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RONNIE HILTON – “No Other Love”

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#46, 4th May 1956

My MP3 copy of this is all glitched up, but this is a bit of a trial to listen to in any case. Journeyman Brit crooner Hilton brings little in terms of character to this ballad, so the arranger tries to add a smidgen of interest via drum crashes and sudden orchestral surges. All that happens is that Hilton?s calm romantic seas become choppy and the listener feels a little sick.

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  1. 1
    pilots@pilots.ee on 10 Feb 2008 #

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    rosie on 23 Jul 2008 #

    I’ve spent ages, well, probably about three minutes every time this has come up in the random mix over the last few years, wondering why this is so familar. Only now has the penny dropped – the tune is a piece of incidental music by Richard Rogers from a Patriotic American Movie about the war in the Pacific called Victory at Sea. It turns up from time to time in orchestral concert progammes, including the Proms in the past.

    So, I don’t know if Tom knew this at the time, or if he will admit now to not knowing it at the time, but if he didn’t, all his pelagic metaphors in the comment are pretty spot-on!

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    Billy Smart on 23 Mar 2009 #

    Light entertainment watch: Ronnie Hilton was a familiar face on British television in the 1960s. All of these appearances are now missing;

    BIG NIGHT OUT: with Mike and Bernie Winters (Hosts), Lionel Blair and his Dancers, Frank Berry, Freddie and the Dreamers, Ronnie Hilton, Adrienne Poster (1965)

    DEE TIME: with Paul Jones, Ronnie Hilton, The Kinks (1967)

    THE DES O’CONNOR SHOW: with Ronnie Carroll, Ronnie Hilton, Freddie
    Davies, Jack Douglas (1966)

    NORTHERN SHOWGROUND: with The Beverley Sisters, The George Mitchell Singers, The Ace High Steppers, Albert and Les Ward, Corinne Grey, Sara Luzita, Jack Watson, Joe Lynch, Ronnie Hilton, Jimmy James And Company (1956)

    SCOTCH CORNER: with Andy Stewart, Ronnie Hilton (1973)

    SHOWTIME: with David Nixon, Stanley Unwin, Ronnie Hilton, Imogene Coca (1959)

    SIX-FIVE SPECIAL: with Tony Crombie and his Rockers, Dickie Bennett, Ronnie Hilton, Leonora Mila, Graham Stuart and his Jazz Band, Jackie Collins (1957)

    STARS ON SUNDAY: with James Mason, Harry Secombe, Noel Harrison, Ronnie Hilton, Sheila Southern, David Watson (1971)

    STARS ON SUNDAY: with Keith Michell, David Hughes, Ronnie Hilton, David Watson, Gracie Fields, The Madrigals (1971)

    SUMMER SERENADE: with Stanley Black, Ronnie Hilton, Peter Darrell, Hermione Harvey, Frances Pidgeon (1956)

    SUNDAY NIGHT AT THE LONDON PALLADIUM (VAL PARNELL’S …..): with Bruce Forsyth, The Daily Mirror Disc Festival, Winifred Atwell, Eddie Calvert, Alma Cogan, Lonnie Donegan With His Skiffle Group, Ted Heath, Ronnie Hilton, Ruby Murray, Anne Shelton (1956)

    THANK YOUR LUCKY STARS: with Ronnie Hilton, Johnny Kidd and the Pirates, George Chisholm and the Tradsters, Cleo Laine, Audrey Jeans, The Bird Twins, The Springfields (1961)

    THANK YOUR LUCKY STARS: with The Temperance Seven, Ronnie Hilton, Danny Williams, Michael Hill, Chas McDevitt & Shirley Douglas, The Vernons Girls, The Springfields, Jimmy Young (1961)

    THANK YOUR LUCKY STARS: with The King Brothers, Billy Fury, Ronnie Hilton, David Ede, Tony Osbourne, Bobby Shafto, Marie McCann, Bobby Rydell, Ted King (1962)

    THANK YOUR LUCKY STARS: with Brian Matthew, Billy Fury, The Springfields, Jet Harris & Tony Meehan, Ronnie Hilton, Maureen Evans, Back O’Town Syncopators, Bobby Vee, Sam Costa (1963)

    THANK YOUR LUCKY STARS: with Brian Matthew, Jet Harris & Tony Meehan, Ronnie Hilton, Jimmy Justice, The Overlanders, Johnny Sandon and the Redcaps, Little Peggy March, Carol Deene (1963)

    THANK YOUR LUCKY STARS: with Brian Matthew, The Dave Clark Five, Kathy Kirby, Brian Poole and the Tremeloes, The Hollies, Ronnie Hilton (1964)

    Just a couple of performances survive;

    BIG NIGHT OUT: with Mike and Bernie Winters (Hosts), Lionel Blair and his Dancers, Ted Ray, The Kaye Sisters, Dennis Spicer, Ronnie Hilton (1963)

    THE DAVID NIXON SHOW: with Freddie Davies, Cleo Laine, Ronnie Hilton, Benny Yorke, Penny Meredith (1972)

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    Anthony Henning on 29 Mar 2009 #

    Perry Como originally recorded the original version of No Other Love and personally, having heard his and Ronnie Hilton’s version, I’d take Ronnie’s any day. Perry Como (as was his style, one must admit) sounds entirely too relaxed in his version.

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    wichita lineman on 18 Jul 2009 #

    The flip is a duet with Alma Cogan, giving her a second number one by default. A lot more fun than the top side (“Wot did i do wrong?” asks Alma in her finest cocker-nee), It’s All Been Done Before is quite sassy, straight out of a musical I’d guess though there isn’t one credited on the label.

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    Eli on 21 Jan 2011 #

    Ooh, Popular is biting indeed about this record. I have to confess I think it fully deserved it’s six weeks at #1 in the UK: the production and arrangement are first class, even if it is nicked wholesale from the Perry Como version (I was amazed how identical it is). But agree with Anthony: this is not a song you can sound relaxed on! In the right moment, it’s a wonderful record…

    @wichita – that’s long been a favourite of mine. It ought to be better known. You’d think it was from a musical or revue, but as far as I can tell, it was a contemporary number by Pee Wee Hunt.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFw3hrnKlfc

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    Mark G on 21 Jan 2011 #

    Pee Wee Hunt, now there’s an artist name that wouldn’t be happening thesedays. Charlie Kunz had it easy…

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    Jimmy the Swede on 22 Jan 2011 #

    John Steed once regaled Mrs Peel with a story of a drinking contest back in his days in the RAF: “The finalists were Bussy Carr and Pee Wee Hunt…”

    Ronnie Hilton? Mice and windwills, boys and girls. Mice and windmills!

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    Erithian on 23 Jan 2011 #

    A section of Ronnie Hilton’s discography of which you might want to be aware, Jimmy:
    1964: Leeds United Calypso b/w Elland Road Baht ‘At
    1970: Glory Glory Leeds United b/w We Shall Not Be Moved
    1971 (EP): The Lads of Leeds / The Ballad of Billy Bremner / The Tale of Johnny Giles
    There’s a pattern there, I’m not quite sure what it is… (although the song “Leeds United” sung by the 1972 Cup Final squad, which reached number 10 while “Metal Guru” was number one, was by Les Reed)

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    wichita lineman on 23 Jan 2011 #

    “A little mouse with claws on”. It took me years to work that line out. “B-b-but of course it had claws on…”

    The second chart-topper from Hull, even though he always seemed keen to pretend was from Leeds.

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    Jimmy the Swede on 23 Jan 2011 #

    Erithian – I would loved to have seen Hilton’s face when Gary Sprake let dear old Peter Houseman’s feeble shot slip underneath him in the 1970 Cup Final.

    Ah, Gary Sprake! You could have devoted an entire “bloopers” show to that magnificent keeper!

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    Mark G on 24 Jan 2011 #

    I puzzled for years as to what an Amsterdam Jar was, eventually worked out that Ronnie was mispronouncing the word “ja”, clearly was reading the lyric off some music.

    A bit like Phil Harris reading “Whenever I wonder, wherever I roam, I couldn’t be found… of my big home”, one of those classic ‘unfixed’ lyrical mistakes (in JB2, it became ‘fonder’)

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    wichita lineman on 24 Jan 2011 #

    According to the VERY FIRST POP ANNUAL, Discland, from 1955:

    “Ronnie Hilton’s real name is Adrian Hill. When HMV recording manager Wally Ridley heard it he told me (the Daily Mirror’s Pat Doncaster) ‘We had to change that for the record label… sounded more like an osteopath'”

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    enitharmon on 24 Jan 2011 #

    wichita @ 13

    Or alternatively HMV may have wished to avoid confusion with the artist of that name who presented a popular early-evening television programme in the 1950s/early 1960s. (Although the Wikipedia entry suggests Sketch Club was a children’s programme I don’t think it was aimed exclusively at children. I distinctly remember watching in with my dad so it must have been on after six, at least at the end of its run.)

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    wichita lineman on 25 Jan 2011 #

    How intriguing, Rosie, I’d never heard of him. “He saw art therapy as becoming an integral part of the National Health Service” – it really makes you despair, doesn’t it.

    I guess Ronnie H became a famous name first, but it was a close thing. Wally Ridley might not have been so damning if Adrian Hill the artist was well known in 1955.

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    wllilly on 28 Apr 2017 #

    …NOL’s melody did indeed first appear in Richard Rogers’ score Victory At Sea , but the reworking into a song and addition of Oscar Hammerstein’s lyrics were for use in R&H’s not greatly successful and never filmed Broadway musical Me And Juliet .
    There’s a Wikipedia story of course and a YouTube posting of the complete original cast album , but it’s difficult for me to link to on this phone ! Alas .

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