Comments on: Best Brit Awards ever? https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever Lollards in the high church of low culture Sun, 26 Feb 2012 15:01:30 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: lonepilgrim https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-2#comment-1014320 Sun, 26 Feb 2012 15:01:30 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1014320 #34: Absolutely. I’d much rather see The Spatial AKA Orchestra and even Gorrilaz. It’s a line-up rooted in the past aimed at a generation with disposable income. Despite the mix of races in ‘The Specials’ they and the other acts seem aimed at a predominantly white audience.

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By: punctum https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-2#comment-1014169 Sun, 26 Feb 2012 09:47:21 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1014169 #31: You mean “The Specials” and “New Order.” No Dammers or Hooky, no actual group.

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By: swanstep https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-2#comment-1013954 Sun, 26 Feb 2012 02:59:52 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1013954 BTW, I’ve just discovered that youtube is (auto- right?) generating a channel for freaky-trigger-discussed music videos. Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/social/blog/9z4s7AhVuCY.

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By: swanstep https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-2#comment-1013627 Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:42:02 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1013627 If anyone’s interested, I’ve re(verse)-engineered Blur’s splendid To The End video with all the counterpart original Marienbad footage here.

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By: lonepilgrim https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-2#comment-1013115 Fri, 24 Feb 2012 23:55:25 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1013115 Blur are headlining the ‘Best of British’ concert in Hyde Park in August with special guests The Specials and New Order as part of the Olympic Closing Ceremony which doesn’t really suggest a very celebratory (or Best of British for that matter) event.

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By: Lazarus https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1013049 Fri, 24 Feb 2012 21:37:17 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1013049 Elvis Costello seems another notable omission, although I imagine he would refuse (and hasn’t really done much in the last 10 years). His record company don’t even seem to be very good at getting the CDs in the shops.

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By: Another Pete https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1012996 Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:16:13 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1012996 #28 She did a rather good version of Country House, Emeli Sande. As bad as Blur came across it was kind of like the ghost of Brits past returning to haunt the supposedly slickness of 21st century pop which for me was a good thing. Lets see Will.i.am get the US equivalent of Ken Livingstone to appear on one of his albums instead of collaborating with the same names over and over.

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By: pippa https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1012983 Fri, 24 Feb 2012 17:45:49 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1012983 Blur were so bad it kind of made me happy. I was sad to hear emeli sande was sad about them talking to stupid bloody jessie j instead of her when she won an award.

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By: Billy Smart https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1012186 Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:56:17 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1012186 If it was a pure “you make us money” thing, I would have thought that Van Morrison would still be waiting! Consulting my not-very-up-to-date 2004 Guinness Book of British Hit Singles and Albums, likely-looking recipients include;

Dire Straits
The Rolling Stones
Phil Collins
Pink Floyd
UB40
Simply Red
George Michael
Roxy Music/ Bryan Ferry
Led Zeppelin
Genesis/ Peter Gabriel

People who are in this bracket, but won’t ever get one include The Shadows, Shirley Bassey and ELO, though I imagine that Madness just about could.

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By: Cumbrian https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1012174 Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:23:17 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1012174 All flippancy aside, how come Kate Bush hasn’t got one of these Lifetime Achievement Brits?

And if it is a pure “you make us money” thing, hasn’t Sade done her bit for the British Music Industry?

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By: mark sinker https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1012170 Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:16:47 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1012170 Kiki Dee

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By: Cumbrian https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1012168 Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:11:27 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1012168 Find some that would want to be in the company of the list Billy put up.

Adele for 2030 Lifetime Achievement Brit?

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By: Conrad https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1012167 Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:11:15 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1012167 It’ll go to Adele

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By: Steve Mannion https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1012162 Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:03:12 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1012162 It should go to various women until 2030.

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By: swanstep https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1012112 Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:17:47 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1012112 George Michael?

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By: Cumbrian https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1012089 Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:26:49 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1012089 Take That’s a good bet I would say. Elton John would be funnier though.

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By: Erithian https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1012088 Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:26:40 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1012088 Blood and sand, that’s older than all but one of the Spice Girls when they got the lifetime achievement Brit in 2000. Baby and Sporty were barely 24.

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By: Billy Smart https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1012086 Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:18:52 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1012086 #16 I think my money would be on Take That, if its not too soon after Robbie. Maybe Phil Collins?

The Rolling Stones are the most glaring omission, though I imagine that Keith would refuse the honour.

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By: Erithian https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1012085 Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:17:07 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1012085 The best of many quotable lines from Digital Spy’s live thread on the event came from someone who said of Ed Sheeran, “It’s like one of Boris Johnson’s testicles learned how to play guitar”.

And re Lifetime Achievement, don’t forget the year the National Television Awards gave a lifetime achievement award to Ant and Dec. Ten years ago – when they were 27.

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By: Cumbrian https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1012084 Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:15:04 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1012084 Well then, it seems like it’s Elton John’s turn next year right?

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By: Billy Smart https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1012083 Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:12:53 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1012083 Hm, its surprisingly hard to find a simple chronological list of all the Lifetime Achievement winners. So here is one!;

1982 John Lennon (posthumous)
1983 The Beatles
Pete Towshend
1984 George Martin (!)
1985 The Police
1986 Elton John
1987 Eric Clapton
1988 The Who
1989 Cliff Richard
1990 Queen
1991 Status Quo
1992 Freddie Mercury
1993 Rod Stewart
1994 Van Morrison
1995 Elton John (again!)
1996 David Bowie
1997 The Bee Gees
1998 Fleetwood Mac
1999 Eurythmics
2000 The Spice Girls
2001 U2
2002 Sting
2003 Tom Jones
2004 Duran Duran
2005 Bob Geldof
2006 Paul Weller
2007 Oasis
2008 Paul McCartney
2009 Pet Shop Boys
2010 Robbie Williams
2011 Blur

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By: Cumbrian https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1012068 Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:34:46 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1012068 On the Lifetime Achievement/Oustanding Contribution to British Music; isn’t it usually to honour acts that have made the British Music Industry a lot of money? And if so, aren’t they just guilty of a massive failure of imagination, when it comes to who they are awarding it to? Who says it has to be a performer? It ties in nicely as they can get them to close the show but if you were to pick, for the sake of argument, Brian Eno, you could still close the show with an all star medley by bands he has produced or some such (or just him playing Music for Airports). If they’d decided to honour John Peel, you could get loads of artists that he had championed on stage for something or other. Both of these people have helped line the coffers of the music industry suits, albeit in a more roundabout way, and we’re definitely running out of acts that aren’t going to get people scratching their heads thinking “eh?”, so it seems like a decent solution.

The other option, of course, is just to not give a Lifetime Achievement award out.

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By: mark sinker https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1012053 Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:33:00 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1012053 They should totally give awards for being the butt of the popchat joke for years on end!

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By: Conrad https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1012051 Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:26:11 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1012051 @11, they haven’t done Shed Seven yet have they?

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By: Billy Smart https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1012049 Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:21:06 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1012049 Every year when the Brit Awards comes around I have the same sole thought – “They really are running out of people to give these Lifetime Achievement Awards to by now”.

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By: wichita lineman https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1012044 Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:08:05 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1012044 Poor Laetitia. They got a marginally more attractive stand-in!?

My favourite To The End-related story is that Brett Anderson got in touch with Francoise Hardy to do a duet. When she twigged this was mere Britpop oneupmanship she sent him packing. “Back to the mean streets of Haywards Heath with you, monsieur”.

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By: swanstep https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1012019 Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:56:19 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1012019 @7, wichita. I guess Albarn’s ego will have shrunk some after hearing the playback of his Song 2 vocal at the Brits. Blimey.

And since we’re on the topic of Blur, I have the following nugget to share….Fans (not just me, I swear!) have often wondered who the stunning gal is in the great vid. for To The End. Laetitia Sadier from Stereolab has often been suggested, but that’s always seemed wrong to me. Happily, the woman in question recently identified herself on youtube as Amanda Doyle. She’s a model, still working apparently. At any rate, she and Albarn and Coxon in their pomp made a pretty trio (each is more beautiful than his or her Last Year in Marienbad counterpart).

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By: Steve Mannion https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1012008 Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:42:17 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1012008 I blame Dave.

Can’t believe the relative fuss being made over this tho really, having actually watched it now. But I like Adele’s voice – her speaking voice I mean. ’23’ should be all spoken word.

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By: wichita lineman https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1011971 Thu, 23 Feb 2012 09:23:26 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1011971 Dare I suggest Blur had it written into their contract that they would have to perform x number of songs or they wouldn’t play?

ITV is taking a lot of heat for this. ‘Boy band’ Blur have egos the size of Eric Pickles. Not beyond the bounds of possibilities it was their decision.

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By: swanstep https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1011800 Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:15:28 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1011800 @elisha, 4. ITV could also (heaven forfend!) have just allowed the show to run a little long. That happens all the time with the Oscars, not to mention that with most sporting events worth their salt, the broadcast ends when play ends, whenever that is. If glorious overtime is needed that’s regarded as a bonus, etc..

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By: Elisha Sessions https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1011680 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 21:04:59 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1011680 When split-second decisions are required your true colors come out. iTV was caught in a bind – axe Blur’s third song from the main telecast, or let Adele talk? We can see how they chose. It’s not surprising to me that a woman of the moment would be thrown over in favor of a boy band from the past. What is surprising is that the instinct to do so was so strong that it trumped the commercial considerations which are always said to be paramount at these things. Rock n roll, eh?

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By: Pete Baran https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1011557 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:06:14 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1011557 Bearing in mind that Blur were
a) playing three songs
b) Continuing on ITV2 – which post digital switch nearly everyone has
c) Rubbish

It did seem harsh.

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By: Steve Mannion https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1011554 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:58:35 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1011554 “represent Britain at the Grammys, “waving our little flag”

Absolutely the green light to cut off someone’s acceptance speech when they start babbling on about this (tho not as much as thanking “God”). But to help prevent running over time further they could forbid anyone giving more than one speech on the night (or even receiving more than one award seeing as there are now only about half a dozen to give out). Yrs helpfully…

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By: Pete https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1011544 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:36:20 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1011544 I think the photo you have up there has been photoshopped. This is the photo you are correctly describing.

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By: punctum https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/02/best-brit-awards-ever/comment-page-1#comment-1011530 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:57:49 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=22939#comment-1011530 Nice try, Tracer, but this is still the last word on the Brits.

If I ever get around to thinking that “Rollin’ In The Deep” is “pretty good” then being under the sod would be the preferable future.

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