Comments on: JOHNNY KIDD AND THE PIRATES - “Shaking All Over” http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/ Lollards in the high church of low culture Sun, 23 Nov 2008 12:54:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: mike http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-475276 mike Fri, 08 Aug 2008 23:27:40 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-475276 It's the story that MUST be read: http://www.joemoretti.org/page8.htm It’s the story that MUST be read: http://www.joemoretti.org/page8.htm

]]> By: Joe Moretti the original http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-475174 Joe Moretti the original Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:18:18 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-475174 Hullo folks from Joe Moretti, just a little note to say I'm still alive and kicking. It's really very humbling to know that so many people dig "Shakin". At my site you'll find an article I've written about JK. All very tongue in cheek, juut poking fun at the business. Honestly, at the time of recording and even after release I had no idea it was going to be a hit. I still don't understand it. It was really just a hell of a lot of fun, we played like that all the time. Go well......Joe Moretti. Hullo folks from Joe Moretti, just a little note to say I’m still alive and kicking. It’s really very humbling to know that so many people dig “Shakin”. At my site you’ll find an article I’ve written about JK. All very tongue in cheek, juut poking fun at the business. Honestly, at the time of recording and even after release I had no idea it was going to be a hit. I still don’t understand it. It was really just a hell of a lot of fun, we played like that all the time. Go well……Joe Moretti.

]]> By: Lena http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-428409 Lena Mon, 26 May 2008 11:10:31 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-428409 I wasn't talking about this song in particular but the Canadian 60s cover version of it ('64-'65) - as garage rock. I wasn’t talking about this song in particular but the Canadian 60s cover version of it (’64-’65) - as garage rock.

]]> By: rosie http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-428388 rosie Mon, 26 May 2008 10:33:54 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-428388 This is another one that (hardly surprisingly given that I'd just turned five when it got to number one) I've never not known and so I can't say anything about how I reacted to hearing it for the first time. But looking back and guessing, it feels like one of the great epiphanies of popular music - something totally unlike anything that had gone before; a bit strange, a bit shivery up the backbone, a lot new and exciting. Surely a 9, possibly even a 10. Calling it 'garage rock' seems entirely anachronistic, like calling <em>Measure for Measure</em> 'Ortonesque'. It's superior pop, no more, no less, and it anticipates the bluesier British inflections of rock 'n' roll top come. This is another one that (hardly surprisingly given that I’d just turned five when it got to number one) I’ve never not known and so I can’t say anything about how I reacted to hearing it for the first time. But looking back and guessing, it feels like one of the great epiphanies of popular music - something totally unlike anything that had gone before; a bit strange, a bit shivery up the backbone, a lot new and exciting. Surely a 9, possibly even a 10.

Calling it ‘garage rock’ seems entirely anachronistic, like calling Measure for Measure ‘Ortonesque’. It’s superior pop, no more, no less, and it anticipates the bluesier British inflections of rock ‘n’ roll top come.

]]> By: Brandy http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-342614 Brandy Mon, 26 Nov 2007 05:12:41 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-342614 Thanks Adrian!! Thanks Adrian!!

]]> By: Adrian http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-321514 Adrian Fri, 05 Oct 2007 09:53:27 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-321514 Hi Brandy. The group is "Johnny Kidd and the Pirates", a google will find bits littered all over the place - some of it borrowed from my own site on them (a work in progress). Click here - http://www.johnnykidd.co.uk - to get to it, including history, a Timeline, all songs recorded for EMI plus lyrics, related artists, etc. Various CDs and original LPs and 45's turn up regularly on Ebay, even the odd sheet music as well. One of the major line-ups still exitst today part time as The Pirates featuring the awesome guitar and bass of Mick Green and Johnny Spence (who also does the vocals). Their site is also linked, catch them live if you can - it'll be well worth it! Cheers ADRIAN Hi Brandy.
The group is “Johnny Kidd and the Pirates”, a google will find bits littered all over the place - some of it borrowed from my own site on them (a work in progress). Click here - http://www.johnnykidd.co.uk - to get to it, including history, a Timeline, all songs recorded for EMI plus lyrics, related artists, etc. Various CDs and original LPs and 45’s turn up regularly on Ebay, even the odd sheet music as well.

One of the major line-ups still exitst today part time as The Pirates featuring the awesome guitar and bass of Mick Green and Johnny Spence (who also does the vocals). Their site is also linked, catch them live if you can - it’ll be well worth it!

Cheers
ADRIAN

]]> By: Brandy http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-317734 Brandy Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:04:49 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-317734 This group, "Shaing All over" is awesome. I just discovered them, and I was very curious about them. So, I googled them- and much to my disbelief, could find next to nothing about them! What year did they begin? Are they still around? Just things like that. I saw that www.amazon.com had been selling a cd by them, but other then that, I could find nothing. Not even lyrics to their songs! Can anyone help me? Thanks, Brandy This group, “Shaing All over” is awesome.
I just discovered them, and I was very curious about them. So, I googled them- and much to my disbelief, could find next to nothing about them!
What year did they begin? Are they still around? Just things like that.
I saw that http://www.amazon.com had been selling a cd by them, but other then that, I could find nothing.
Not even lyrics to their songs!

Can anyone help me?
Thanks,
Brandy

]]> By: Adrian http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-312701 Adrian Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:38:18 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-312701 That the drum solo is a piece of extending filler was stated in the Kidd "Jukebox Heroes" series episode - I didn't remember hearing it before then and as it only added around three seconds seemed a strange way of filling. It actually works though, as a juxtaposition between the empassioned delivery of "Shakin' All Over" and Joe Moretti's classic guitar solo rather than one leading straight into the other. Another way of extending the song would have been to repeat the riff twice as if going for a third verse, then beating the drum solo as the last note died away, then the solo itself. The Swinging Blue Jeans faster and more energetic rendition uses a vaguely similar method which on its own adds around 9 seconds - Had Kidd and co attempted this, adding Clems drum solo on the end would have added around 10 seconds. But who cares with a one-take piece of magic that the Pirates were actually a little embarrassed about at the time, and thought was only destined for a flipside? That the drum solo is a piece of extending filler was stated in the Kidd “Jukebox Heroes” series episode - I didn’t remember hearing it before then and as it only added around three seconds seemed a strange way of filling. It actually works though, as a juxtaposition between the empassioned delivery of “Shakin’ All Over” and Joe Moretti’s classic guitar solo rather than one leading straight into the other.

Another way of extending the song would have been to repeat the riff twice as if going for a third verse, then beating the drum solo as the last note died away, then the solo itself. The Swinging Blue Jeans faster and more energetic rendition uses a vaguely similar method which on its own adds around 9 seconds - Had Kidd and co attempted this, adding Clems drum solo on the end would have added around 10 seconds. But who cares with a one-take piece of magic that the Pirates were actually a little embarrassed about at the time, and thought was only destined for a flipside?

]]> By: Phil http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-278125 Phil Sat, 02 Jun 2007 20:24:33 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-278125 I beleive the drum intro to the solo was added as a filler because the track was too short. Has anyone else noticed that Adam Faith's "Made You" which was in the charts at the same time as "Shaking" has a very similar guitar figure? I saw Kidd twice. In one show he was wearing a white silk blouson and at the solo the spotlight focussed on him alone and he slowly started to shake until he was "shaking all over". A standout moment in a standout number. I beleive the drum intro to the solo was added as a filler because the track was too short. Has anyone else noticed that Adam Faith’s “Made You” which was in the charts at the same time as “Shaking” has a very similar guitar figure? I saw Kidd twice. In one show he was wearing a white silk blouson and at the solo the spotlight focussed on him alone and he slowly started to shake until he was “shaking all over”. A standout moment in a standout number.

]]> By: Waldo http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-260037 Waldo Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:54:10 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-260037 A truly great record and so far ahead of its time, it beggars belief. The middle-bit is magnificent. A truly great record and so far ahead of its time, it beggars belief. The middle-bit is magnificent.

]]> By: Adrian http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-220272 Adrian Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:33:18 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-220272 You Tube has a home-made video to the song, get it for free that way.... no JK in person though as no footage is known to suvive. Otherwise, the original single and re-issues turns up on eBay from time to time. You can also get it on new-ish CD's fromm the same place. Try Woolworths site to hear previews, and buy the track alone for 79p! http://www.woolworths.co.uk/ww_p2/product/index.jhtml?pid=50099116 You Tube has a home-made video to the song, get it for free that way…. no JK in person though as no footage is known to suvive.

Otherwise, the original single and re-issues turns up on eBay from time to time. You can also get it on new-ish CD’s fromm the same place.

Try Woolworths site to hear previews, and buy the track alone for 79p!
http://www.woolworths.co.uk/ww_p2/product/index.jhtml?pid=50099116

]]> By: van isacker francis http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-117870 van isacker francis Sat, 09 Dec 2006 18:57:26 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-117870 From Belgium Where and how can I get this "" very original "" Shaking all over from Johnny Kidd & the Pirates Wish to down load it as I believe it was at this periode a real cracker......at that time I was 13 years old ! Thanks to the .....helper !! Francis From Belgium

Where and how can I get this “” very original “” Shaking all over from Johnny Kidd & the Pirates

Wish to down load it as I believe it was at this periode a real cracker……at that time I was 13 years old !
Thanks to the …..helper !!
Francis

]]> By: Adrian http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-46300 Adrian Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:20:28 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-46300 Hi Tom. I wish I'd never looked into it now.... "Shakin" only went to the top in one of the four(?) charts around at that time, in the "Record Retailer" chart (as used by Guinness) as it was regarded to be the most reliable industry-standard chart at the time and lasted through the sixties. (I sometimes think that certain records which maybve only scraped into the top ten were better than the then-current number one.) In reverse, the Beatle's "Please Please Me" I believe went to the top in all charts, except "Record Retailer", so number 2 it officially is! Hi Tom. I wish I’d never looked into it now…. “Shakin” only went to the top in one of the four(?) charts around at that time, in the “Record Retailer” chart (as used by Guinness) as it was regarded to be the most reliable industry-standard chart at the time and lasted through the sixties. (I sometimes think that certain records which maybve only scraped into the top ten were better than the then-current number one.) In reverse, the Beatle’s “Please Please Me” I believe went to the top in all charts, except “Record Retailer”, so number 2 it officially is!

]]> By: Tom http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-45555 Tom Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:20:54 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-45555 Thanks for commenting Adrian. I'm not disputing that "Move It" is the first British rock record - but it didn't get to #1, so I'd put "Shakin All Over" as the first British rock #1, perhaps! Thanks for commenting Adrian. I’m not disputing that “Move It” is the first British rock record - but it didn’t get to #1, so I’d put “Shakin All Over” as the first British rock #1, perhaps!

]]> By: Adrian http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-45550 Adrian Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:37:34 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-45550 I run the Johnny Kidd website and though I agree it is a standout track for the time - written with the freedom of knowledge that it was for the B-side of the disc - even I believe that Sir Cliff Richard's "Move It" remains the first true British Rock piece. And like "Shakin" even that was going to be the flip - there's a story there somewhere....! I run the Johnny Kidd website and though I agree it is a standout track for the time - written with the freedom of knowledge that it was for the B-side of the disc - even I believe that Sir Cliff Richard’s “Move It” remains the first true British Rock piece. And like “Shakin” even that was going to be the flip - there’s a story there somewhere….!

]]> By: intothefireuk http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-43493 intothefireuk Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:22:22 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-43493 Agree - this stands out from everything around it as completely different and new. The guitars are deliberately turned up and for the first time you can hear the beginnings of distortion on a number one single. It has a vibrancy that has been severely lacking up till now on previous so-called rock & roll singles. The first true UK rock tune IMHO. Agree - this stands out from everything around it as completely different and new. The guitars are deliberately turned up and for the first time you can hear the beginnings of distortion on a number one single. It has a vibrancy that has been severely lacking up till now on previous so-called rock & roll singles. The first true UK rock tune IMHO.

]]> By: Lena http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-18284 Lena Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:43:00 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-18284 I've never heard this, but I have heard the cover by Chad Allen & The Expressions (I think that was their name) who later became The Guess Who. Very good garage rock! I’ve never heard this, but I have heard the cover by Chad Allen & The Expressions (I think that was their name) who later became The Guess Who. Very good garage rock!

]]> By: Joe Williams http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-18283 Joe Williams Mon, 29 Aug 2005 22:01:00 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/popular/2004/06/johnny-kidd-and-the-pirates-shaking-all-over/#comment-18283 Brilliant record. I'd be tempted to give this 10/10 myself. Many years ago I recorded a cover version of this. It wasn't very good. Brilliant record. I’d be tempted to give this 10/10 myself. Many years ago I recorded a cover version of this. It wasn’t very good.

]]>