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	<title>Comments on: The Trouble With Pop: Avril Lavigne</title>
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		<title>By: Hazel</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/the-trouble-with-pop-avril-lavigne/#comment-357977</link>
		<dc:creator>Hazel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I like is that Avril looks really fit with red hair. Also that her evil self has been revealed as being properly evil, whereas in &#039;Sk8r Boi&#039; there was that ambiguity about what sort of noses were evil and what weren&#039;t.

Evil Avril I can get on board with. It&#039;s quite joyously subversive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I like is that Avril looks really fit with red hair. Also that her evil self has been revealed as being properly evil, whereas in &#8216;Sk8r Boi&#8217; there was that ambiguity about what sort of noses were evil and what weren&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Evil Avril I can get on board with. It&#8217;s quite joyously subversive.</p>
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		<title>By: Sally Kenwaite</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/the-trouble-with-pop-avril-lavigne/#comment-355029</link>
		<dc:creator>Sally Kenwaite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 16:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EVEN THOUGH AVRIL ROCKS! SHE IS STILL FOOKING SHIT CRAP BECAUSE SHE IS NOT ENGLISH!!!! BRITPOP IS FOR US BRITS ONLY - YOU AMERICAN GAYS SHOULD FOOOK OFF!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EVEN THOUGH AVRIL ROCKS! SHE IS STILL FOOKING SHIT CRAP BECAUSE SHE IS NOT ENGLISH!!!! BRITPOP IS FOR US BRITS ONLY &#8211; YOU AMERICAN GAYS SHOULD FOOOK OFF!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: The Trouble With Pop: Avril Lavigne, This is my favourite song of 2007 - Avril Lavigne Bandaids: The Best Damn Avril Lavigne Fansite</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Trouble With Pop: Avril Lavigne, This is my favourite song of 2007 - Avril Lavigne Bandaids: The Best Damn Avril Lavigne Fansite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 01:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fivelongdays</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/the-trouble-with-pop-avril-lavigne/#comment-353719</link>
		<dc:creator>fivelongdays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was RIDICULOUSLY (sp paranoia o&#039;clock!) disappointed when I found out she wasn&#039;t singing &quot;I know that you like men&quot;.

&quot;Hmm, Avril&quot; I thought, &quot;maybe that&#039;s why you&#039;re not, y&#039;know, his girlfriend. She&#039;s so totally a Fag-Hag/Beard/Whatever the PC Hipsta term is these days.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was RIDICULOUSLY (sp paranoia o&#8217;clock!) disappointed when I found out she wasn&#8217;t singing &#8220;I know that you like men&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Hmm, Avril&#8221; I thought, &#8220;maybe that&#8217;s why you&#8217;re not, y&#8217;know, his girlfriend. She&#8217;s so totally a Fag-Hag/Beard/Whatever the PC Hipsta term is these days.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/the-trouble-with-pop-avril-lavigne/#comment-353703</link>
		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan - I did enter the embed code in the code section but it just ignored it :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan &#8211; I did enter the embed code in the code section but it just ignored it :(</p>
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		<title>By: lex</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/the-trouble-with-pop-avril-lavigne/#comment-353654</link>
		<dc:creator>lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Actually, it’s often the case that a song’s protagonist portrays herself as a victim so that she can then victimize the person who victimized her&quot;

Beyoncé is queen of this on &#039;If&#039;, which is a big emotional ballad about how she has decided to run off with her boyfriend&#039;s best friend, but the fault is all the boyfriend&#039;s - the song takes the moral high ground with no shame whatsoever, points a quivering finger at the guy she is dumping and lays ALL the blame on him. Her tears are the only justifiable tears: &quot;If you let him take me from you, I guess I&#039;ll finally see / If you let him take me from you, oh you never wanted me.&quot; WAY TO TURN SITUATION ROUND, B!

Um anyway I like &#039;Girlfriend&#039; precisely because it&#039;s mean and bitchy. Nice pop stars singing nice smiley pop songs = BORING. This is why the best bits of &lt;i&gt;Mean Girls&lt;/i&gt; are the catty one-liners rather than the cop-out hugglez ending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Actually, it’s often the case that a song’s protagonist portrays herself as a victim so that she can then victimize the person who victimized her&#8221;</p>
<p>Beyoncé is queen of this on &#8216;If&#8217;, which is a big emotional ballad about how she has decided to run off with her boyfriend&#8217;s best friend, but the fault is all the boyfriend&#8217;s &#8211; the song takes the moral high ground with no shame whatsoever, points a quivering finger at the guy she is dumping and lays ALL the blame on him. Her tears are the only justifiable tears: &#8220;If you let him take me from you, I guess I&#8217;ll finally see / If you let him take me from you, oh you never wanted me.&#8221; WAY TO TURN SITUATION ROUND, B!</p>
<p>Um anyway I like &#8216;Girlfriend&#8217; precisely because it&#8217;s mean and bitchy. Nice pop stars singing nice smiley pop songs = BORING. This is why the best bits of <i>Mean Girls</i> are the catty one-liners rather than the cop-out hugglez ending.</p>
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		<title>By: pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/the-trouble-with-pop-avril-lavigne/#comment-353627</link>
		<dc:creator>pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha in 1988 i was 28: so being pushed about on the playground was HUMILIATING!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha in 1988 i was 28: so being pushed about on the playground was HUMILIATING!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/the-trouble-with-pop-avril-lavigne/#comment-353623</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I now always ALWAYS mentally fill in &quot;Little Mama and Avril La-VEEENE!&quot; when I hear the track but otherwise I can&#039;t even remember what&#039;s in the remix.

I think I got sick of this song about halfway through the year, but rationing encounters with it since (on dancefloors, on this show) I&#039;ve decided I like it again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I now always ALWAYS mentally fill in &#8220;Little Mama and Avril La-VEEENE!&#8221; when I hear the track but otherwise I can&#8217;t even remember what&#8217;s in the remix.</p>
<p>I think I got sick of this song about halfway through the year, but rationing encounters with it since (on dancefloors, on this show) I&#8217;ve decided I like it again.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc H.</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/the-trouble-with-pop-avril-lavigne/#comment-353615</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought I hated this song until I heard the remix with Lil Mama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAoo71VEYhs

Not sure why one version works for me and not the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought I hated this song until I heard the remix with Lil Mama:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAoo71VEYhs" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAoo71VEYhs&amp;referer=');">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAoo71VEYhs</a></p>
<p>Not sure why one version works for me and not the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcello Carlin</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/the-trouble-with-pop-avril-lavigne/#comment-353613</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcello Carlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>delayed revenge for mark s being ridiculed in 1988 school playground equivalent: &quot;hyuk hyuk who dun PUSH IT then?&quot; ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>delayed revenge for mark s being ridiculed in 1988 school playground equivalent: &#8220;hyuk hyuk who dun PUSH IT then?&#8221; ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/the-trouble-with-pop-avril-lavigne/#comment-353607</link>
		<dc:creator>pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like this song tremendously because it speaks to an assertive and spiteful element in myself that doesn&#039;t get to voice so much -- i have zero interest in avril really, but i am secretly excited by the idea of myself manifesting as this character: haha WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING!? i worry that i am a bit passive aggressive when it coms to love, and this persona is VERY not passive aggressive 

(this is a topsyturvy way of saying that my non-secret self is always beyond lovely obv)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like this song tremendously because it speaks to an assertive and spiteful element in myself that doesn&#8217;t get to voice so much &#8212; i have zero interest in avril really, but i am secretly excited by the idea of myself manifesting as this character: haha WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING!? i worry that i am a bit passive aggressive when it coms to love, and this persona is VERY not passive aggressive </p>
<p>(this is a topsyturvy way of saying that my non-secret self is always beyond lovely obv)</p>
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		<title>By: koganbot</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/the-trouble-with-pop-avril-lavigne/#comment-353601</link>
		<dc:creator>koganbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It seems to be much more often the case that a song&#039;s protagonist is the victim - heartbreak, unrequited love and so on.&lt;/i&gt;

Actually, it&#039;s often the case that a song&#039;s protagonist portrays herself as a victim so that she can then victimize the person who victimized her. (Many country&#039;s foreign policies are justified in exactly this way.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It seems to be much more often the case that a song&#8217;s protagonist is the victim &#8211; heartbreak, unrequited love and so on.</i></p>
<p>Actually, it&#8217;s often the case that a song&#8217;s protagonist portrays herself as a victim so that she can then victimize the person who victimized her. (Many country&#8217;s foreign policies are justified in exactly this way.)</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/the-trouble-with-pop-avril-lavigne/#comment-353581</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sure you can - there are wordpress cleverness things around that will turn links into embedded videos, but all you actually have to do is paste in the &quot;Embed&quot; code (top right) on the youtube page

if you are using the WYSIWYG editor to write you have to switch to &#039;code&#039; (i think it is) before you paste in raw HTML obv.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sure you can &#8211; there are wordpress cleverness things around that will turn links into embedded videos, but all you actually have to do is paste in the &#8220;Embed&#8221; code (top right) on the youtube page</p>
<p>if you are using the WYSIWYG editor to write you have to switch to &#8216;code&#8217; (i think it is) before you paste in raw HTML obv.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcello Carlin</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/the-trouble-with-pop-avril-lavigne/#comment-353578</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcello Carlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This record is so bad it already makes me feel nostalgic for the golden age when it were all &quot;Don&#039;t &#039;Cha?&quot; around here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This record is so bad it already makes me feel nostalgic for the golden age when it were all &#8220;Don&#8217;t &#8216;Cha?&#8221; around here.</p>
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		<title>By: katstevens</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/the-trouble-with-pop-avril-lavigne/#comment-353576</link>
		<dc:creator>katstevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan, is there any way of embedding Youtube videos? It obv hasn&#039;t worked above...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan, is there any way of embedding Youtube videos? It obv hasn&#8217;t worked above&#8230;</p>
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