Comments on: It’s the WORD World Cup (disclaimer: not really a world cup) https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/05/its-the-word-world-cup-disclaimer-not-really-a-world-cup Lollards in the high church of low culture Mon, 24 May 2010 14:22:05 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: lonepilgrim https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/05/its-the-word-world-cup-disclaimer-not-really-a-world-cup/comment-page-1#comment-701380 Mon, 24 May 2010 14:22:05 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=18553#comment-701380 I suddenly remembered Vivian Goldman after I posted the above. She championed Brian Eno, John Martyn, Dennis Bovell and other alternatives to the mainstream at Sounds in the late 70s and deserves to be celebrated as a strong female voice in UK rock journalism of the time.

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By: lonepilgrim https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/05/its-the-word-world-cup-disclaimer-not-really-a-world-cup/comment-page-1#comment-701006 Sat, 22 May 2010 23:56:43 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=18553#comment-701006 Finally completed this; by no means a definitive list:

1. In no particular order and not being sycophantic with the last two
a. David Toop – Face music column and various books;
b. Dave Marsh (if only to get some idea of where the middle of the rock(y) road is;
c. Marcello Carlin: Then Play Long, etc.
d. Tom Ewing: Popular; Pitchfork column

2.
a. George Melly ‘Revolt into style’
b. Joan Didion ‘The White Album’
c. Tom Wolfe ‘The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test’
d. Michael Bracewell ‘Remake/Remodel’

3. I don’t honestly think there are any books about music that people “should” read but I enjoyed these
a. Paul Williams ‘Performing Artist’ Volumes 1 & 2
b. Nik Cohn & Guy Peellaert ‘Rock Dreams’
c. Stanley Booth ‘The True Adventures of the Rolling Stones’
d. Pete Frame ‘Rock family trees’
e. Mark Shipper ‘Paperback Writer’
f. Bob Dylan ‘Chronicles’

4.
a. Angus MacKinnon, NME (1980). “The Future Isn’t What It Used to Be” Interview with David Bowie around release of Scary Monsters
b. Fiona Russell Powell, The Face (early 80s); Interview with Simon Le Bon; entertaining trivia; available at her website
c. Nik Cohn, New York Magazine’ (1975) ‘Tribal rites of the new Saturday Night’ (I know he features above but it’s GPs artwork that sells the book.
d. Charles Shaar Murray, NME 1977 ‘The Social Rehabilitation of the Sex Pistols’

5.
a. Invisible Jukebox feature in The Wire
b. NME 1977-82
c. The Face 1984-89

6.
a. Singing in the Rain
b. I’m Not There
c. Video Quartet (2002) – Christian Marclay
d. Mulholland Drive – for the Club Silencio scene
e. New York, New York
f. Pennies fro Heaven

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By: Garry https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/05/its-the-word-world-cup-disclaimer-not-really-a-world-cup/comment-page-1#comment-698847 Fri, 14 May 2010 12:32:32 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=18553#comment-698847 1. Clive Bell; Steve Barker
2. Ned Sublette
3.
Clinton Walker – Stranded (Macmillan);
David Toop – Exotica;
The Virgin Encyclopedia of Eighties Music;
Kevin Whitehead – New Dutch Swing
4.
Clive James – “Louis Armstrong” (Essay in non-music book Cultural Amnesia);
Robert Foster – “Confessions and Hits (Hits and Confession)” (Review of Delta Goodrem’s Delta, from the Monthly Magazine);
Lawrence Miles – “Z-Bomb Casualty” (from his Doctor Who Thing blog. On The fame of pop stars and other people’s expectations you care.)
5.
alt.music.progressive back in the mid-nineties (whether Radiohead was prog rock and other such squabbles – also 6 degrees of seperation from Bill Bruford)
6. 24 Hour Party People; Backbeat; Music for one apartment and six drummers;

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By: sterl https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/05/its-the-word-world-cup-disclaimer-not-really-a-world-cup/comment-page-1#comment-698669 Thu, 13 May 2010 16:08:05 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=18553#comment-698669 haha I’m reading the sportswriter right now actually and finding it very enjoyable, while at the time at least, independence day was v. irritating.

1. Danyel Smith. Greg Tate. Ego Trip. Metal Mike.

2. dunno

3. Nik Cohn, Rock & the pop narcotic, where dead voices gather.

4. Bruce McCullough’s Nirvana bit from Shame-Based Man. Rich J’s (whom I used to be unfairly harsh on) beyonce.gif and mariah.gif animated shrines. Thomas Pynchon’s section in Inherent Vice regarding headphones (yes, it is from a book, but it is not a music book…). Kogan’s review of “The Song Is The Single.”

5. Jay-z vs. Nas on ilx.

6. Lil Wayne behind the music. The hot boyz movie. Josie and the Pussycats. Party Girl. Stop Making Sense. The Harder They come.

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By: punctum https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/05/its-the-word-world-cup-disclaimer-not-really-a-world-cup/comment-page-1#comment-698589 Thu, 13 May 2010 12:30:49 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=18553#comment-698589 #6: You’re right, it was. I find it hard not to think of the two books as two halves of the same book.

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By: pink champale https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/05/its-the-word-world-cup-disclaimer-not-really-a-world-cup/comment-page-1#comment-698582 Thu, 13 May 2010 11:59:33 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=18553#comment-698582 the basketball museum was in ‘independence day wasn’t it? nice analogy anyway.

noms process a bit too forbidding for me, but look forward to the results.

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By: mark sinker https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/05/its-the-word-world-cup-disclaimer-not-really-a-world-cup/comment-page-1#comment-698579 Thu, 13 May 2010 11:47:21 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=18553#comment-698579 treat history more fairly: then i shall INSIST on those photocopies!

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By: punctum https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/05/its-the-word-world-cup-disclaimer-not-really-a-world-cup/comment-page-1#comment-698573 Thu, 13 May 2010 11:27:38 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=18553#comment-698573 I’m not sure I fully trust “things going on recently” and perhaps this is leading me to my inevitable IMac-for-going-on-recently status but think we need to treat history more fairly than the ground floor of the basketball museum in The Sportswriter.

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By: mark sinker https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/05/its-the-word-world-cup-disclaimer-not-really-a-world-cup/comment-page-1#comment-698571 Thu, 13 May 2010 11:26:32 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=18553#comment-698571 (ps punctum my heart is hot with all the things i am soon going to be asking you to photocopy for me!) (don’t worry if not practicable but i WILL ASK)

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By: mark sinker https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/05/its-the-word-world-cup-disclaimer-not-really-a-world-cup/comment-page-1#comment-698569 Thu, 13 May 2010 11:23:43 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=18553#comment-698569 (If others do decide to adopt punctum’s self-denying anti-incest ordinance, can you say so out loud?: I don’t want to skew results away from our own zones of encounter or from things going on recently — or at least, if this is the way we choose to roll, i’d like to be aware… the poll will i hope be about the recent present as well as the fabulous past, and the nature of the internet may mean that the present is more about the energies of the circles we actually ourselves run in)

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By: punctum https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/05/its-the-word-world-cup-disclaimer-not-really-a-world-cup/comment-page-1#comment-698564 Thu, 13 May 2010 10:58:50 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=18553#comment-698564 I’m posting this both here and on LJ (where I’m “Rechabite,” if you hadn’t already figured that out).

My additional self-prohibition rule here is that I am not including any writers I personally know since that prevents the exercise from turning into an incestuous love-in.

The second thing to note is that it’s sometimes wise to go for writers which don’t necessarily agree with the voter.

1:
Danny Baker
Max Harrison
Andre Hodeir
Constant Lambert

2:
Simon Barnes
Philip Larkin
David Thomson
David Foster Wallace

3:
Sidney Finkelstein, Jazz: A People’s Music
Kazuo Ishiguro, Never Let Me Go
Robin Maconie, Other Planets: The Music Of Karlheinz Stockhausen
AB Spellman, Four Lives In The Bebop Business
Nick Tosches, Dino
Valerie Wilmer, As Serious As Your Life

4:
Barney Hoskyns, “Sometimes Pleasure Heads Must Burn – A Manhattan Melodrama (Birthday Party interview),” NME, October 1981
Ian MacDonald and Charles Shaar Murray, reviews of David Bowie’s Low, NME, January 1977
William Mann, “The Beatles revive hope of progress in pop music with their gay new LP (review of Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band),” The Times, May 1967
Richard Williams, review of Carla Bley and Paul Haines’ Escalator Over The Hill, Melody Maker, March 1972

5:
Melody Maker 1986-8
Street Life 1973-6
NME 1981-2

6 (given that the “see” proviso rules out Glenn Gould’s Solitude trilogy):
The Band Wagon
The Double Life Of Veronique
Les Parapluies de Cherbourg
New York, New York
Shadows
Warrendale

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