Comments on: SAINT ETIENNE – “Popular” https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular Lollards in the high church of low culture Tue, 09 May 2023 12:10:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Gareth Parker https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-6#comment-2539137 Thu, 23 Sep 2021 00:13:36 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-2539137 Great record imho. and a marvellous tribute! 8/10 for me.

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By: Jimmy the Swede https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-6#comment-2202302 Thu, 05 Oct 2017 15:31:44 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-2202302 A contestant on today’s Pop-Master, Paul from Stockton-On-Tees, told the convivial Ken Bruce that he had recently seen St Etts and not only loved it but had been invited backstage “by their keyboard player” and thought what pleasant people they all were. Ken agreed and told Paul and the nation that he, Ken, appeared on St Etts new album. He too mentioned what nice folk they were. Neither went the obvious extra mile by singling out the divine Sarah for extra praise. Paul won but didn’t get the three in ten.

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By: Erithian https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-6#comment-1732525 Mon, 25 Jan 2016 23:31:03 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1732525 Tom, by all means remove this comment if he wants to play it down, but did I spot something on Twitter yesterday to the effect that Wichita has become a dad? Warmest congratulations to Mr and Mrs Lino and rockin’ Len.

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By: anto https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-6#comment-1255575 Fri, 08 Nov 2013 14:45:04 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1255575 re148: Apart from the music on the soundtrack there’s curiously little in the film* to suggest what year it’s meant to be. If there is any significance to the date it might be because Irwin’s rather cynical but effective teaching methods are clearly about to usurp Hector’s learning-for-the-love-of-learning approach.
One of the most shocking moments in ‘The History Boys’ is when the Headmaster ferociously turns on Hector and his methods (‘Screw the renaissance, and literature and Plato and Michaelangelo and Oscar Wilde and all the other shrunken violets you people line up’) thus making his bias perfectly clear.

* The play quotes ‘It’s A Sin’ by the Pet Shop Boys so is presumably set a few years later.

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By: punctum https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-6#comment-1255549 Fri, 08 Nov 2013 13:20:48 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1255549 No, because either way you’re still dealing with subjectivity. I find persuading people a better method these days, coupled with trying to find the good points in what looks like unpromising material (i.e. most of 1983’s number one albums). Rather than just say “hyuk hyuk what were people thinking” I endeavour to find out why people were thinking what they thought, and what the findings say about me and/or those times and/or the present day.

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By: iconoclast https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1255523 Fri, 08 Nov 2013 11:49:14 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1255523 @146: one of your best pieces; I always look forward to reading them.

In general: but isn’t it part of the fun of discussing popular music to get riled up when you hear or read somebody heaping unstinting praise on something which is quite obviously garbage, or the reverse?

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By: tm https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1255485 Fri, 08 Nov 2013 09:03:59 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1255485 I’ve always though that if there’s a lazy critical consensus, it’s towards what Tom called The Big Cultural Stiffy For Other People’s Misery owtte, for self conscious ‘intelligence’ and for unglamorous white, male, middle-class people who look like the majority of the writers (cf Dave Lee Roth’s comment about Elvis Costello), rather than Rock per se.

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By: swanstep https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1255355 Fri, 08 Nov 2013 00:47:03 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1255355 The History Boys is set in 1983 and, at least in its movie version, makes it seem like a Smiths/Echo/New Order/Cure wonderland.

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By: Patrick Mexico, the Inanimate Carbon God https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1255312 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 21:49:17 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1255312 Sounds excellent, Marcello.. shared the link on Facebook to one of the creators of “200 Worst Songs”.. a very good blog full of classic British cynicism (though it lays on SU bar politics a bit too thickly), but no point linking it here as it would be bunny armageddon.

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By: punctum https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1255281 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 19:39:03 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1255281 And indeed, here is the first of TPL’s twenty-one entries to deal with 1983: http://nobilliards.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/various-artists-raiders-of-pop-charts.html

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By: Patrick Mexico, the Inanimate Carbon God https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1255269 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 18:56:50 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1255269 Scandal – The Warrior. Now I wish that hit Popular. Maybe not for the right reasons, however..

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By: punctum https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1255211 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 15:09:47 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1255211 With my TPL hat on, I’m currently in the process of rediscovering the pop of 1983. It’s not a pretty picture, I can tell you.

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By: Mark G https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1255203 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 14:47:12 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1255203 Sundays are a ‘day’ of rest.

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By: Erithian https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1255162 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 12:17:52 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1255162 How about the current relative public profiles of the Saturdays, the Sundays and the Mondays?

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By: Mark G https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1255161 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 12:14:04 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1255161 And as somebody said in some book or other, the best year of Pop was the one where you first discovered pop. e.g. I always rated 1983, but that was more a re-discovery. I refuse to back my pick by going back and looking..

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By: punctum https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1255138 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 11:24:30 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1255138 As somebody (p*nk s?f Andy Gill? Biba Kopf?) once said in the NME, music is never as good as it was while you’re living through it.

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By: Tom https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1255136 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 11:02:51 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1255136 This was always Dave Q’s point – rockism is the populist music fan position, it’s not something imposed from above. The arguments deplored by pop writers – authenticity, test-of-time, who’s faking it – are the ones most easily reached for in any office and pub.

Now, the good news for “pop” is that easily reached for arguments tend to have very little to do with actual behaviour, and the rockist arguments are so flexible they can be applied to almost ANYTHING – pretty much any record over 10 years old on YouTube gets ‘why don’t they make them like this anymore? modern music is plastic crap’ commentary no matter how woeful it seemed at the time.

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By: punctum https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1255124 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 10:27:00 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1255124 I think that if we have reached the stage where there are things like “the orthodox rock position” then rock music has been for nothing.

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By: Tim https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1255122 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 10:24:04 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1255122 I think Mark M’s point is not so much about the current relative public profiles of The Clash and The Sundays, it’s more about where one is most likely to find the orthodox rock position.

I feel like I’m much more likely to hear “don’t even play their instruments” / “don’t even write their own songs” etc from people randomly chatting about music in the office than I am to encounter them in rowckwrite these days. That might reflect more on my chosen rockread, of course.

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By: Mark M https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1255121 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 10:23:22 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1255121 Re 135: I’m not saying the bulk of ordinary punters, I’m just saying those are attitudes often ascribed to (non-specified) critics (and academics) that I’ve more often encountered among, say, the readers of Mojo or Uncut rather than the staff of those magazines. It was a stance certainly held by a lot of teenage Sounds readers back in the day.

‘I think you’re confusing music appreciation with Dungeons and Dragons.’

There’s a difference?

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By: punctum https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1255116 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 10:07:49 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1255116 Stop me if you’ve heard this one before, but my feeling has been that the orthodox rock position has always been stronger in ordinary punters than people who write about music. They have a greater stake in the notion that The Clash really, really matter and The Saturdays don’t.

Does anyone really feel this other than a few sad old men who look like Vince Vaughn and hang around used record shops? I think you’ll find that the majority of “ordinary punters,” e.g. my mum, are far more familiar with the Saturdays (always on TV, always turning up) than the Clash (whom the general public don’t know apart from that lot who did that Levi’s advert).

Also it’s not “tinkering with unorthodox positions,” it’s “providing a different opinion or point of view.” Why does every piece of music writing have to retread the same old story, toe the party line? Is it down to the resentment of a select group of people who have suddenly been told that their world is only a small corner of a far larger and more complex world?

even if they can’t bring themselves ideologically to swap sides

I think you’re confusing music appreciation with Dungeons and Dragons.

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By: Ed https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1254936 Wed, 06 Nov 2013 19:54:41 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1254936 Respect to Bob for joining in in the comments.

I think poor old Rimbaud got a bad rap, though.

This is amazing, and I would never have known about it but for Patti Smith:

Vowels

A black, E white, I red, U green, O blue: vowels
Someday I’ll talk about your secret birth-cries,
A, black velvet jacket of brilliant flies
That buzz around the stenches of the cruel,

Gulfs of shadow: E, candour of mists, of tents,
Lances of proud glaciers, white kings, shivers of parsley:
I, purples, bloody salivas, smiles of the lonely
With lips of anger or drunk with penitence:

U, waves, divine shudders of viridian seas,
Peace of pastures, cattle-filled, peace of furrows
Formed on broad studious brows by alchemy:

O, supreme Clarion, full of strange stridencies,
Silences crossed by worlds and by Angels:
O, the Omega, violet ray of her Eyes!

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By: flahr https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1254925 Wed, 06 Nov 2013 19:08:36 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1254925 Old people in ‘think things were better in their day’ shocka

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By: Mark M https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1254919 Wed, 06 Nov 2013 18:25:56 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1254919 Re 130/131: Stop me if you’ve heard this one before, but my feeling has been that the orthodox rock position has always been stronger in ordinary punters than people who write about music. They have a greater stake in the notion that The Clash really, really matter and The Saturdays don’t. Apart from anything else, most sane people immersed in any subject will find themselves tinkering with unorthodox positions just to stop getting bored, even if they can’t bring themselves ideologically to swap sides (hence ‘guilty pleasures’).
Whereas if you are either a) 15 and this all new and crucial to you or b) only get to listen to your old vinyl when the wife and kids are out of the bloody house, it’s easier to maintain a hard line.

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By: a tanned rested and unlogged lørd sükråt wötsît https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1254840 Wed, 06 Nov 2013 13:25:34 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1254840 Orthodox rock history being a bit of a strawman there in terms of well-researched doorstep-shaped books meaning to cover EVERYTHING. Charlie Gillett’s The Sound of the City, which I actually really like, only gets up to the late 70s (because that’s when it was written) and its later stages inevitably now feel quite dated. Donald Clarke’s The Rise and Fall of Popular Music starts well but overreaches far into decades DC has no sympathy for or grasp of. The Rolling Stone book is as variable as the contributors, and anyway not really a history per se. What else is there?

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By: a tanned rested and unlogged lørd sükråt wötsît https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1254839 Wed, 06 Nov 2013 13:17:48 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1254839 Yes, but there SS is just acknowledging that orthodox rock history allows THIS AMOUNT OF SPACE for certain people, and bob on the whole gives them a lot less, into order to discuss at considerable length people generally omitted. A History of Modern Pop that actually omitted the Beatles would be a very bold project indeed.

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By: Alan https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1254838 Wed, 06 Nov 2013 13:17:38 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1254838 the last 2 paras are ‘HOW DO I END THIS THING? ER WILL THIS DO’, which is fine.

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By: Mark G https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1254837 Wed, 06 Nov 2013 13:13:48 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1254837 Also, the bits where Aretha Franklin and Bob Dylan get ignored in favour of Donovan and whoever.. Well, to be fair, I have not read up to the Donovan section, having only just got through the DYLAN CHAPTER! but Aretha f. gets plenty praise..

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By: a tanned rested and unlogged lørd sükråt wötsît https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1254821 Wed, 06 Nov 2013 12:42:57 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1254821 I am fond of Sukhdev, in print and in person, and this is an enthusiastic summary — but Bob’s decision to discuss a fixed and well defined slice of history (and not attempt to bring it right up to LAST NIGHT’S CHARTS) was extremely clearly explained. It’s odd (and telling?) how resolute reviewers seem to be in reading it as a comment on the quality (or lack of it) of music since that period ended.

Also the idea that “exuberant and cross-generational linkages” have become the norm in writing about music is simply (and weirdly) false.

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By: tm https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1254801 Wed, 06 Nov 2013 11:12:10 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1254801 Anyone read this yet… http://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/nov/06/story-modern-pop-bob-stanley-review ?

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By: Erithian https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1246538 Sat, 12 Oct 2013 07:10:58 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1246538 I’m sure Bob wishes he’d done this… Saint Etienne buy up the old square goalposts from Hampden Park. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24501627

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By: punctum https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1088270 Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:19:48 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1088270 #119: the S&S video “essay” won’t play on my PC; just skips back to the main menu whenever you click on it. Write it down, Mr IV.

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By: Ed https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1087959 Sat, 06 Oct 2012 04:07:59 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1087959 @122 Great quote! Much subtler and deeper than what I was saying.

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By: ace inhibitor https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1084074 Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:19:29 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1084074 re Ed in June @81 (tardy, moi?) – ‘put enough subjective opinions together they become objective’…..

‘The good does not exist, like that, in an atemporal sky. The good is defined by us, it is practised, it is invented. And this is a collective work.’ – Foucault (pretentious, moi?)

Apart from anything else its a lovely bit of phrasing and rhythm, even in translation (OK, only in translation, I don’t know what it is in French)

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By: Rory https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-5#comment-1084068 Fri, 28 Sep 2012 10:57:17 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1084068 Since this entry gives us a sneaky backdoor to talk about current music, and since the song in question isn’t bunny-bait quite yet… I thought I would note that last night, for the first time, I found myself buying a track on iTunes just to see what Tom writes about it here in a decade’s time.

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By: El boludo https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-4#comment-1067117 Fri, 06 Jul 2012 08:30:22 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1067117 I’ve been meaning to say, this lot were fvcking great at Primavera in Porto last month. It had been a miserable saturday up to that point due to huge downpours (I go to european festivals to get away from these wretched conditions ffs!), and they really turned it around & made everyone forget the weather & start having fun again.

The new songs sounded great, too. Cheers guys!

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By: Ed https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-4#comment-1067090 Fri, 06 Jul 2012 05:11:31 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1067090 @101 An excellent answer to the “what is the greatest?” problem: http://blogs.indiewire.com/pressplay/video-sight-sound-film-poll-ignatiy-vishnevetsky-on-how-to-make-a-random-top-ten-list#.T_Z0QnkXiSo

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By: Jimmy the Swede https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-4#comment-1066167 Mon, 02 Jul 2012 16:05:18 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1066167 The Swede had a great day at the tennis last Thursday. Whilst waiting for madam outside the loo under the big screen (Henman Hill), an oldish fellow in a club blazer approached. I leapt up immediately and offered my hand, which he took. I mumbled something about him being one of the great ones and he graciously thanked me before going on his way.

It was John Newcombe.

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By: Erithian https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-4#comment-1065605 Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:16:56 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1065605 Sorry to hear that Pete – best wishes to him.

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By: Pete Baran https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-4#comment-1065584 Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:44:38 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1065584 I was subbing for the chair who has cancer. His sicknote trumped mine.

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By: Jimmy the Swede https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-4#comment-1065434 Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:27:43 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1065434 Tomorrow’s our day at Wimbledon. We’ve got tickets for Court One and the weather forecast is not good. Whilst Cliff will be breaking into song from the Royal Box on Centre as they roll the roof on, do you suppose St Etts might be persuaded into entertaining the folk over the border until the rain stops, since we ain’t got a roof?

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By: Erithian https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-4#comment-1065309 Tue, 26 Jun 2012 20:58:01 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1065309 (left hand) The chance to hear YOUR NAME in a song performed on the stage of the London Palladium; (right hand) what to do next time Ofsted come calling. Couldn’t you have phoned in sick?

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By: Pete https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-4#comment-1065286 Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:20:28 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1065286 So annoyed I couldn’t make it for the supremely rock’n’roll reason of a School Governors meeting.

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By: Erithian https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-4#comment-1065272 Tue, 26 Jun 2012 14:41:34 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1065272 Some suitably sublime digressions here on the thread that celebrates the song that celebrates the website that celebrates … etc.

Anyway, just in case anybody involved might ever read this, hearty congratulations on a hugely enjoyable evening with St Etts at the Palladium last night. Sarah clearly loved every moment of it, even (especially?) when fluffing the lyrics. Never been to a gig that seemed so much like a party – marvellous to be there. And “Popular”, complete with TOTP chart rundowns from ’75 and ’76 on the backdrop, was obviously the highspot.

And yes, Mike TD, I got the teatowel too.

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By: swanstep https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-4#comment-1063843 Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:51:52 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1063843 The Guardian has a vid. of a live session with Sarah Cracknell and co (but not Bob or Pete) doing a very nice, new song (temp-named) Jan Leeming. Highly recommended.

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By: Mark G https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-4#comment-1063221 Wed, 06 Jun 2012 23:06:30 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1063221 2002

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By: punctum https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-4#comment-1063192 Wed, 06 Jun 2012 17:10:40 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1063192 2001 a “stand-along monument”? Standing alongside what?

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By: swanstep https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-4#comment-1063175 Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:33:09 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1063175 @101. Roger Ebert wrote about his 5th time participating in the Sight and Sound poll you describe here, if you’re interested. He felt a lot of wholly internal pressure to have changed at one film in his top-10 list since the last poll. Perhaps private existential terrors aren’t so different from those felt by the Magazine Editor.

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By: Jimmy the Swede https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-4#comment-1063171 Wed, 06 Jun 2012 13:38:05 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1063171 Surely the most important moment in cinema history is when Orson is hunting a terrified and trapped Bambi through the sewers of post-war Vienna. I wonder if the Austrians eat noodles with venison?

#106 – Cobb, Arrival.

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By: punctum https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/05/saint-etienne-popular/comment-page-4#comment-1063170 Wed, 06 Jun 2012 13:32:38 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=23494#comment-1063170 Bambi’s mother turns up at Xanadu at the end: “Don’t be too hard on the boy. He was most upset at my funeral.”

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