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	<title>Comments on: The FT Top 25 Pubs of the 00s No 16: The Hole In The Wall, Mepham Street SE1</title>
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	<description>Lollards in the high church of low culture</description>
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		<title>By: porkypie</title>
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		<dc:creator>porkypie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Luton, Mansfield, York, Barrow, Wrexham, Cambridge and Eastbourne Borough. Great standard of footy, that, refreshments freely available and no sign of any pondlife*

excellent trolling, well done.

There are complete idiots at every level of football, it&#039;s a bit like life in that respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Luton, Mansfield, York, Barrow, Wrexham, Cambridge and Eastbourne Borough. Great standard of footy, that, refreshments freely available and no sign of any pondlife*</p>
<p>excellent trolling, well done.</p>
<p>There are complete idiots at every level of football, it&#8217;s a bit like life in that respect.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy the Swede</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy the Swede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AFC Wimbo, of course, now in the top tier of non-league footy along with such giants as Luton, Mansfield, York, Barrow, Wrexham, Cambridge and Eastbourne Borough. Great standard of footy, that, refreshments freely available and no sign of any pondlife. A far cry from the noddyland of the premiership, where the most dispicable creatures are nowadays the players and managers rather than the poor fools who have to empty their bank accounts to buy a burger, never mind a ticket for the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AFC Wimbo, of course, now in the top tier of non-league footy along with such giants as Luton, Mansfield, York, Barrow, Wrexham, Cambridge and Eastbourne Borough. Great standard of footy, that, refreshments freely available and no sign of any pondlife. A far cry from the noddyland of the premiership, where the most dispicable creatures are nowadays the players and managers rather than the poor fools who have to empty their bank accounts to buy a burger, never mind a ticket for the game.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s actually fairly tricky to get to the New Den from Waterloo, Millwall tend to be a bit more London Bridge-centric these days (I think). Millwall awaydays this season which might involve them setting off from Waterloo: Southampton, Exeter. I think that&#039;s it. 

I&#039;m used to seeing lots of AFC Wimbo fans in there, which is usually a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s actually fairly tricky to get to the New Den from Waterloo, Millwall tend to be a bit more London Bridge-centric these days (I think). Millwall awaydays this season which might involve them setting off from Waterloo: Southampton, Exeter. I think that&#8217;s it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m used to seeing lots of AFC Wimbo fans in there, which is usually a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: CarsmileSteve</title>
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		<dc:creator>CarsmileSteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t say I&#039;ve seen much Millwall in there over the last few years to be honest, and a lot of my recent trips to the HITW have been at football times.  What I have seen is lots of middle aged blokes (and some women) in replica tops of various, generally non-premiership, teams all happily having a lovely pint of ale, before tootling off to their assorted trains (the friendly atmosphere only dissipates for me when i realise that, once again, i am going to s0dding aldershot (NEVER AGAIN))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t say I&#8217;ve seen much Millwall in there over the last few years to be honest, and a lot of my recent trips to the HITW have been at football times.  What I have seen is lots of middle aged blokes (and some women) in replica tops of various, generally non-premiership, teams all happily having a lovely pint of ale, before tootling off to their assorted trains (the friendly atmosphere only dissipates for me when i realise that, once again, i am going to s0dding aldershot (NEVER AGAIN))</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy the Swede</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy the Swede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a splendid write-up, Tim. I know this place so well or at least used to. The Hole used to be a good place to get your head kicked in by a flange (and I cannot think of a better collective noun) of Millwall supporters at lunchtime on a Saturday. I used to call it &quot;The Hole in the Head&quot; because of this and used to scuttle off to the safety of the Wellington, which was far more civilised and still is.

Perhaps The Hole is better today but as a man in middle age now, I have no real inclination to put in the research on my increasingly fewer trips back to my native Smoke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a splendid write-up, Tim. I know this place so well or at least used to. The Hole used to be a good place to get your head kicked in by a flange (and I cannot think of a better collective noun) of Millwall supporters at lunchtime on a Saturday. I used to call it &#8220;The Hole in the Head&#8221; because of this and used to scuttle off to the safety of the Wellington, which was far more civilised and still is.</p>
<p>Perhaps The Hole is better today but as a man in middle age now, I have no real inclination to put in the research on my increasingly fewer trips back to my native Smoke.</p>
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		<title>By: PJM</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although The King&#039;s Arms is so close...</description>
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		<title>By: PJM</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should really test your theory, Porkypie.</description>
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		<title>By: porkypie</title>
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		<dc:creator>porkypie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>excellent piece Tim.  HITW is one of my favourite London pubs, but one of those that I feel if I went to very often it might become less favoured, not sure why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excellent piece Tim.  HITW is one of my favourite London pubs, but one of those that I feel if I went to very often it might become less favoured, not sure why.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The chances of me (then) summoning up the courage to go and talk to any of them were minimal anyway! But seeing Jim Beattie in the alehouse would surely have counted for something in one small corner of East Devon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The chances of me (then) summoning up the courage to go and talk to any of them were minimal anyway! But seeing Jim Beattie in the alehouse would surely have counted for something in one small corner of East Devon.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re 2: apart from those characters encountered later on who turned out to be decent people (Jim from the Jasmines, Gregory from the Razorcuts), would meeting any of those people then actually have enhanced your life? A lot of that Creation crew appear in retrospect to have been tiresome at best…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re 2: apart from those characters encountered later on who turned out to be decent people (Jim from the Jasmines, Gregory from the Razorcuts), would meeting any of those people then actually have enhanced your life? A lot of that Creation crew appear in retrospect to have been tiresome at best…</p>
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		<title>By: wichita lineman</title>
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		<dc:creator>wichita lineman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lovely write-up, Tim. 

Two other groups of people who meet in the HITW:

1. South Bank Centre conspirators, knowing they can safely talk about their bosses who will be drinking at the HITW&#039;s aspirational twin, the Archduke.

2. Members of Earl Brutus who organise an irregular pop quiz there called The Electrical Circus. Expect questions on David Bowie and Focus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovely write-up, Tim. </p>
<p>Two other groups of people who meet in the HITW:</p>
<p>1. South Bank Centre conspirators, knowing they can safely talk about their bosses who will be drinking at the HITW&#8217;s aspirational twin, the Archduke.</p>
<p>2. Members of Earl Brutus who organise an irregular pop quiz there called The Electrical Circus. Expect questions on David Bowie and Focus.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1. The Hole in the Wall is a superb pub. *and*, when I took my grandad to catch a Eurostar and we were delayed an hour, he remembered drinking there on leave from the navy during the Second World War.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1. The Hole in the Wall is a superb pub. *and*, when I took my grandad to catch a Eurostar and we were delayed an hour, he remembered drinking there on leave from the navy during the Second World War.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat but logged out innit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat but logged out innit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wah my comment was marked as spam!

ANYWAY what I said was: Medieval Madness pinball = TICK VG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wah my comment was marked as spam!</p>
<p>ANYWAY what I said was: Medieval Madness pinball = TICK VG</p>
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		<title>By: Glue Factory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glue Factory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I once spent an afternoon in here, rather than going to the Deptford Free Festival.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once spent an afternoon in here, rather than going to the Deptford Free Festival.</p>
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		<title>By: Ewan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ewan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@3 It took me many attempts myself to get a photo of it without obstructions...

I walked past this pub pretty much every day after I first moved to London on my way to and from work (I lived in Elephant &amp; Castle up the road) and it always intrigued me; I had thought it was just the small front room. When I eventually visited it years later it did seem like something of a &#039;local pub&#039; for a transient and ever-changing population such as central London&#039;s, friendly enough but anonymous. Its charms are as hidden away as the pub itself seems to be, but it definitely has charms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@3 It took me many attempts myself to get a photo of it without obstructions&#8230;</p>
<p>I walked past this pub pretty much every day after I first moved to London on my way to and from work (I lived in Elephant &amp; Castle up the road) and it always intrigued me; I had thought it was just the small front room. When I eventually visited it years later it did seem like something of a &#8216;local pub&#8217; for a transient and ever-changing population such as central London&#8217;s, friendly enough but anonymous. Its charms are as hidden away as the pub itself seems to be, but it definitely has charms.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Mannion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Mannion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever actually been in here.</description>
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		<title>By: Matt DC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That picture has just made me realise that I have never seen the Hole in the Wall in daylight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That picture has just made me realise that I have never seen the Hole in the Wall in daylight.</p>
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		<title>By: PJM</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great, Tim. I suddenly like the place.

&quot;– arriving late to the wintry pub crawl with my future wife in tow, the first time she met lots of the Freaky Triggerists&quot;

Reader, I was one of them. But was correctly referred to as a Sinisterine. It is also the place where you told me, with considerable glee, that Jenn is nothing like me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great, Tim. I suddenly like the place.</p>
<p>&#8220;– arriving late to the wintry pub crawl with my future wife in tow, the first time she met lots of the Freaky Triggerists&#8221;</p>
<p>Reader, I was one of them. But was correctly referred to as a Sinisterine. It is also the place where you told me, with considerable glee, that Jenn is nothing like me.</p>
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		<title>By: CarsmileSteve</title>
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		<dc:creator>CarsmileSteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that picture makes it look almost exciting, they must have been very cunning to get a pic without a 243 parked outside belching out exhaust fumes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that picture makes it look almost exciting, they must have been very cunning to get a pic without a 243 parked outside belching out exhaust fumes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a thing: years later I found out that, right around the mid-80s time I&#039;m talking about, lots of the early Creation records crowd would drink in the Wellington (about 100 yards away) after recording in the studios that back onto the Welly. SO CLOSE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a thing: years later I found out that, right around the mid-80s time I&#8217;m talking about, lots of the early Creation records crowd would drink in the Wellington (about 100 yards away) after recording in the studios that back onto the Welly. SO CLOSE!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lovely bit of writing there.</description>
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		<title>By: Kat but logged out innit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat but logged out innit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Medieval Madness pinball! &#9829;&#9829;&#9829;</description>
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