Comments on: Pop World Cup 2010: Group A – South Africa 2 Mexico 1

By: Steve Mannion

Steve Mannion — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:19:26 +0000

Terrific attendance for this opening match and the France game, really hope this continues all the way to the final.

By: Tom Schaller

Tom Schaller — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:34:26 +0000

Congratulations to my worthy opponents. I expected to get walloped the way the crowd seemed to turn against us, so a narrow defeat is something I’m happy enough to swallow and learn from.

By: Tom

Tom — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:58:23 +0000

Don’t worry, happy to close the polls manually!

By: admin

admin — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:57:11 +0000

i’ll try to update the plugin – it’s way behind because it’s one that i have hacked to allow us to do these ‘blind ballot’ style polls. that might fix it – but the developer is no longer updating his plugins (big news in the WP world that)

By: Tom

Tom — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:46:17 +0000

Yes, of course it appeared the second I posted the comment. The timed close function isn’t working tho – was meant to end at 11.59 last night.

By: admin

admin — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:36:01 +0000

looks ok here. 60-40 win for SA

By: Tom

Tom — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:48:38 +0000

Closed the poll on this but it’s not displaying, hmm.

By: Steve Mannion

Steve Mannion — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:09:49 +0000

Have to hand it to the hosts here. A bright and sturdy start, encouraging for their tournament prospects. Mexico have potential but perhaps they’re relying on a style of play not to my tastes, or just unsuccessful in attempting a fluid pass n’ move game, then bickering with the ref too much. I find them too annoying and charmless on this occasion but I feel they can improve.

By: Matt DC

Matt DC — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:46:00 +0000

Crowd sizes are a lot bigger in this tournament than in the Euros – both ties already have 40+ votes.

By: Tom

Tom — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:19:02 +0000

Hopefully the positive reaction to the South Africa performance will silence the press campaign for the manager to play Die Antwoord.

By: Garry

Garry — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:38:37 +0000

Mexico seem to be playing to their traditional strengths with a hint of winking pisstake, while SA have been importing formations from abroad. I’m hoping for a draw, as neither seem to do justice to their country.

By: Gus

Gus — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:21:12 +0000

Both good tracks. If you have a little background with Mexican music you can pick up on the pastiche elements of the Café Tacuba track. It’s quite exagerated in its style, and its vocals are quite funny in parts. Perhaps not the best choice from the band for this competition though. Playing to the folks back home, but not necessarily getting the job done on the pitch. I personally prefer it to the South African track, but I think a draw would be a fair result in this one.

By: Tom

Tom — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:00:18 +0000

RSA is 2004, according to this Kelefa Sanneh piece: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/07/arts/critic-s-notebook-a-son-of-soweto-ignites-rap.html?pagewanted=1

By: lex

lex — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:45:31 +0000

The RSA track is a banger. If I’m moved to download a track, that’s a winner right there. Not perfect – a touch too long, and when did it come out? If an American act had come out with that recently it’d come off as wannabe-dated-Timbalandisms. But in this context that’s not a factor and it’s at least a solid 7/10.

MEX dude’s voice actually not as horrible as I was fearing from the comments, but still pretty bad, especially when he starts whining. Emo vocals over what sounds like the kind of stuff Mexicans would play for tourists = no thank you, 3/10.

By: koganbot

koganbot — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:56:02 +0000

South Africans go for nonstop footplay with relentless force in the middle. Mexico counters with misdirection and fakery. The problem for the Mexicans is that, while entertaining themselves vastly, they can’t seem to get the foot on the ball. Matt’s right about SA not really having a striker, but they don’t need one since they’re playing around the opponent’s goal so much that the ball keeps going in, almost of its own accord.

(At the time of “La Ingrata” I was into Caifanes and Fobia while considering Cafe Tacuba cold and I haven’t really kept up, though obnoxious guy here does bring heat with his nasality, so perhaps I would like Tacuba more than I had if I were to revisit them. They ran up against a strong South African effort.)

By: Adrian

Adrian — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:24:59 +0000

I’m going for Mexico in this bout for sheer jauntiness.

This keeps the festive opening ceremony* spirit alive. (*Where was the opening ceremony? Pyrotechnics and synchronised dancers with ribbons are called for!)

By: Matt DC

Matt DC — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:58:33 +0000

The jury’s currently out here as well. The pre-match hype had made me think the Mexicans would be playing it hard, dirty and snarling in the tackle but they have a lot of positivity and flair there as well, and show they can switch things up when need be.

South Africa by contrast play it straight and direct, they can clearly run and run and run but I’m not sure the killer final ball is quite there. When their game gets predictable they can make changes in the second half, but I’m not sure these are entirely successful. Still, they may be 2-0 up by then, who knows.

By: jeff w

jeff w — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:01:23 +0000

Hurrah, I am able to download the tracks to my phone – which is the only way I’m going to be able to hear them thanks to stupid werk restrictions on doing anything fun or that needs flash.

A request: can you add an extra line in the post for each match stating how many MB each file is please?

Now I just need to find a way to vote. :/

On topic: I agree these are two good tracks. Am leaning towards the hosts at the moment but will play both again, for sure.

By: Kat but logged out innit

Kat but logged out innit — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:30:14 +0000

Hurray off to a good start, chaps!

By: mm

mm — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:30:00 +0000

I have to say this one is a runaway victory for South Africa. Fresher, more novel.

South Korea tomorrow has to be one of the big favorites.. I hope the manager is invested enough in the team to pull it off.

By: Jonathan Bogart

Jonathan Bogart — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 05:22:20 +0000

I’m going to have to give this to South Africa as well — and Café Tacuba is my favorite Rock en Español band! But I’ve always disliked “La Ingrata” — at least the bits sung by Ribaac, he of the nasal growl — and they have so much more so much better music that it’s a bit like repping Radiohead by “Creep.”

But the horn fanfare on the “Pidipidi” chorus is what clinched it: this sounds like World Cup stuff whether or no.

By: tonya

tonya — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:20:28 +0000

In the regular World Cup I support countries in North America and countries where they speak English, so that doesn’t help me pick here. I love Mexican music but that vocal cannot be borne, so the home country gets a shot to move on.

I’m still heartbroken that I missed the call for managers by one person.

By: Pete

Pete — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:28:46 +0000

This is South Africa all the way for me. I think the Mexican track is a bit disappointingly stereotypical. Not surprised to hear hip-hop from the South Africans, but I am interested in how relatively lo-key it is. But I think they corrected predicted a hi-tempo piece of work from the Mexicans and counter-programmed appropriately.

By: Birdseed

Birdseed — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:43:24 +0000

Strong opener! Despite the superficial differences there’s a strong shared quirky energy in both sides making for an entertaining game. South Africa, for me, is just edging this one though I can’t help but feel there should be stronger material available to the team for future clashes.

By: Tom

Tom — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:28:29 +0000

I’m trying to sort out a few formatting issues so the GRAND LAUNCH of this will be tomorrow! Hopefully these aren’t the formatting issues where “you have to vote again” though.