 13:33:42 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23617#comment-1073771 The fact that people are querying the veracity of the “televisions and bookcases” quote does nothing more than draw attention to the irredeemably middle class worldview of the dissenter.

Writing as someone from a working-class background who lived in that world until he was over 30 and most importantly has a job which takes me into many working-class homes it strikes me as only slightly untrue in that it posits an idea that working-class homes even own a bookcase of any size.

Only someone with an idea of the working-class about as deluded as the average Guardian reader would beg to differ.

Very few such homes will have a bookcase and this includes the upper working (what used to be known as the “respectable”)working class not just the unskilled lower and underclass.

And “defences” of the working-class which include phrases such as “kicking them when they’re down” just reek of paternalism – like the lower classes want to have bookcases, and to not have books in their house means their lives are automatically lesser ones that require pity.

What a bunch of bloody snobs…

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By: Andrew Farrell https://freakytrigger.co.uk/science/2012/08/fringe-science/comment-page-1#comment-1073744 Sun, 26 Aug 2012 08:31:26 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23617#comment-1073744 I suspect science might be occurring here, but will wait until the poll has finished.

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By: Ed https://freakytrigger.co.uk/science/2012/08/fringe-science/comment-page-1#comment-1073573 Sat, 25 Aug 2012 01:20:18 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23617#comment-1073573 There are a few too many boolean structural elements in that Comp Sci paper for me – although you have to love any report that includes the sentence “Let SN be an open set of sexually explicit nouns” – but the point seems to be that the computer gets it right only 71 per cent of the time when choosing to respond “That’s what she said!” to ostensibly innocuous remarks.

The robots may have got us beaten when it comes to playing chess, making cars or exploring Mars, but for adolescent humour humanity still reigns supreme.

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By: Jack Feerick https://freakytrigger.co.uk/science/2012/08/fringe-science/comment-page-1#comment-1073438 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 03:21:37 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23617#comment-1073438 @6: That’s the purest form of Observational Humor, a.k.a. “It’s funny because it’s true.” When in fact the truth of an observation is no guarantee of its intrinsic humor — which is why, say, nobody opens up the CIA WORLD FACT BOOK when they’re looking for a laff riot.

Another joke with the same format is the late George Carlin’s observation that (from memory) “Most of the people who are in favor of banning abortion are people you wouldn’t want to have sex with in the first place.” Which is funnier than the supermarket thing, but just barely.

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By: Ed https://freakytrigger.co.uk/science/2012/08/fringe-science/comment-page-1#comment-1073433 Thu, 23 Aug 2012 23:44:11 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23617#comment-1073433 @11 That one’s actually pretty funny.

“Parking facilities in central London are both limited and expensive, but that doesn’t matter because most people use the pricey but reasonably reliable public transport system, including a reasonably comprehensive Night Bus service that runs after the Tube shuts down at about 12.30.”

Perhaps that joke was written by an earlier discarded prototype for this: http://www.aclweb.org/anthology-new/P/P11/P11-2016.pdf

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By: Tommy Mack https://freakytrigger.co.uk/science/2012/08/fringe-science/comment-page-1#comment-1073388 Thu, 23 Aug 2012 17:06:07 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23617#comment-1073388 Steve @ 9: In a way that makes it worse: easier to laugh at, less offensive, but more insidious. It a depressingly post-Thatcher idea that if you’re working class it’s because you’re too thick or lazy to make any more of yourself. Hardly ‘libraries gave us power’ is it? Also, I’m pretty sure it’s ripped off Kevin Bridges’ “You know you’re working class if your telly’s bigger than your house” which at least has a dash of absurdism about it.

Mind you, I’m wary that removing jokes from the context of the show and the comedian’s delivery can often change their meaning. As can misquoting, of which comics frequently complain. If I were a journo, I’d just say I was too busy laughing to get the quote down – flatter the buggers!

Right, I’m off to see the inoffensive and unprejudiced Frankie Boyle…

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By: Matthew Balaam https://freakytrigger.co.uk/science/2012/08/fringe-science/comment-page-1#comment-1073369 Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:17:11 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23617#comment-1073369 Ah, wait a minute…

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By: Matthew Balaam https://freakytrigger.co.uk/science/2012/08/fringe-science/comment-page-1#comment-1073368 Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:13:05 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23617#comment-1073368 That Manhattan one: I’m hoping I’m too dense to get it, otherwise I dispair at the quality of comedy at this years fringe.

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By: wichita lineman https://freakytrigger.co.uk/science/2012/08/fringe-science/comment-page-1#comment-1073356 Thu, 23 Aug 2012 13:38:09 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23617#comment-1073356 “There are no launderettes in Malmo but that doesn’t matter because people there who live in apartment blocks have shared washing machines in the basement.” Hilar!

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By: The Clapton Pond Regeneration Project https://freakytrigger.co.uk/science/2012/08/fringe-science/comment-page-1#comment-1073355 Thu, 23 Aug 2012 13:34:25 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23617#comment-1073355 “You know who really gives kids a bad name? The late Paula Yates” is funnier

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By: Steve Mannion https://freakytrigger.co.uk/science/2012/08/fringe-science/comment-page-1#comment-1073347 Thu, 23 Aug 2012 12:34:48 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23617#comment-1073347 My guess is the working class one only made it in because its author identifies as such.

Indeed Rob Beckett’s bio on Chortle confirms as much. “…has unashamedly working-class roots and bases his set around family and the class system.”

If e.g. Jimmy Carr had done it it wouldn’t be on the list.

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By: Tommy Mack https://freakytrigger.co.uk/science/2012/08/fringe-science/comment-page-1#comment-1073322 Thu, 23 Aug 2012 09:23:52 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23617#comment-1073322 Ed @ 6, I think it’s a reference to SATC/Friends-type TV shows. No, I didn’t find it very funny either.

The one about being working class is typical of the sneery, Kevin Bridges kick-em-when-they’re-down school of comedy. Absolutely abysmal.

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By: Alan not logged in https://freakytrigger.co.uk/science/2012/08/fringe-science/comment-page-1#comment-1073311 Thu, 23 Aug 2012 08:19:30 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23617#comment-1073311 It is too early for such theorising – at this early stage of gathering observation I will only report that (at this time) 4 out of 40 people responded ‘yes’ to it

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By: Ed https://freakytrigger.co.uk/science/2012/08/fringe-science/comment-page-1#comment-1073240 Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:51:45 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23617#comment-1073240 Not challenging the question, but one of the jokes.

Why might the one about Manhattan be funny?

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By: admin https://freakytrigger.co.uk/science/2012/08/fringe-science/comment-page-1#comment-1073058 Tue, 21 Aug 2012 14:56:49 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23617#comment-1073058 FIXED

(that illuminated a very fishy hacking thing going on in the WP backend)

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By: admin https://freakytrigger.co.uk/science/2012/08/fringe-science/comment-page-1#comment-1073055 Tue, 21 Aug 2012 14:48:34 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23617#comment-1073055 :-( er. normal service will be restored shortly…

(DAMN)

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By: Steve Mannion https://freakytrigger.co.uk/science/2012/08/fringe-science/comment-page-1#comment-1073049 Tue, 21 Aug 2012 14:01:18 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23617#comment-1073049 Nice use of exclaimation mark on the ‘None of them’ option although I think it could’ve done with a few extra on the end and all being in uppercase for people to REALLY blow our minds.

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By: Tommy Mack https://freakytrigger.co.uk/science/2012/08/fringe-science/comment-page-1#comment-1073030 Tue, 21 Aug 2012 12:37:23 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23617#comment-1073030 Yep, I’m a fatal error too. Using firefox. Dunno if that could be the prob.

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By: a tanned rested and unlogged lørd sükråt wötsît https://freakytrigger.co.uk/science/2012/08/fringe-science/comment-page-1#comment-1073025 Tue, 21 Aug 2012 11:58:40 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23617#comment-1073025 Not art or science BUT SPORT

ps I am getting “fatal error” when I submit my votes. Doubtless true in a “get a life” kind of a way but is something coded wrong?

and i quote:

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Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required ‘../../../wp-config.php’ (include_path=’.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear’) in /opt/bitnami/wordpress/wp-content/plugins/wp-polls/wp-polls.php on line 33

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