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	<title>Comments on: STEVE &#8220;SILK&#8221; HURLEY &#8211; &#8220;Jack Your Body&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: AndyPandy</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/steve-silk-hurley-jack-your-body/#comment-677677</link>
		<dc:creator>AndyPandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And give things like Slick&#039;s &quot;Space Bass&quot; and some of Cerrone or Patrick Cowley&#039;s better stuff a bit of tweaking and the dividing line between full on disco from the disco era and early house becomes very blurred and that&#039;s before you add in the missing-link of 3 or 4 years of electro to the equation...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And give things like Slick&#8217;s &#8220;Space Bass&#8221; and some of Cerrone or Patrick Cowley&#8217;s better stuff a bit of tweaking and the dividing line between full on disco from the disco era and early house becomes very blurred and that&#8217;s before you add in the missing-link of 3 or 4 years of electro to the equation&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart P</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/steve-silk-hurley-jack-your-body/#comment-677611</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Put Your Hands Up For Detroit!

Way back at the start of this thread someone said they couldn&#039;t see the link between this and disco...


Well, the bassline is nicked from First Choice&#039;s Let No Man Put Asunder (Probably) the most sampled track ever ...

Bassline is at 3&quot;38 on this version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLrCbkpKZ4Q

Jack Your Body Is still a monster tune and gets em goin&#039; on the dancefloor to this day -</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put Your Hands Up For Detroit!</p>
<p>Way back at the start of this thread someone said they couldn&#8217;t see the link between this and disco&#8230;</p>
<p>Well, the bassline is nicked from First Choice&#8217;s Let No Man Put Asunder (Probably) the most sampled track ever &#8230;</p>
<p>Bassline is at 3&#8243;38 on this version</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLrCbkpKZ4Q" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLrCbkpKZ4Q&amp;referer=');">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLrCbkpKZ4Q</a></p>
<p>Jack Your Body Is still a monster tune and gets em goin&#8217; on the dancefloor to this day -</p>
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		<title>By: richard thompson</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/steve-silk-hurley-jack-your-body/#comment-677595</link>
		<dc:creator>richard thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 11:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t this the last time that TOTP had to make up their own video as it was shown in the night club I went to the next night when they had videotaped the show as by the August they didn&#039;t include the MJ number one then as there was no video to go with it as I  recall Peter Powell telling us, the show had reached a low point by then which I don&#039;t think it got back to or was I just getting older, only the show used lots of videoclips which weren&#039;t played in full of acts famous for fifteen minutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t this the last time that TOTP had to make up their own video as it was shown in the night club I went to the next night when they had videotaped the show as by the August they didn&#8217;t include the MJ number one then as there was no video to go with it as I  recall Peter Powell telling us, the show had reached a low point by then which I don&#8217;t think it got back to or was I just getting older, only the show used lots of videoclips which weren&#8217;t played in full of acts famous for fifteen minutes.</p>
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		<title>By: abaffledrepublic</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/steve-silk-hurley-jack-your-body/#comment-676334</link>
		<dc:creator>abaffledrepublic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 18:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A bit late to this one, I knew it would generate plenty of comment.

This is the first time I&#039;ve seen this sleeve.  My 12&quot; has orange instead of pink and &#039;Jack Attack&#039; in the bottom right corner.  It also has a sticker which informs me that it was named Import of the Year 86 at the Record Mirror Hammy awards.  So there.

According to Pete Tong, who licensed this and many other house tracks, the video footage was used because of the difficulty of finding the Chicago house artists at short notice, and this video was re-edited to promote several subsequent singles by other artists.  In this particular case, Hurley refused to promote the release because the track was two years old by the time it reached number one here.  I daresay its chart success probably caught the label by surprise as well, and it was they who had to knock a video together in short order.  The fact that this music was &#039;faceless techno bollocks&#039; may also have contributed, although that term was several years away from being coined.

As Tom says, a fuller, more traditionally &#039;songful&#039; house track might have been expected to be the first to go all the way.  However, it&#039;s often been the case that the rawer, more obviously machine-driven &#039;trackhead&#039; house/rave/garage records have been the ones that have done the business in the charts.  The Trax label was so named because that was what it released, that so few of its records were &#039;songs&#039; in any traditional sense.  These tunes have been the ones that really make the dancers cut loose and go crazy on the floor, so it&#039;s understandable that there would be more demand for them, and that this would be reflected in a sales-based chart.  At this time, I doubt that house records of any type were getting much airplay or promotion, so any chart successes would have come about almost entirely from dancefloor demand.

As raw as the tune is, those grunts and synth surges give it a surprisingly sensual edge, but it&#039;s a dark sexuality, not the bedroom seduction of a track like Raze&#039;s Break 4 Love.  Perfect for jacking to I guess.

Despite its status as the first house No1, this never seems to turn up on compilations, either of acid house or Now-type pop compilations. I wonder why this is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bit late to this one, I knew it would generate plenty of comment.</p>
<p>This is the first time I&#8217;ve seen this sleeve.  My 12&#8243; has orange instead of pink and &#8216;Jack Attack&#8217; in the bottom right corner.  It also has a sticker which informs me that it was named Import of the Year 86 at the Record Mirror Hammy awards.  So there.</p>
<p>According to Pete Tong, who licensed this and many other house tracks, the video footage was used because of the difficulty of finding the Chicago house artists at short notice, and this video was re-edited to promote several subsequent singles by other artists.  In this particular case, Hurley refused to promote the release because the track was two years old by the time it reached number one here.  I daresay its chart success probably caught the label by surprise as well, and it was they who had to knock a video together in short order.  The fact that this music was &#8216;faceless techno bollocks&#8217; may also have contributed, although that term was several years away from being coined.</p>
<p>As Tom says, a fuller, more traditionally &#8216;songful&#8217; house track might have been expected to be the first to go all the way.  However, it&#8217;s often been the case that the rawer, more obviously machine-driven &#8216;trackhead&#8217; house/rave/garage records have been the ones that have done the business in the charts.  The Trax label was so named because that was what it released, that so few of its records were &#8216;songs&#8217; in any traditional sense.  These tunes have been the ones that really make the dancers cut loose and go crazy on the floor, so it&#8217;s understandable that there would be more demand for them, and that this would be reflected in a sales-based chart.  At this time, I doubt that house records of any type were getting much airplay or promotion, so any chart successes would have come about almost entirely from dancefloor demand.</p>
<p>As raw as the tune is, those grunts and synth surges give it a surprisingly sensual edge, but it&#8217;s a dark sexuality, not the bedroom seduction of a track like Raze&#8217;s Break 4 Love.  Perfect for jacking to I guess.</p>
<p>Despite its status as the first house No1, this never seems to turn up on compilations, either of acid house or Now-type pop compilations. I wonder why this is?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Mannion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Mannion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 15:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I played the first 12&quot; singles I bought I thought they were being played at the wrong speed. And indeed they were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I played the first 12&#8243; singles I bought I thought they were being played at the wrong speed. And indeed they were.</p>
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		<title>By: LondonLee</title>
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		<dc:creator>LondonLee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I first heard Jungle I thought it was being played at the wrong speed.</description>
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		<title>By: glue_factory</title>
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		<dc:creator>glue_factory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure someone posted about the Year Of Mixtapes blog on here, but I can&#039;t find it now. Anyway he&#039;s just posted a rather nice &#039;early Chicago house&#039; mix for anyone who wants to check out more of this stuff (although Jack Your Body isn&#039;t  on it)

http://yearofmixtapes.blogspot.com/2010/02/week-38-chicago-house.html

Keeping with the theme of people playing things at the wrong speed, the next mix is New Beat. Thanks to whoever originally posted about the blog, there&#039;s some great stuff on there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure someone posted about the Year Of Mixtapes blog on here, but I can&#8217;t find it now. Anyway he&#8217;s just posted a rather nice &#8216;early Chicago house&#8217; mix for anyone who wants to check out more of this stuff (although Jack Your Body isn&#8217;t  on it)</p>
<p><a href="http://yearofmixtapes.blogspot.com/2010/02/week-38-chicago-house.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/yearofmixtapes.blogspot.com/2010/02/week-38-chicago-house.html?referer=');">http://yearofmixtapes.blogspot.com/2010/02/week-38-chicago-house.html</a></p>
<p>Keeping with the theme of people playing things at the wrong speed, the next mix is New Beat. Thanks to whoever originally posted about the blog, there&#8217;s some great stuff on there.</p>
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		<title>By: punctum</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/steve-silk-hurley-jack-your-body/#comment-675433</link>
		<dc:creator>punctum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prepared piano, varispeeds, unexpected other instruments wandering in and out at random through her records - Winnie helped invent John Cage.</description>
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		<title>By: wichita lineman</title>
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		<dc:creator>wichita lineman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...or was it Winifred Atwell at 33? (thinks - must try this out).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;or was it Winifred Atwell at 33? (thinks &#8211; must try this out).</p>
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		<title>By: LondonLee</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/steve-silk-hurley-jack-your-body/#comment-675268</link>
		<dc:creator>LondonLee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It all started the day Marshall Jefferson played &#039;Mouldy Old Dough&#039; at 78rpm by mistake...</description>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/steve-silk-hurley-jack-your-body/#comment-675235</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not the most helpful of interventions there Rosie!

I think we&#039;re at &quot;take it to email&quot; on this argument - future posts by Andypandy and DJ P about each other will be deleted.

Future posts about the secret origin of house music entirely welcome of course!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not the most helpful of interventions there Rosie!</p>
<p>I think we&#8217;re at &#8220;take it to email&#8221; on this argument &#8211; future posts by Andypandy and DJ P about each other will be deleted.</p>
<p>Future posts about the secret origin of house music entirely welcome of course!</p>
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		<title>By: punctum</title>
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		<dc:creator>punctum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please acquaint yourself with post #28 on &lt;a href=&quot;http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/09/band-aid-do-they-know-its-christmas/?cp=0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this thread&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ve done what Andy&#039;s done enough times to recognise when somebody else is doing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please acquaint yourself with post #28 on <a href="http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/09/band-aid-do-they-know-its-christmas/?cp=0" rel="nofollow">this thread</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve done what Andy&#8217;s done enough times to recognise when somebody else is doing it.</p>
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		<title>By: rosie</title>
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		<dc:creator>rosie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>X0099-45 ABEND POT CALLING KETTLE BLACK ERROR IN POST 00000093

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		<title>By: punctum</title>
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		<dc:creator>punctum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#86:

The reason I asked the question I asked in post #52 was that your posts generally come across as somewhat aggressive and not a little defensive, as though bearing a long-term grudge against people or things or times unknown.

Forgive me for any presumption but there is a sense of some bitterness and perhaps resentment in what you write here.

I therefore suggested that you might perhaps like to offload whatever it is that&#039;s been tearing your mind apart and hence (a) find some peace in yourself and (b) contribute to these discussions in an appropriate fashion.  I fail to see how this constitutes &quot;personal insults,&quot; even (a) though the latter term is quite frequently shorthand for &quot;things you don&#039;t want to be told even though they may be true&quot; and (b) you seem to feel quite free to bandy about personal insults, as per the two unfounded ones you include in your most recent post.

What you have to say historically would be quite interesting and indeed even fascinating were it delivered in a more considered tone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#86:</p>
<p>The reason I asked the question I asked in post #52 was that your posts generally come across as somewhat aggressive and not a little defensive, as though bearing a long-term grudge against people or things or times unknown.</p>
<p>Forgive me for any presumption but there is a sense of some bitterness and perhaps resentment in what you write here.</p>
<p>I therefore suggested that you might perhaps like to offload whatever it is that&#8217;s been tearing your mind apart and hence (a) find some peace in yourself and (b) contribute to these discussions in an appropriate fashion.  I fail to see how this constitutes &#8220;personal insults,&#8221; even (a) though the latter term is quite frequently shorthand for &#8220;things you don&#8217;t want to be told even though they may be true&#8221; and (b) you seem to feel quite free to bandy about personal insults, as per the two unfounded ones you include in your most recent post.</p>
<p>What you have to say historically would be quite interesting and indeed even fascinating were it delivered in a more considered tone.</p>
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		<title>By: punctum</title>
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		<dc:creator>punctum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Twist?</description>
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		<title>By: rosie</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/steve-silk-hurley-jack-your-body/#comment-674741</link>
		<dc:creator>rosie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lex @ 82:  A long way from the &quot;vertical expression of a horizontal desire&quot; then.  When did partner dancing become &quot;uncool&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lex @ 82:  A long way from the &#8220;vertical expression of a horizontal desire&#8221; then.  When did partner dancing become &#8220;uncool&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: AndyPandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyPandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes I remember Gilles Peterson playing the Special Branch too (very likely saw him on one of the coach trips from my local we had to Tooley Street around then)this venue probably had more connections with the London Acid &#039;Class of &#039;88&#039; than any other club - as besides Rampling I think Nicky Holloway and Johnny Walker* (whom I also saw regularly doing Fridays at the East Arms, Hurley around this time) played there too.Maybe even Phil Perry from the aforementioned Full Circle had connections there too. 

*the member of the 1987 Ibiza posse who supposedly invented the acid dance (you know moving your hands in front of your face etc) not the IMO very cool (ie he was the nearest thing you could have to an embodiment of the 70&#039;s West Coast Steely Dan/Doobie Brothers lovin&#039; mellow guy that could exist and still be in Britain) 70&#039;s Radio One DJ!His autobiography didn&#039;t disabuse me of that notion in the slightest too - well worth a look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I remember Gilles Peterson playing the Special Branch too (very likely saw him on one of the coach trips from my local we had to Tooley Street around then)this venue probably had more connections with the London Acid &#8216;Class of &#8217;88&#8242; than any other club &#8211; as besides Rampling I think Nicky Holloway and Johnny Walker* (whom I also saw regularly doing Fridays at the East Arms, Hurley around this time) played there too.Maybe even Phil Perry from the aforementioned Full Circle had connections there too. </p>
<p>*the member of the 1987 Ibiza posse who supposedly invented the acid dance (you know moving your hands in front of your face etc) not the IMO very cool (ie he was the nearest thing you could have to an embodiment of the 70&#8242;s West Coast Steely Dan/Doobie Brothers lovin&#8217; mellow guy that could exist and still be in Britain) 70&#8242;s Radio One DJ!His autobiography didn&#8217;t disabuse me of that notion in the slightest too &#8211; well worth a look.</p>
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		<title>By: LondonLee</title>
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		<dc:creator>LondonLee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 02:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to work with a bloke who knew Noel Watson so he clued me in to a lot of things that were going on, got me tickets to the VIP bar on their first night at Heaven where I hobnobbed with Boy George and Mick Jones. Well, they were in the same room. But I remember the club was absolutely heaving with people that night, it was obviously the hot new place. I went to Special Branch a few times too, I think Gilles Peterson played there as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to work with a bloke who knew Noel Watson so he clued me in to a lot of things that were going on, got me tickets to the VIP bar on their first night at Heaven where I hobnobbed with Boy George and Mick Jones. Well, they were in the same room. But I remember the club was absolutely heaving with people that night, it was obviously the hot new place. I went to Special Branch a few times too, I think Gilles Peterson played there as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Mannion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Mannion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#87 well Fung could&#039;ve played a couple of things e.g. Jesse Saunders &#039;On And On&#039; (from 83/84) at this Streatham club.</description>
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		<title>By: AndyPandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyPandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee at 41 &amp; 71 and Steve at 65: 

Yeah I forgot about Bobby Byrd &quot;I Know You Got Soul&quot; and you&#039;re damn right that a lot of the old school non-Rare Groove soulboys liked oldies - I think what they used to resent was what rightly or wrongly they perceived as suddenly a few very hyped clubs in Central London were acting like they had discovered tracks which had often been played interspersed with the new stuff at the older clubs for years and even given them this new name &quot;Rare Groove&quot;.  


I&#039;ve heard that Trevor Fung tried to put on a house club as early as 1985! (where were the records!?) the Project in Streatham  - but I believe it flopped. And that&#039;s interesting about Delerium as that often gets left out of the story with everyone always quoting Shoom as the first in town from September (?) 1987.

I know that you really had to be in the know back then though as you could be completely immersed in the club culture back then as I was and literally not know Shoom or Delerium etc existed. In 1987 I remember it was still all Doo At The Zoo (Nicky Holloway), Special Branch and the old places like Flicks in Dartford (soon mentamorhosising into an Acid mecca in 1988).

Like Lee the memory plays tricks though as Danny Rampling was involved in the Special Branch - but he was obviously running Shoom by late 1987!

My own first encounter with Acid house was at Easter 1988 when to much bemusement a load of people turned up at the Bournemouth Weekender in bandanas, longer hair etc -  in hindsight and as Danny Rampling could well have been at at Bournemouth they were probably from Shoom.
When I finally got to Spectrum myself (also at Heaven) in about May 88 I think it had been going a couple of months or so so I suppose they could have also been from there or Delerium if it was still going.

And something that has always seemed mysterious for me is the Belvederes, Ascot (early-mid 80s jazz-funkers Sunday midday thing) and the Full Circle, Colnbrook (post Acid-house Sunday thing)connection as they were very near to each other and I saw many punters and djs at both but didn&#039;t visit either in the 1987-89 period - depending on when they starting playing the house could this be another late entrant in the who was first in London stakes?</description>
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<p>Yeah I forgot about Bobby Byrd &#8220;I Know You Got Soul&#8221; and you&#8217;re damn right that a lot of the old school non-Rare Groove soulboys liked oldies &#8211; I think what they used to resent was what rightly or wrongly they perceived as suddenly a few very hyped clubs in Central London were acting like they had discovered tracks which had often been played interspersed with the new stuff at the older clubs for years and even given them this new name &#8220;Rare Groove&#8221;.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard that Trevor Fung tried to put on a house club as early as 1985! (where were the records!?) the Project in Streatham  &#8211; but I believe it flopped. And that&#8217;s interesting about Delerium as that often gets left out of the story with everyone always quoting Shoom as the first in town from September (?) 1987.</p>
<p>I know that you really had to be in the know back then though as you could be completely immersed in the club culture back then as I was and literally not know Shoom or Delerium etc existed. In 1987 I remember it was still all Doo At The Zoo (Nicky Holloway), Special Branch and the old places like Flicks in Dartford (soon mentamorhosising into an Acid mecca in 1988).</p>
<p>Like Lee the memory plays tricks though as Danny Rampling was involved in the Special Branch &#8211; but he was obviously running Shoom by late 1987!</p>
<p>My own first encounter with Acid house was at Easter 1988 when to much bemusement a load of people turned up at the Bournemouth Weekender in bandanas, longer hair etc &#8211;  in hindsight and as Danny Rampling could well have been at at Bournemouth they were probably from Shoom.<br />
When I finally got to Spectrum myself (also at Heaven) in about May 88 I think it had been going a couple of months or so so I suppose they could have also been from there or Delerium if it was still going.</p>
<p>And something that has always seemed mysterious for me is the Belvederes, Ascot (early-mid 80s jazz-funkers Sunday midday thing) and the Full Circle, Colnbrook (post Acid-house Sunday thing)connection as they were very near to each other and I saw many punters and djs at both but didn&#8217;t visit either in the 1987-89 period &#8211; depending on when they starting playing the house could this be another late entrant in the who was first in London stakes?</p>
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		<title>By: AndyPandy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Punctum @ 52: &quot;a moan about mythological and largely non-existent London tastemakers&quot; precisely your argument made a ridiculous generalisation about London clubbers being wholly comprised of such mythological figures. 

You haven&#039;t changed have you? once again as so many times before you are unable to refrain from straying into the area of making personal insults directed at another poster.

Something that is almost invariably unpleasant and pointless and I try to avoid at all costs but on this occasion and your ridiculous final line it needs answering in kind.

Admittedly - that is until you start venturing into areas you don&#039;t really know anything about- your pieces are often well written and interesting.

However your lack of self-awareness is something to behold and stunningly shown here in your lame attempt to delve into &#039;psychology&#039; to make, what I imagine you believe to be some lacerating insult, when I think it was made amply apparent some time ago that your own overall arrogance really does border on the pathological.

I apologise to Tom for having to include the above in a post but I think such an unacceptable attitude needs questioning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Punctum @ 52: &#8220;a moan about mythological and largely non-existent London tastemakers&#8221; precisely your argument made a ridiculous generalisation about London clubbers being wholly comprised of such mythological figures. </p>
<p>You haven&#8217;t changed have you? once again as so many times before you are unable to refrain from straying into the area of making personal insults directed at another poster.</p>
<p>Something that is almost invariably unpleasant and pointless and I try to avoid at all costs but on this occasion and your ridiculous final line it needs answering in kind.</p>
<p>Admittedly &#8211; that is until you start venturing into areas you don&#8217;t really know anything about- your pieces are often well written and interesting.</p>
<p>However your lack of self-awareness is something to behold and stunningly shown here in your lame attempt to delve into &#8216;psychology&#8217; to make, what I imagine you believe to be some lacerating insult, when I think it was made amply apparent some time ago that your own overall arrogance really does border on the pathological.</p>
<p>I apologise to Tom for having to include the above in a post but I think such an unacceptable attitude needs questioning.</p>
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		<title>By: Erithian</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Punctumesque”?  Call the OED, we’ve got a good one for them…

To tell the truth, the word “jacking” immediately called to mind a story told by a member of Dr Hook in a “Sounds” interview in the 70s.  Speaking of going to confession as a youngster, he recalled:
I didn’t know how to explain masturbation to a priest, so I just said ‘I did something’.  He said ‘Was it with a girl?’ – ‘No.’ ‘Was it with another boy?’ – ‘No – (gulp) it was with myself’.  So he said, ‘Oh, you mean jackin’ off.  Say two Hail Marys and here’s a jar of Vaseline.’</description>
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<p>To tell the truth, the word “jacking” immediately called to mind a story told by a member of Dr Hook in a “Sounds” interview in the 70s.  Speaking of going to confession as a youngster, he recalled:<br />
I didn’t know how to explain masturbation to a priest, so I just said ‘I did something’.  He said ‘Was it with a girl?’ – ‘No.’ ‘Was it with another boy?’ – ‘No – (gulp) it was with myself’.  So he said, ‘Oh, you mean jackin’ off.  Say two Hail Marys and here’s a jar of Vaseline.’</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Mannion</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Izzy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m no dancer, still less a jacker, but I do find it amusing how some of the entries for different styles make such a big thing of terminology.  The entry for &#039;B-boying&#039; starts off &lt;i&gt;&quot;Though widespread, the term &quot;breakdancing&quot; is looked down upon by those immersed in hip-hop culture&quot;&lt;/i&gt;, then continues with a punctumesque 500 words on exactly what&#039;s wrong with it.

All this even though the entry itself is the main one in the category &#039;Breakdancing&#039;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no dancer, still less a jacker, but I do find it amusing how some of the entries for different styles make such a big thing of terminology.  The entry for &#8216;B-boying&#8217; starts off <i>&#8220;Though widespread, the term &#8220;breakdancing&#8221; is looked down upon by those immersed in hip-hop culture&#8221;</i>, then continues with a punctumesque 500 words on exactly what&#8217;s wrong with it.</p>
<p>All this even though the entry itself is the main one in the category &#8216;Breakdancing&#8217;!</p>
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		<title>By: lex</title>
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		<dc:creator>lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGwzoJ7LFMs&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; is how you dance to house music! And there&#039;s a Wikipedia page on &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacking&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;jacking&lt;/a&gt; specifically. It&#039;s a lot of fun to do, though it always makes me sad that British people tend to be so upper-body focused when it comes to dancing; often I wonder whether they realise they have hips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGwzoJ7LFMs" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGwzoJ7LFMs&amp;referer=');">This</a> is how you dance to house music! And there&#8217;s a Wikipedia page on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacking" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacking?referer=');">jacking</a> specifically. It&#8217;s a lot of fun to do, though it always makes me sad that British people tend to be so upper-body focused when it comes to dancing; often I wonder whether they realise they have hips.</p>
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