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	<description>Lollards in the high church of low culture</description>
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		<title>By: CarsmileSteve</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/wedge/2007/11/whodiddit/#comment-344353</link>
		<dc:creator>CarsmileSteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PEELER? bobby? bobby peel? peeler? peeler? bobby peel? bobby?</description>
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		<title>By: c i s</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/wedge/2007/11/whodiddit/#comment-344175</link>
		<dc:creator>c i s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think if the racialist Chinaman is actually working for a time-travelling war criminal from the 50th century it becomes mandatory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if the racialist Chinaman is actually working for a time-travelling war criminal from the 50th century it becomes mandatory.</p>
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		<title>By: pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/wedge/2007/11/whodiddit/#comment-344167</link>
		<dc:creator>pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>poirot was head of the belgian police before the Grebt War so presumably salted a bunch of ENTIRELY PROPERLY EARNED dosh down then -- although as he NEVER SEEMS TO RETURN TO BELGIUM maybe not so properly! 

to be fair sayers makes a lot of play of wimsey&#039;s insufferability, and indeed he uses it himself also, plays up to it to crack open the class conundrum -- cf also the &quot;lawrence llewellyn-bowen = our sherlock holmes&quot; theory</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>poirot was head of the belgian police before the Grebt War so presumably salted a bunch of ENTIRELY PROPERLY EARNED dosh down then &#8212; although as he NEVER SEEMS TO RETURN TO BELGIUM maybe not so properly! </p>
<p>to be fair sayers makes a lot of play of wimsey&#8217;s insufferability, and indeed he uses it himself also, plays up to it to crack open the class conundrum &#8212; cf also the &#8220;lawrence llewellyn-bowen = our sherlock holmes&#8221; theory</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/wedge/2007/11/whodiddit/#comment-344160</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I particularly like it when the poor ole PEELER (urban bumpkin!) is baffled by the universal expertise in KUNG FU displayed by chinese-stereotype-cipher-character - happens every time, followed by a speech later about how &quot;a gentleman fights only using his fists&quot; ie &quot;MUM THEY WERE CHEATING&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I particularly like it when the poor ole PEELER (urban bumpkin!) is baffled by the universal expertise in KUNG FU displayed by chinese-stereotype-cipher-character &#8211; happens every time, followed by a speech later about how &#8220;a gentleman fights only using his fists&#8221; ie &#8220;MUM THEY WERE CHEATING&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/wedge/2007/11/whodiddit/#comment-344148</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it OK if the racialist Chinaman is actually working for a time-travelling war criminal from the 50th century?</description>
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		<title>By: c i s</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/wedge/2007/11/whodiddit/#comment-344133</link>
		<dc:creator>c i s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, as Brack says, I&#039;m pretty sure that &#039;Chinaman&#039; means &#039;that stock character of opium-selling sleaze and eeeeevil, the sinister Chinaman&#039;, rather than &#039;any person of Chinese descent&#039;. I&#039;ve read some Golden-Agey stuff with sinister-Chinaman final boss characters and it really does ruin the book, both by its skincrawling racism and by being so bleedin obvious. even when it&#039;s an intentional misdirect.

it&#039;s funny, i have really no problem with P. Wimsey but cannot cannot stand Monty Egg - I suspect it is because I subscribe to the secret other rule of Golden-Age detective fiction which states that the (male?) detective must be a of a &lt;i&gt;slightly&lt;/i&gt; higher social class than the upper-middle-class crime he is detecting (wimsey a duke&#039;s second son, campion some kind of disinherited scion, poirot at the very least of v independent means (where &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; poirot&#039;s money from?), alleyn an eton-oxford-diplomaticservice type) (and then with a sidekick from a rung just below the class of the crime, who nevertheless is by his own rights more honourable). I am far too much of a snob to accept Monty Egg, a &lt;i&gt;travelling salesman&lt;/i&gt;, of all things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, as Brack says, I&#8217;m pretty sure that &#8216;Chinaman&#8217; means &#8216;that stock character of opium-selling sleaze and eeeeevil, the sinister Chinaman&#8217;, rather than &#8216;any person of Chinese descent&#8217;. I&#8217;ve read some Golden-Agey stuff with sinister-Chinaman final boss characters and it really does ruin the book, both by its skincrawling racism and by being so bleedin obvious. even when it&#8217;s an intentional misdirect.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s funny, i have really no problem with P. Wimsey but cannot cannot stand Monty Egg &#8211; I suspect it is because I subscribe to the secret other rule of Golden-Age detective fiction which states that the (male?) detective must be a of a <i>slightly</i> higher social class than the upper-middle-class crime he is detecting (wimsey a duke&#8217;s second son, campion some kind of disinherited scion, poirot at the very least of v independent means (where <i>is</i> poirot&#8217;s money from?), alleyn an eton-oxford-diplomaticservice type) (and then with a sidekick from a rung just below the class of the crime, who nevertheless is by his own rights more honourable). I am far too much of a snob to accept Monty Egg, a <i>travelling salesman</i>, of all things.</p>
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		<title>By: Angus</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/wedge/2007/11/whodiddit/#comment-343899</link>
		<dc:creator>Angus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting that christie&#039;s most famous novel (the murder of roger ackroyd) is based on the grossest possible violation of rule no 1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting that christie&#8217;s most famous novel (the murder of roger ackroyd) is based on the grossest possible violation of rule no 1</p>
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		<title>By: Brack</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/wedge/2007/11/whodiddit/#comment-343784</link>
		<dc:creator>Brack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that, despite it&#039;s wording, Number 5 is actually a kind of anti-racist rule.

As I understand it, it was there to avoid the propensity for one-note Fu Manchu-esque villains that peppered the genre at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that, despite it&#8217;s wording, Number 5 is actually a kind of anti-racist rule.</p>
<p>As I understand it, it was there to avoid the propensity for one-note Fu Manchu-esque villains that peppered the genre at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: a logged-out pˆnk s lord whatnot</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/wedge/2007/11/whodiddit/#comment-343720</link>
		<dc:creator>a logged-out pˆnk s lord whatnot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>daer alang
plz to institute a feature called LESS which i can insert into my posts so that all the explanation i left out gets put tidily in okthxbye</description>
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plz to institute a feature called LESS which i can insert into my posts so that all the explanation i left out gets put tidily in okthxbye</p>
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		<title>By: Alix</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/wedge/2007/11/whodiddit/#comment-343706</link>
		<dc:creator>Alix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, sorry, I just totally forgot about &#039;more&#039;. Idiot me. 

Carr was supposed to be the master of the locked room, wasn&#039;t he? I should read the Hollow Man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, sorry, I just totally forgot about &#8216;more&#8217;. Idiot me. </p>
<p>Carr was supposed to be the master of the locked room, wasn&#8217;t he? I should read the Hollow Man.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/wedge/2007/11/whodiddit/#comment-343694</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gimme &lt;!- -more- -&gt;

if yr using the &#039;visual editor&#039; with all clever buttonbar and that when yr writing, there should be a &#039;more&#039; button that puts in a mark where the story stops on the front page. or if yr doing hardkore html stylee you put in &lt;tt&gt;&lt;!- -more- -&gt;&lt;/tt&gt; (er without spaces tho rly -- LATE EDIT: AND NOT FORGETTING THE !)

There&#039;s a great bit in The Hollow Man (JD Carr) where he lays out the fair rules of locked room mysteries, sort of like a reader&#039;s charter. It&#039;s combined with a weird sort of meta bit where the character is pretty much a voice for the author outlining a sort of ontology of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gimme &lt;!- -more- -></p>
<p>if yr using the &#8216;visual editor&#8217; with all clever buttonbar and that when yr writing, there should be a &#8216;more&#8217; button that puts in a mark where the story stops on the front page. or if yr doing hardkore html stylee you put in <tt>&lt;!- -more- -></tt> (er without spaces tho rly &#8212; LATE EDIT: AND NOT FORGETTING THE !)</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a great bit in The Hollow Man (JD Carr) where he lays out the fair rules of locked room mysteries, sort of like a reader&#8217;s charter. It&#8217;s combined with a weird sort of meta bit where the character is pretty much a voice for the author outlining a sort of ontology of them.</p>
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		<title>By: a logged-out pˆnk s lord whatnot</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/wedge/2007/11/whodiddit/#comment-343690</link>
		<dc:creator>a logged-out pˆnk s lord whatnot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1: &lt;a href=&quot;http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/see/2005/05/oh-my-god-it-almost-made-me-watch-it/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;more on fr dowling&lt;/a&gt;
2: well done not mentioning that big fake s.holmes
3: monty egg is EVEN WORSE than lord p.wimsey in respect of annoying insufferableness</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1: <a href="http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/see/2005/05/oh-my-god-it-almost-made-me-watch-it/" rel="nofollow">more on fr dowling</a><br />
2: well done not mentioning that big fake s.holmes<br />
3: monty egg is EVEN WORSE than lord p.wimsey in respect of annoying insufferableness</p>
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		<title>By: Alix</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/wedge/2007/11/whodiddit/#comment-343686</link>
		<dc:creator>Alix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seem incapable of short posts, sorry.</description>
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