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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/popular-86/#comment-698192</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 10:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;not linked to other Popular posts&quot;

yikes. fixed</description>
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<p>yikes. fixed</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Smart</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/popular-86/#comment-698186</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Smart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 09:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/05/popular-87/ 

- but not linked to other Popular posts...</description>
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<p>- but not linked to other Popular posts&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rory</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/popular-86/#comment-698184</link>
		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 09:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we haz Popular &#039;87 poll?</description>
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		<title>By: Billy Smart</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/popular-86/#comment-697835</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Smart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 15:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melody Maker readers&#039; poll for 1986;

1. The Smiths - Panic
2. The Mission - Serpent&#039;s Kiss
3. The Jesus &amp; Mary Chain - Some Candy Talking
4. Peter Gabriel - Sledgehammer
5. Prince - Kiss
6. The Housemartins - Happy Hour
7. BAD - E=MC2
8. The Smiths - Bigmouth Strikes Again
9. The Age Of Chance - Kiss
10. Bon Jovi - Livin&#039; On A Prayer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melody Maker readers&#8217; poll for 1986;</p>
<p>1. The Smiths &#8211; Panic<br />
2. The Mission &#8211; Serpent&#8217;s Kiss<br />
3. The Jesus &amp; Mary Chain &#8211; Some Candy Talking<br />
4. Peter Gabriel &#8211; Sledgehammer<br />
5. Prince &#8211; Kiss<br />
6. The Housemartins &#8211; Happy Hour<br />
7. BAD &#8211; E=MC2<br />
8. The Smiths &#8211; Bigmouth Strikes Again<br />
9. The Age Of Chance &#8211; Kiss<br />
10. Bon Jovi &#8211; Livin&#8217; On A Prayer</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Smart</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/popular-86/#comment-697834</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Smart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 15:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NME readers&#039; poll for 1986;

1. The Smiths - Panic
2. Prince - Kisss
3. The The - Heartland
4. The Smiths - Ask
5. Billy Bragg - Levi Stubbs&#039; Tears
6. The Housemartins - Happy Hour
7. The Jesus &amp; Mary Chain - Some Candy Talking
8. Elvis Costello &amp; The Attractions - I Want You
9. Sonic Youth - Into The Groovey
10. The Age Of Chance - Kiss
11. The Shop Assistants - Safety Net
12. Cameo - Word Up
13. The Smiths - Bigmouth Strikes Again
14. The Fall - Mr Pharmacist
15. Primal Scream - Velocity Girl
16. PiL - Rise
17. Julian Cope - World Shut Your Mouth
18. Run DMC - Walk This Way
19. Peter Gabriel - Sledgehammer
20. The Weather Prophets - Almost Prayed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NME readers&#8217; poll for 1986;</p>
<p>1. The Smiths &#8211; Panic<br />
2. Prince &#8211; Kisss<br />
3. The The &#8211; Heartland<br />
4. The Smiths &#8211; Ask<br />
5. Billy Bragg &#8211; Levi Stubbs&#8217; Tears<br />
6. The Housemartins &#8211; Happy Hour<br />
7. The Jesus &amp; Mary Chain &#8211; Some Candy Talking<br />
8. Elvis Costello &amp; The Attractions &#8211; I Want You<br />
9. Sonic Youth &#8211; Into The Groovey<br />
10. The Age Of Chance &#8211; Kiss<br />
11. The Shop Assistants &#8211; Safety Net<br />
12. Cameo &#8211; Word Up<br />
13. The Smiths &#8211; Bigmouth Strikes Again<br />
14. The Fall &#8211; Mr Pharmacist<br />
15. Primal Scream &#8211; Velocity Girl<br />
16. PiL &#8211; Rise<br />
17. Julian Cope &#8211; World Shut Your Mouth<br />
18. Run DMC &#8211; Walk This Way<br />
19. Peter Gabriel &#8211; Sledgehammer<br />
20. The Weather Prophets &#8211; Almost Prayed</p>
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		<title>By: swanstep</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/popular-86/#comment-675040</link>
		<dc:creator>swanstep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 02:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops again! In-Popular-time, it&#039;s the 25th ann. of Tallulah&#039;s release in the next few weeks. In the real world that would of course be in 2012. I&#039;ll shut up now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops again! In-Popular-time, it&#8217;s the 25th ann. of Tallulah&#8217;s release in the next few weeks. In the real world that would of course be in 2012. I&#8217;ll shut up now.</p>
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		<title>By: swanstep</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/popular-86/#comment-675027</link>
		<dc:creator>swanstep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 23:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rory. Oops, yes you are right: released 14 February *1985*. I won&#039;t bother reposting. 

Note that the 25th ann. of the release of the Go-betweens&#039; Tallulah must be sometime in the next few weeks. That record had a nuclear impact on a generation of smartie undergrads down under...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rory. Oops, yes you are right: released 14 February *1985*. I won&#8217;t bother reposting. </p>
<p>Note that the 25th ann. of the release of the Go-betweens&#8217; Tallulah must be sometime in the next few weeks. That record had a nuclear impact on a generation of smartie undergrads down under&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rory</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/popular-86/#comment-675005</link>
		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 21:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, one for the Popular &#039;85 thread, swanstep?</description>
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		<title>By: swanstep</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/popular-86/#comment-674998</link>
		<dc:creator>swanstep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 20:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Smiths released &lt;i&gt;Meat Is Murder&lt;/i&gt; 25 years ago today (14 February 1986). &lt;a href=&quot;http://stereogum.com/archives/meat_is_murder_turns_25_113481.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Stereogum&lt;/a&gt; has a story. &#039;Well I wonder&#039; gets the most attention from reminiscers...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Smiths released <i>Meat Is Murder</i> 25 years ago today (14 February 1986). <a href="http://stereogum.com/archives/meat_is_murder_turns_25_113481.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/stereogum.com/archives/meat_is_murder_turns_25_113481.html?referer=');"> Stereogum</a> has a story. &#8216;Well I wonder&#8217; gets the most attention from reminiscers&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Smart</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/popular-86/#comment-674452</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Smart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Halley&#039;s Comet&#039; by Chas &amp; Dave sadly failed to trouble the Top 100 in 1986. Which is probably why I&#039;ve never heard it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Halley&#8217;s Comet&#8217; by Chas &amp; Dave sadly failed to trouble the Top 100 in 1986. Which is probably why I&#8217;ve never heard it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rory</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/popular-86/#comment-674447</link>
		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obliquely indeed, Erithian. A couple of pages about Halley&#039;s-related songs &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blurtit.com/q279043.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://dropsoflight.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, for some definition of &quot;hit&quot;. Shinedown&#039;s &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chance_%28Shinedown_song%29&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Second&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/s/shinedown/second_chance.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Chance&lt;/a&gt;&quot; seems the biggest, but arrived 22 years late.

Re the Waterboys, I didn&#039;t get much further than the single either; the parent album is okay, but &lt;i&gt;Fisherman&#039;s Blues&lt;/i&gt; didn&#039;t really float my boat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obliquely indeed, Erithian. A couple of pages about Halley&#8217;s-related songs <a href="http://www.blurtit.com/q279043.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.blurtit.com/q279043.html?referer=');">here</a> and <a href="http://dropsoflight.com/" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/dropsoflight.com/?referer=');">here</a>, for some definition of &#8220;hit&#8221;. Shinedown&#8217;s &#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chance_%28Shinedown_song%29" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chance_28Shinedown_song_29?referer=');">Second</a> <a href="http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/s/shinedown/second_chance.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/s/shinedown/second_chance.html?referer=');">Chance</a>&#8221; seems the biggest, but arrived 22 years late.</p>
<p>Re the Waterboys, I didn&#8217;t get much further than the single either; the parent album is okay, but <i>Fisherman&#8217;s Blues</i> didn&#8217;t really float my boat.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/popular-86/#comment-674446</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blimey 17 votes for Chris De Burgh!</description>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/popular-86/#comment-674445</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Whole Of The Moon&quot; - and that whole album - was definitely the breakout hit of 1986 at my new school: about the only contemporary record to cut through the Dylan and ELP (!!??:):)) the older boys played.

I quite like TWOTM but have always found the Waterboys a bit too wide-eyed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Whole Of The Moon&#8221; &#8211; and that whole album &#8211; was definitely the breakout hit of 1986 at my new school: about the only contemporary record to cut through the Dylan and ELP (!!??:):)) the older boys played.</p>
<p>I quite like TWOTM but have always found the Waterboys a bit too wide-eyed.</p>
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		<title>By: Erithian</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/popular-86/#comment-674443</link>
		<dc:creator>Erithian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was &quot;The Whole Of The Moon&quot; the only hit record to refer (albeit obliquely and in one line) to the appearance of Halley&#039;s Comet?  Halley (or rather Haley) and Comets are resonant names in pop for obvious reasons, but the real Halley&#039;s Comet itself put in an appearance in the skies in early 1986 (and won&#039;t be back until 2061, thanks Wiki).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was &#8220;The Whole Of The Moon&#8221; the only hit record to refer (albeit obliquely and in one line) to the appearance of Halley&#8217;s Comet?  Halley (or rather Haley) and Comets are resonant names in pop for obvious reasons, but the real Halley&#8217;s Comet itself put in an appearance in the skies in early 1986 (and won&#8217;t be back until 2061, thanks Wiki).</p>
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		<title>By: Rory</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/popular-86/#comment-674432</link>
		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here were Australia&#039;s number ones for 1986, some of which were UK hits in 1985 and one which arrived here in 1987.

Midnight Oil, Species Deceases (EP), 6 weeks (2 in 1986)
Starship, &quot;We Built This City&quot;, 2 weeks
Whitney Houston, &quot;Saving All My Love for You&quot;, 2 weeks
Feargal Sharkey, &quot;A Good Heart&quot;, 2 weeks
Dionne Warwick with Gladys Knight, Elton John &amp; Stevie Wonder, &quot;That&#039;s What Friends Are For&quot;, 1 week
Billy Ocean, &quot;When the Going Gets Tough, the Tough Get Going&quot;, 6 weeks
Diana Ross, &quot;Chain Reaction&quot;, 3 weeks
Cliff Richard and The Young Ones, &quot;Living Doll&quot;, 6 weeks
Robert Palmer, &quot;Addicted to Love&quot;, 2 weeks
Samantha Fox, &quot;Touch Me (I Want Your Body)&quot;, 3 weeks
Whitney Houston, &quot;Greatest Love of All&quot;, 1 week
Madonna, &quot;Papa Don&#039;t Preach&quot;, 6 weeks
Bananarama, &quot;Venus&quot;, 7 weeks
John Farnham, &quot;You&#039;re the Voice&quot;, 7 weeks
Pseudo Echo, &quot;Funkytown&quot;, 7 weeks (2 in 1986)

Robert Palmer, Bananarama and John Farnham are the most noteworthy differences, and Samantha Fox&#039;s single could also have made for a good Popular discussion around &#039;80s tabloids and the page three phenomenon. (One of our local record reviewers at the time: &quot;Why does Samantha Fox want my body? She seems to have a perfectly adequate one of her own.&quot;)

But if I were to name one single that encapsulated 1986 for me it would be the Waterboys&#039; &quot;The Whole of the Moon&quot;, which was first released in late 1985 in the UK and reached number 12 in Australia in 1986. It instantly brings back memories of sitting in the Sound Lounge of the student union during my first year at uni, a place where I discovered all sorts of weird stuff in its tape collection. (A lot of &#039;70s prog, mainly, which mercifully didn&#039;t take.) The twelve-inch singles of that and Midnight Oil&#039;s &quot;The Dead Heart&quot; were two treasured purchases that year.

That &quot;The Whole of the Moon&quot; wouldn&#039;t chart strongly in the UK until five years later says something about how out-of-step my tastes were becoming with your and our charts. Apart from the Pet Shop Boys, a-ha and &quot;Living Doll&quot;, I don&#039;t own any of the 1986 UK number ones (&quot;Papa Don&#039;t Preach&quot; might be buried on a tape from a friend somewhere, but Madonna has largely been a blind spot for me, with one or two exceptions). Nonetheless, I seem to have given 6 or more to eight of them - all of those plus George Michael, Falco, Berlin and Jackie Wilson - which seems too generous for what felt like a dud year at the top, then and now.</description>
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<p>Midnight Oil, Species Deceases (EP), 6 weeks (2 in 1986)<br />
Starship, &#8220;We Built This City&#8221;, 2 weeks<br />
Whitney Houston, &#8220;Saving All My Love for You&#8221;, 2 weeks<br />
Feargal Sharkey, &#8220;A Good Heart&#8221;, 2 weeks<br />
Dionne Warwick with Gladys Knight, Elton John &amp; Stevie Wonder, &#8220;That&#8217;s What Friends Are For&#8221;, 1 week<br />
Billy Ocean, &#8220;When the Going Gets Tough, the Tough Get Going&#8221;, 6 weeks<br />
Diana Ross, &#8220;Chain Reaction&#8221;, 3 weeks<br />
Cliff Richard and The Young Ones, &#8220;Living Doll&#8221;, 6 weeks<br />
Robert Palmer, &#8220;Addicted to Love&#8221;, 2 weeks<br />
Samantha Fox, &#8220;Touch Me (I Want Your Body)&#8221;, 3 weeks<br />
Whitney Houston, &#8220;Greatest Love of All&#8221;, 1 week<br />
Madonna, &#8220;Papa Don&#8217;t Preach&#8221;, 6 weeks<br />
Bananarama, &#8220;Venus&#8221;, 7 weeks<br />
John Farnham, &#8220;You&#8217;re the Voice&#8221;, 7 weeks<br />
Pseudo Echo, &#8220;Funkytown&#8221;, 7 weeks (2 in 1986)</p>
<p>Robert Palmer, Bananarama and John Farnham are the most noteworthy differences, and Samantha Fox&#8217;s single could also have made for a good Popular discussion around &#8217;80s tabloids and the page three phenomenon. (One of our local record reviewers at the time: &#8220;Why does Samantha Fox want my body? She seems to have a perfectly adequate one of her own.&#8221;)</p>
<p>But if I were to name one single that encapsulated 1986 for me it would be the Waterboys&#8217; &#8220;The Whole of the Moon&#8221;, which was first released in late 1985 in the UK and reached number 12 in Australia in 1986. It instantly brings back memories of sitting in the Sound Lounge of the student union during my first year at uni, a place where I discovered all sorts of weird stuff in its tape collection. (A lot of &#8217;70s prog, mainly, which mercifully didn&#8217;t take.) The twelve-inch singles of that and Midnight Oil&#8217;s &#8220;The Dead Heart&#8221; were two treasured purchases that year.</p>
<p>That &#8220;The Whole of the Moon&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t chart strongly in the UK until five years later says something about how out-of-step my tastes were becoming with your and our charts. Apart from the Pet Shop Boys, a-ha and &#8220;Living Doll&#8221;, I don&#8217;t own any of the 1986 UK number ones (&#8220;Papa Don&#8217;t Preach&#8221; might be buried on a tape from a friend somewhere, but Madonna has largely been a blind spot for me, with one or two exceptions). Nonetheless, I seem to have given 6 or more to eight of them &#8211; all of those plus George Michael, Falco, Berlin and Jackie Wilson &#8211; which seems too generous for what felt like a dud year at the top, then and now.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/popular-86/#comment-673532</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 14:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Rob!

Loving the house discussion on here - I was really hoping to spark a bit more with the next entry but it&#039;s not going to happen this side of next week, I&#039;m afraid: I&#039;m writing a conference paper, already overdue, and it&#039;s slow going...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Rob!</p>
<p>Loving the house discussion on here &#8211; I was really hoping to spark a bit more with the next entry but it&#8217;s not going to happen this side of next week, I&#8217;m afraid: I&#8217;m writing a conference paper, already overdue, and it&#8217;s slow going&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/popular-86/#comment-673530</link>
		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 14:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t know where else to post this, but just wanted to say, Tom, that I just read your latest Poptimist piece. Another brilliant piece of writing. Great stuff.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know where else to post this, but just wanted to say, Tom, that I just read your latest Poptimist piece. Another brilliant piece of writing. Great stuff.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: glue_factory</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/popular-86/#comment-673490</link>
		<dc:creator>glue_factory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 10:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks swanstep/Londonlee/Andypandy, although I was a big fan of this era of stuff, I was a shy, non-club-going, 17-year old, listening to my House Sound Of Chicago box set in my bedroom, somewhat divorced from how the music was enjoyed/consumed in the wider world. It&#039;s interesting to get a bigger picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks swanstep/Londonlee/Andypandy, although I was a big fan of this era of stuff, I was a shy, non-club-going, 17-year old, listening to my House Sound Of Chicago box set in my bedroom, somewhat divorced from how the music was enjoyed/consumed in the wider world. It&#8217;s interesting to get a bigger picture.</p>
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		<title>By: thefatgit</title>
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		<dc:creator>thefatgit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 10:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>swanstep...what a great site! I shall be dipping in regularly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>swanstep&#8230;what a great site! I shall be dipping in regularly.</p>
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		<title>By: swanstep</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/popular-86/#comment-673461</link>
		<dc:creator>swanstep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 02:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the useful mixtape blog link &lt;a href=&quot;http://yearofmixtapes.blogspot.com/&quot;&gt;again&lt;/a&gt; (working this time I hope).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the useful mixtape blog link <a href="http://yearofmixtapes.blogspot.com/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/yearofmixtapes.blogspot.com/?referer=');">again</a> (working this time I hope).</p>
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		<title>By: LondonLee</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/popular-86/#comment-673458</link>
		<dc:creator>LondonLee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 02:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My preference was for the other end of the House spectrum, the more blatantly disco stuff I guess you&#039;d call it - &#039;Love Can&#039;t Turn Around&#039; blew me away but I never really loved &#039;Baby Wants A Ride&#039; and, as you said, a lot of those really early Trax releases were very primitive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My preference was for the other end of the House spectrum, the more blatantly disco stuff I guess you&#8217;d call it &#8211; &#8216;Love Can&#8217;t Turn Around&#8217; blew me away but I never really loved &#8216;Baby Wants A Ride&#8217; and, as you said, a lot of those really early Trax releases were very primitive.</p>
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		<title>By: swanstep</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/popular-86/#comment-673434</link>
		<dc:creator>swanstep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 23:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andypandy. My sense at the time was that House was just too minimalist, not musical enough for most people. If you specifically liked being part of underground scenes that would never grow then it was for you (and for no one else) was the basic vibe. A lot of people, myself included, quite liked the more &#039;ominous&#039; end of House (Adonis &#039;No way back&#039;, Hercules &quot;7 ways&#039;) because of the extra attention it gave the vocals, but the mega-trendy House clubs and parties of 1987 seemed to go out of their way to not play this stuff, and instead played only the most monotonous things for hours. If you were there in a group, it was simply a nightmare - the least adventurous person would throw a fit if they had to listen to this s**t for more than 5 minutes. You know the drill. The early House wave burned a lot of people like this in my experience. A certain sort of club music didn&#039;t want interlopers, and the interlopers took the hint... Vaguely relatedly, I&#039;ve found &lt;a&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; mix-tape blog fantastic for filling in my own (vast!) gaps in dance/club music knowledge (i.e., wanna get a basic backgrounder on ambient jungle? on happy hard-core? And so on. It&#039;s there.).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andypandy. My sense at the time was that House was just too minimalist, not musical enough for most people. If you specifically liked being part of underground scenes that would never grow then it was for you (and for no one else) was the basic vibe. A lot of people, myself included, quite liked the more &#8216;ominous&#8217; end of House (Adonis &#8216;No way back&#8217;, Hercules &#8220;7 ways&#8217;) because of the extra attention it gave the vocals, but the mega-trendy House clubs and parties of 1987 seemed to go out of their way to not play this stuff, and instead played only the most monotonous things for hours. If you were there in a group, it was simply a nightmare &#8211; the least adventurous person would throw a fit if they had to listen to this s**t for more than 5 minutes. You know the drill. The early House wave burned a lot of people like this in my experience. A certain sort of club music didn&#8217;t want interlopers, and the interlopers took the hint&#8230; Vaguely relatedly, I&#8217;ve found <a>this</a> mix-tape blog fantastic for filling in my own (vast!) gaps in dance/club music knowledge (i.e., wanna get a basic backgrounder on ambient jungle? on happy hard-core? And so on. It&#8217;s there.).</p>
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		<title>By: AndyPandy</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/popular-86/#comment-673394</link>
		<dc:creator>AndyPandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back pre-1988 although your mainstream High street discos played a bit of out and out pop music a lot of the stuff played even in these places (at least since the days of disco) was dance-y stuff you&#039;d never hear on the radio (aside from the pirates) and either didn&#039;t feature in the charts at all or only in the positions 41-75.With the occasional track on the back of club play only and despite the radio &#039;embargo&#039;emerging to become a big pop hit.

In 1986/87 house was originally just looked on as a more starkly electronic version of the disco-ey funk that you&#039;d hear in the average mainstream club surrounding the blatant pop.

Some of the more adventurous djs in the specialist funk/soul/hiphop clubs would drop a bit and it started to appear amongst the standard stuff on the pirates too. Although Jazzy M had the first house only show other tracks could still be heard on more old style shows occasionally. But if you wanted to hear it in a club environment you just went to you mainstream club and you could guarantee hearing something like &quot;Jack Your Body&quot;, or something by Raze, Nitro Deluxe, Jack n Chill, House Engineers etc.

But by mid-1987 after the initial influx of house hits it did begin to look like as far as the UK was concerned it had just been the latest dance craze - now on the wane.

It was only the a certain set of circumstances the next year that made it the progenitor of so much more.   

Paradoxically despite my point above about mainstream clubs.
1986/87 was also the time when in this country Afro-Caribbeans still made up a significant proportion of its listeners (via the pirates and inner city blacks dominated clubs) - I had first hand experience of this through a black bloke I worked with at the time who used to go on about &quot;Let&#039;s Get Brutal&quot; when I still knew it only as the commercial UK 12 inch I had called &quot;This Brutal House&quot; (bloody hell did I think that one was an extreme track at the time!).

Aside from a few djs and an influx with Hardcore for some reason British blacks were virtually uninterested by the time Acid House started in 1988.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back pre-1988 although your mainstream High street discos played a bit of out and out pop music a lot of the stuff played even in these places (at least since the days of disco) was dance-y stuff you&#8217;d never hear on the radio (aside from the pirates) and either didn&#8217;t feature in the charts at all or only in the positions 41-75.With the occasional track on the back of club play only and despite the radio &#8216;embargo&#8217;emerging to become a big pop hit.</p>
<p>In 1986/87 house was originally just looked on as a more starkly electronic version of the disco-ey funk that you&#8217;d hear in the average mainstream club surrounding the blatant pop.</p>
<p>Some of the more adventurous djs in the specialist funk/soul/hiphop clubs would drop a bit and it started to appear amongst the standard stuff on the pirates too. Although Jazzy M had the first house only show other tracks could still be heard on more old style shows occasionally. But if you wanted to hear it in a club environment you just went to you mainstream club and you could guarantee hearing something like &#8220;Jack Your Body&#8221;, or something by Raze, Nitro Deluxe, Jack n Chill, House Engineers etc.</p>
<p>But by mid-1987 after the initial influx of house hits it did begin to look like as far as the UK was concerned it had just been the latest dance craze &#8211; now on the wane.</p>
<p>It was only the a certain set of circumstances the next year that made it the progenitor of so much more.   </p>
<p>Paradoxically despite my point above about mainstream clubs.<br />
1986/87 was also the time when in this country Afro-Caribbeans still made up a significant proportion of its listeners (via the pirates and inner city blacks dominated clubs) &#8211; I had first hand experience of this through a black bloke I worked with at the time who used to go on about &#8220;Let&#8217;s Get Brutal&#8221; when I still knew it only as the commercial UK 12 inch I had called &#8220;This Brutal House&#8221; (bloody hell did I think that one was an extreme track at the time!).</p>
<p>Aside from a few djs and an influx with Hardcore for some reason British blacks were virtually uninterested by the time Acid House started in 1988.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Mannion</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/popular-86/#comment-673389</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Mannion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Easy Lady&#039; is actually not bad. I&#039;ve not heard the other Italians in there (er, not including Madonna).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Easy Lady&#8217; is actually not bad. I&#8217;ve not heard the other Italians in there (er, not including Madonna).</p>
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		<title>By: wichita lineman</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/02/popular-86/#comment-673377</link>
		<dc:creator>wichita lineman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 17:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Italy, those 1986 no.1s:

Arcadia - Election Day
A-Ha - Take On Me
Via Verdi - Diamond
Eros Ramazzotti - Adesso Tu
Joe Cocker - You Can Leave Your Hat On
Madonna - Live To Tell (10 weeks)
Tracy Spencer - Run To Me
Madonna - Papa Don&#039;t Preach
Spagna - Easy Lady
Gianna Nannini - Bello e Impossibile
Duran Duran - Notorious
Europe - The Final Countdown</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Italy, those 1986 no.1s:</p>
<p>Arcadia &#8211; Election Day<br />
A-Ha &#8211; Take On Me<br />
Via Verdi &#8211; Diamond<br />
Eros Ramazzotti &#8211; Adesso Tu<br />
Joe Cocker &#8211; You Can Leave Your Hat On<br />
Madonna &#8211; Live To Tell (10 weeks)<br />
Tracy Spencer &#8211; Run To Me<br />
Madonna &#8211; Papa Don&#8217;t Preach<br />
Spagna &#8211; Easy Lady<br />
Gianna Nannini &#8211; Bello e Impossibile<br />
Duran Duran &#8211; Notorious<br />
Europe &#8211; The Final Countdown</p>
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