Comments on: RACHEL STEVENS – “Nothing Good About This Goodbye” https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/10/rachel-stevens-nothing-good-about-this-goodbye Lollards in the high church of low culture Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: daavid https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/10/rachel-stevens-nothing-good-about-this-goodbye/comment-page-1#comment-656930 Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:22:00 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=15926#comment-656930 Sadly, I could never get into this song. In fact I hated it the first time I heard it. But in my case I don’t think it had much to do with Rachel; it was the little changes they made to the Alexis Strum version (which I absolutely love) what ruined it for me. And even though I agree with Tom about why Rachel’s voice works with this kind of material, I disagree specifically in this instance, because Alexis’s voice, which is a lot more expressive, works even better IMO.

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By: Steve Mannion https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/10/rachel-stevens-nothing-good-about-this-goodbye/comment-page-1#comment-656846 Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:27:25 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=15926#comment-656846 I’ve not really listened to the album (or its tracks separately) for over 3 years now but when I recently applied my highly scientific ‘mark each song out of 10, total score as percentage = how good it is’ measures it scored surprisingly high. The track order is still the worst ever tho imo (but then we had the leak for ages and that was listed differently).

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By: koganbot https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/10/rachel-stevens-nothing-good-about-this-goodbye/comment-page-1#comment-656831 Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:33:47 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=15926#comment-656831 (That said, “Forever Is Over” has totally ear-wormed me; would have made my top twenty if the singing had come through.)

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By: koganbot https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/10/rachel-stevens-nothing-good-about-this-goodbye/comment-page-1#comment-656829 Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:26:19 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=15926#comment-656829 Stevens’ singing style is surely a choice. Maybe she’s not a powerhouse, but her voice seems viable, so she could skip lightly or whimper or maybe even wail if she wanted to, or if her producers wanted her to. Maybe not to pierce the sky, but to give variety. Whereas Cole and all but one of the Saturdays are stiff and weak. The Saturdays’ “Forever Is Over” is a terrific song with plenty of expressive moments, stylistically much different from “Nothing Good About This Goodbye”; their one good singer is half up to the wail of the chorus but any decent freestyle girl could have done at least as well. The arrangement carries the chorus, but the quieter verses are where they really sound dead, where the jabs and the growls are beyond them. Whereas Stevens’ tracks are much more reliant on her voice, steadily, unvaryingly, mildly warm. Maybe she’s tried wails and stuff and they go wrong for her. Just as some writers have never done well with adjectives or description.

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By: Lex https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/10/rachel-stevens-nothing-good-about-this-goodbye/comment-page-1#comment-656821 Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:22:27 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=15926#comment-656821 Listening back, I think Stevens’ vocal limitations are a red herring – her album’s success was less to do with what she brought to the table than with the quality of the songcraft – the lyrical ideas and strong narratives allied with really good, appropriate melodies. And yeah, if she helps the songs in any way, it’s due to what Tom said – kind of the opposite of getting in their way, she enunciates the words and delivers the tunes precisely, adds clarity to them. So when you hear a line like “If you are the one, this regret will last forever,” it’s strong enough that its emotion sticks with you. But it goes without saying that for a voice like Stevens’ to be viable, you need lyrics and melodies that can stand on their own, and those don’t exactly come along every day. One of the more bemusing developments of 2009 has been how a few British acts have gained a lot more commercial success than Stevens ever did based on…replicating her aesthetic, right down to the nothing vocals, but without ANY of the lyrical/melodic ideas or hooks. Looking at you here, the Saturdays and Cheryl Cole. And both of those are evidence that Stevensesque voices minus strong material = black hole of pointlessness.

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By: Tom https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/10/rachel-stevens-nothing-good-about-this-goodbye/comment-page-1#comment-656818 Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:58:29 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=15926#comment-656818 Just a quick reminder that the other half of this list is going on here:
http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/tomewing00s

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By: SarahDitum https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/10/rachel-stevens-nothing-good-about-this-goodbye/comment-page-1#comment-656816 Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:52:33 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=15926#comment-656816 I adore this song – although I’ve always heard the deadpan vocal as the containment of desperate sadness, a kind of calm after some kind of horrific emotional storm. That’s why the eruption of neediness in “tell me will you miss me/When I’m in your history” always makes me feel a bit tearful, because I imagine that all along, what she really wants to know is whether the ex hurts too. But there’s never any way back to the relationship in the song.

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