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27 July 2010

Popular ’88

WELL DONE EVERYONE! We’ve made it through 1988. But the 80s still have more to throw at us. Let’s regroup and take stock of the year – use the poll to indicate which tracks YOU would have given 6 or more out of 10 to.

And use the comments to discuss the year in general – which, as has often been mentioned in the regular comments boxes, was actually pretty damn good.

Which of these Number One Singles of 1988 Would You Have Given 6 Or More To?

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  1. Billy Smart on 28 July 2010 #

    B-side of ‘We Are The Pigs’!

    Post-Butler Suede still occasionally managed some fantastic B-sides; Europe is our Playground, Every Monday Morning Comes, Jumble Sale Mums – and, especially, Popstar, which I always think of as a drugged-up Brett having an out-of-body experience and watching himself.

  2. swanstep on 28 July 2010 #

    Another overlooked song from 1988: the La’s There she goes. I didn’t hear it until 1990 IIRC. Did anyone here catch it on first release (it isn’t on any of the lists above)? And is this really a 1988 vid.? If it is, did anyone see it at the time?

    #48-#51. Too bad Suede won’t be troubling Popular directly, eh?

  3. flahr on 28 July 2010 #

    #52: I suspect most people didn’t hear it till the album in ’90; it didn’t get anywhere above Number 80 until 1989 and it only reached the Top 40 (peaking at 13) in 1990 after the album.
    Thankfully it’s on a couple of ‘best songs of 1988′ lists compiled in hindsight.

  4. Billy Smart on 28 July 2010 #

    I bought ‘There She Goes’ in November 1988! Its got one very good doomy B-side called ‘Who Knows?’, that never seems to get included on super-deluxe reissues of the album. It hung around the lower reaches of the charts for months and months, and when it eventually became a hit two years later its reappearance was greeted with bemused surprise from those who remembered it from the first time around. I certainly don’t remember it having that video, though, more a blurry 16mm thing shot in Liverpool backstreets.

    I also saw The La’s, third on the bill in an NME-sponsered CND benefit at the Town & Country Club in March 1989, the first ever concert that I paid to see. The Darling Buds headlined, and Sandie Shaw and Bradford also played.

  5. will on 28 July 2010 #

    I remember hearing There She Goes on a Radio One session (Janice Long?) in May ’88. Loved it then, but for me it’s one of those records that down the years has lost its lustre through overexposure..

  6. punctum on 28 July 2010 #

    Never liked the song or the group much. Sounded purposely retro at a time when we were trying to get on with the future. Does he really sing “Jason Donovan”?

  7. Conrad on 28 July 2010 #

    A magnificent 2 out of 19. S-Express and Belinda Carlisle.

    So, the House of Love. They saeem to be top of every magazine/inkie list for 1988. I don’t I’ve ever heard “Destroy the Heart”. I know very little about them.

    were they any good?
    do people, i.e. the popular comments crew, still listen to them?

  8. Billy Smart on 28 July 2010 #

    Now you’re talking – I LOVED The House of Love when I was sixteen and seventeen. That first album is like a classic rock primer for a 1988 indie kid – This is what you can do as a four-piece guitar band. There has never been an album that I have more anticipated in my life than that one with the butterfly on the cover, my appetite especially whetted by the EP of I Don’t Know Why I Love You with its surprisingly direct B-Sides, Clothes and Secrets, brooding and remorseful.

    I still listen to them with pleasure and excitement, but the weak link is much more apparent to me as a middle aged man than as a teenager. Guy Chadwick’s lyrics set himself up as some kind of prophet or seer, but generally lack any real depth or sense of personal engagement. Its a small lexicon of profound imagery – fire, heart, love, Jesus – shuffled around in every song. Combine that with Chadwick’s obvious discomfort at being a frontman (and advanced age) and you can see why they were superseded by the Roses and the Mondays before they ever really got going as a leading act.

    I always remember an Adam Sweeting review of a HoL concert at the Albert Hall that I attended, describing Guy Chadwick as having the volcanic stage presence of “a mild-mannered matchstick”

  9. Billy Smart on 28 July 2010 #

    Destroy The Heart also topped the NME Readers Poll for 1988, wheras MM readers voted for Tower of Strength by The Mission. I’ll look up the full results in my old copies when I’m next at my parents’ house.

  10. flahr on 28 July 2010 #

    Dear me but “Tower of Strength” is so U2 it hurts.

  11. Rory on 28 July 2010 #

    @58, amen. Their 2004 comeback album didn’t set me on fire, but Jesus, I sure did love the Fontana/butterfly album with all my heart. One of my early ’90s favourites, and it’s lasted well for me.

    (All this talk of Suede and House of Love and shoegazing only reminds me how utterly my tastes diverge from the UK number ones from here until about 1995. Mustn’t say more, or the Jive Bunny will be angry.)

  12. Mark M on 28 July 2010 #

    House of Love? Terrible band – sub-U2 nonsense. Saw them supporting the Primitives at the Marquee in ’86 and decided I wanted them to do well because I’d ‘discovered’ them. Quite liked the original version of Shine On. Liked every subsequent single much, much less, until I spent several weeks puzzling over the first album before I realised the reason I was struggling with it was that it was no cop at all: stiff, pompous, fun-free.
    Chadwick is a godawful singer and – as already noted – an absolutely shocking lyricist. Great comedy character, though – his embrace of E-culture is the high point of any account of Creation records.

  13. will on 28 July 2010 #

    I loved the first album, wasn’t really keen on anything post-Terry Bickers. They seemed a very ordinary band after he left.

  14. swanstep on 29 July 2010 #

    Semi-funny note about Suede’s boffo first single: I misheard The Drowners chorus’s ‘taking me over’ as ‘taking the anchor’. It made sense… drowning, boats, anchors, but it also supported smutty hypotheses about what sex act might be being alluded to. I was quite disappointed when I learned the real lyric just a few years ago.

    @BillySmart, 54. Well done on your early La’s-spotting.

  15. swanstep on 29 July 2010 #
  16. byebyepride on 29 July 2010 #

    @45, @46, @47

    re: Rock and Roll Friend. My memory is that this was just a matter of timing – the song was written after the album had been recorded, so was only available as a B-side. But I remember the sleeve notes for the beggars banquet best-of making a bit of a thing about how many great songs they’d ‘thrown away’ (perhaps we could say given away?) as B-sides so they may have been happy to build the legend up.

  17. byebyepride on 29 July 2010 #

    @57 re: The House of Love. I still listen to them, albeit partly for the memories, as I must know every note of the first album, and lots of the rest. I remember being very disappointed by the butterfly album / Fontana – on the grounds that I’d heard much of it before (peel sessions, blind from the cassette version of the first album) and that even I could see that the Beatles and the Stones was total drivel. The album Babe Rainbow a late high point, IMHO.

  18. Billy Smart on 29 July 2010 #

    Two amusing Stuart Maconie observations about ‘The Beatles & The Stones’;

    ‘”The Beatles and The Stones/ sucked the marrow out of bones” – Sadly no photographic evidence has yet been found to support this assertion.’

    ‘”The Beatles and The Stones/ Put the V in Vietnam” – So what was it called before 1962? Ietnam?’

  19. Billy Smart on 29 July 2010 #

    Re 64: God, I was disappointed when I read the lyric sheet for the first Suede album and discovered that the chorus of Metal Mickey was “She sells heart! She sells meat!”. My own version “She’s so hard! She’s so fleet!” fitted Suede’s perceived hallmark ambiguous romanticism much better.

  20. thefatgit on 29 July 2010 #

    I think HoL’s glorious moment in the sun was more to do with Alan McGee and his hyperbole rather than any lasting talent. Although “Destroy The Heart” does have a soupcon of jangly charm.

  21. Billy Smart on 29 July 2010 #

    The thing about ‘Destroy The Heart’ at the time though, was that it sounded Sturm und Drang dynamic, rather than Soup Dragons weedy-jangly. It was often played along with ‘You Made Me Realise’ and ‘Gigantic’ on the 1988 Billy turntable and didn’t sound out of place next to those singles.

  22. Rory on 29 July 2010 #

    @62, fair enough that you don’t like HoL, I know many don’t, but in what way are they “sub-U2″? They sound nothing like U2 to me: Chadwick was nothing like Bono as a singer, they never aspired to stadium-filling rock, they didn’t do sub-ambient, roots rock or pomo reinvention… apart from both being guitar rock of some kind, I can’t see it.

  23. I have a bunch of early HoL stuff on vinyl, sent to me for free and unrequested, so assiduous was Mr McGhee about getting easily swayed critics onside. I don’t think I played any of them more than a couple of times ; maybe I should sell them and make lots* of unearned money.

    *Yes I know.

  24. punctum on 29 July 2010 #

    HoL – absolutely tremendous live*, always rather disappointing on record, due I think to undernourished production.

    *I once went to see them do three London gigs in one night – 1990 or possibly 1991 – at UCL, the Town & Country Club (I think; it could have been the Camden Underworld) and finally the Dome in Tufnell Park. Entirely different set lists for each gig and they were splendid.

  25. Stevie on 29 July 2010 #

    The HoL Peel session with ‘Love in a Car’ soundtracked my A-level revision so their corny majesty will always have a place in my heart. Saw their reunion gig a couple of years ago and Mad Terry B was still great. Funny how everyone expected them to be huge around the end of 88, they appeared on the end of year South Bank Show special and I remember Bill Drummond writing an article in Blitz magazine saying they would be the next Pink Floyd or something. Also predicting that a shapeshifting S-Express would set the agenda for the next 5 years of UK pop.

    By 88 I had finally kicked the NME habit and taken up full time with MM – not because I liked the Young Gods or whatever, but just because Reynolds, Stubbs, Wilde, Roberts etc were so clearly leagues better writers, whatever they were getting worked up about, than Maconie etc. The terrible fall off in the second half of the year must have contributed to me finally packing in my Smash Hits subscription in favour of the Face/Blitz/i-D etc.

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