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	<title>Comments on: The Trouble With Pop: Avril Lavigne</title>
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	<description>Lollards in the high church of low culture</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hazel</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/pop/2007/12/the-trouble-with-pop-avril-lavigne/#comment-357977</link>
		<dc:creator>Hazel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I like is that Avril looks really fit with red hair. Also that her evil self has been revealed as being properly evil, whereas in 'Sk8r Boi' there was that ambiguity about what sort of noses were evil and what weren't.

Evil Avril I can get on board with. It's quite joyously subversive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I like is that Avril looks really fit with red hair. Also that her evil self has been revealed as being properly evil, whereas in &#8216;Sk8r Boi&#8217; there was that ambiguity about what sort of noses were evil and what weren&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Evil Avril I can get on board with. It&#8217;s quite joyously subversive.</p>
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		<title>By: Sally Kenwaite</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/pop/2007/12/the-trouble-with-pop-avril-lavigne/#comment-355029</link>
		<dc:creator>Sally Kenwaite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 16:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EVEN THOUGH AVRIL ROCKS! SHE IS STILL FOOKING SHIT CRAP BECAUSE SHE IS NOT ENGLISH!!!! BRITPOP IS FOR US BRITS ONLY - YOU AMERICAN GAYS SHOULD FOOOK OFF!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EVEN THOUGH AVRIL ROCKS! SHE IS STILL FOOKING SHIT CRAP BECAUSE SHE IS NOT ENGLISH!!!! BRITPOP IS FOR US BRITS ONLY - YOU AMERICAN GAYS SHOULD FOOOK OFF!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: The Trouble With Pop: Avril Lavigne, This is my favourite song of 2007 - Avril Lavigne Bandaids: The Best Damn Avril Lavigne Fansite</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Trouble With Pop: Avril Lavigne, This is my favourite song of 2007 - Avril Lavigne Bandaids: The Best Damn Avril Lavigne Fansite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 01:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fivelongdays</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/pop/2007/12/the-trouble-with-pop-avril-lavigne/#comment-353719</link>
		<dc:creator>fivelongdays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was RIDICULOUSLY (sp paranoia o'clock!) disappointed when I found out she wasn't singing "I know that you like men".

"Hmm, Avril" I thought, "maybe that's why you're not, y'know, his girlfriend. She's so totally a Fag-Hag/Beard/Whatever the PC Hipsta term is these days."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was RIDICULOUSLY (sp paranoia o&#8217;clock!) disappointed when I found out she wasn&#8217;t singing &#8220;I know that you like men&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Hmm, Avril&#8221; I thought, &#8220;maybe that&#8217;s why you&#8217;re not, y&#8217;know, his girlfriend. She&#8217;s so totally a Fag-Hag/Beard/Whatever the PC Hipsta term is these days.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/pop/2007/12/the-trouble-with-pop-avril-lavigne/#comment-353703</link>
		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan - I did enter the embed code in the code section but it just ignored it :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan - I did enter the embed code in the code section but it just ignored it :(</p>
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		<title>By: lex</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/pop/2007/12/the-trouble-with-pop-avril-lavigne/#comment-353654</link>
		<dc:creator>lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Actually, it’s often the case that a song’s protagonist portrays herself as a victim so that she can then victimize the person who victimized her"

Beyoncé is queen of this on 'If', which is a big emotional ballad about how she has decided to run off with her boyfriend's best friend, but the fault is all the boyfriend's - the song takes the moral high ground with no shame whatsoever, points a quivering finger at the guy she is dumping and lays ALL the blame on him. Her tears are the only justifiable tears: "If you let him take me from you, I guess I'll finally see / If you let him take me from you, oh you never wanted me." WAY TO TURN SITUATION ROUND, B!

Um anyway I like 'Girlfriend' precisely because it's mean and bitchy. Nice pop stars singing nice smiley pop songs = BORING. This is why the best bits of &lt;i&gt;Mean Girls&lt;/i&gt; are the catty one-liners rather than the cop-out hugglez ending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Actually, it’s often the case that a song’s protagonist portrays herself as a victim so that she can then victimize the person who victimized her&#8221;</p>
<p>Beyoncé is queen of this on &#8216;If&#8217;, which is a big emotional ballad about how she has decided to run off with her boyfriend&#8217;s best friend, but the fault is all the boyfriend&#8217;s - the song takes the moral high ground with no shame whatsoever, points a quivering finger at the guy she is dumping and lays ALL the blame on him. Her tears are the only justifiable tears: &#8220;If you let him take me from you, I guess I&#8217;ll finally see / If you let him take me from you, oh you never wanted me.&#8221; WAY TO TURN SITUATION ROUND, B!</p>
<p>Um anyway I like &#8216;Girlfriend&#8217; precisely because it&#8217;s mean and bitchy. Nice pop stars singing nice smiley pop songs = BORING. This is why the best bits of <i>Mean Girls</i> are the catty one-liners rather than the cop-out hugglez ending.</p>
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		<title>By: pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/pop/2007/12/the-trouble-with-pop-avril-lavigne/#comment-353627</link>
		<dc:creator>pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha in 1988 i was 28: so being pushed about on the playground was HUMILIATING!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha in 1988 i was 28: so being pushed about on the playground was HUMILIATING!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/pop/2007/12/the-trouble-with-pop-avril-lavigne/#comment-353623</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I now always ALWAYS mentally fill in "Little Mama and Avril La-VEEENE!" when I hear the track but otherwise I can't even remember what's in the remix.

I think I got sick of this song about halfway through the year, but rationing encounters with it since (on dancefloors, on this show) I've decided I like it again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I now always ALWAYS mentally fill in &#8220;Little Mama and Avril La-VEEENE!&#8221; when I hear the track but otherwise I can&#8217;t even remember what&#8217;s in the remix.</p>
<p>I think I got sick of this song about halfway through the year, but rationing encounters with it since (on dancefloors, on this show) I&#8217;ve decided I like it again.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc H.</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/pop/2007/12/the-trouble-with-pop-avril-lavigne/#comment-353615</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought I hated this song until I heard the remix with Lil Mama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAoo71VEYhs

Not sure why one version works for me and not the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought I hated this song until I heard the remix with Lil Mama:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAoo71VEYhs" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAoo71VEYhs&amp;referer=');">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAoo71VEYhs</a></p>
<p>Not sure why one version works for me and not the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcello Carlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcello Carlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>delayed revenge for mark s being ridiculed in 1988 school playground equivalent: "hyuk hyuk who dun PUSH IT then?" ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>delayed revenge for mark s being ridiculed in 1988 school playground equivalent: &#8220;hyuk hyuk who dun PUSH IT then?&#8221; ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/pop/2007/12/the-trouble-with-pop-avril-lavigne/#comment-353607</link>
		<dc:creator>pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like this song tremendously because it speaks to an assertive and spiteful element in myself that doesn't get to voice so much -- i have zero interest in avril really, but i am secretly excited by the idea of myself manifesting as this character: haha WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING!? i worry that i am a bit passive aggressive when it coms to love, and this persona is VERY not passive aggressive 

(this is a topsyturvy way of saying that my non-secret self is always beyond lovely obv)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like this song tremendously because it speaks to an assertive and spiteful element in myself that doesn&#8217;t get to voice so much &#8212; i have zero interest in avril really, but i am secretly excited by the idea of myself manifesting as this character: haha WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING!? i worry that i am a bit passive aggressive when it coms to love, and this persona is VERY not passive aggressive </p>
<p>(this is a topsyturvy way of saying that my non-secret self is always beyond lovely obv)</p>
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		<title>By: koganbot</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/pop/2007/12/the-trouble-with-pop-avril-lavigne/#comment-353601</link>
		<dc:creator>koganbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It seems to be much more often the case that a song's protagonist is the victim - heartbreak, unrequited love and so on.&lt;/i&gt;

Actually, it's often the case that a song's protagonist portrays herself as a victim so that she can then victimize the person who victimized her. (Many country's foreign policies are justified in exactly this way.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It seems to be much more often the case that a song&#8217;s protagonist is the victim - heartbreak, unrequited love and so on.</i></p>
<p>Actually, it&#8217;s often the case that a song&#8217;s protagonist portrays herself as a victim so that she can then victimize the person who victimized her. (Many country&#8217;s foreign policies are justified in exactly this way.)</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/pop/2007/12/the-trouble-with-pop-avril-lavigne/#comment-353581</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sure you can - there are wordpress cleverness things around that will turn links into embedded videos, but all you actually have to do is paste in the "Embed" code (top right) on the youtube page

if you are using the WYSIWYG editor to write you have to switch to 'code' (i think it is) before you paste in raw HTML obv.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sure you can - there are wordpress cleverness things around that will turn links into embedded videos, but all you actually have to do is paste in the &#8220;Embed&#8221; code (top right) on the youtube page</p>
<p>if you are using the WYSIWYG editor to write you have to switch to &#8216;code&#8217; (i think it is) before you paste in raw HTML obv.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcello Carlin</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/pop/2007/12/the-trouble-with-pop-avril-lavigne/#comment-353578</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcello Carlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This record is so bad it already makes me feel nostalgic for the golden age when it were all "Don't 'Cha?" around here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This record is so bad it already makes me feel nostalgic for the golden age when it were all &#8220;Don&#8217;t &#8216;Cha?&#8221; around here.</p>
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		<title>By: katstevens</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/pop/2007/12/the-trouble-with-pop-avril-lavigne/#comment-353576</link>
		<dc:creator>katstevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan, is there any way of embedding Youtube videos? It obv hasn't worked above...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan, is there any way of embedding Youtube videos? It obv hasn&#8217;t worked above&#8230;</p>
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