<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:series="http://unfoldingneurons.com/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Court And Spark</title>
	<atom:link href="http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/04/court-and-spark/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/04/court-and-spark/</link>
	<description>Lollards in the high church of low culture</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:23:45 +0100</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Sabina</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/04/court-and-spark/#comment-612061</link>
		<dc:creator>Sabina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 04:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=14104#comment-612061</guid>
		<description>(Posted on Frank&#039;s LJ but should carry it over here too:) 

Not hallway/classroom (necessarily) but salon/court: watching a Chinese historical TV drama out of the corner of my eye today, and was struck by the public and performative aspect of court discourse - you have information being presented to the ruler, various ministers reacting, debating solutions, etc., but the real decision is never made at court; a lot of work is being done via informal groups both before and after the court session to figure out 1) who the stakeholders *really* are 2) what the stuff that is said at court *really* means 3) what is not said at court and should be 4) what is not said at court and *shouldn&#039;t* be and 5) what the decision arrived at in court ought to be. The ruler himself takes part in these informal groups. In biz school this is presented as a cross-cultural studies thing: North American companies view meetings as a space for debates and decision making, East Asian companies view them as a space where orderly consensus is enacted, the debates and decision making having taken place earlier and privately/informally. However my impression is that 18th-century France was, well, more like 18th-century China in this sense... I would guess, commonsensically, that the more prohibitions and articles of etiquette there are surrounding the &quot;court&quot; situ, the more the actual nexus of information exchange and decision making shifts elsewhere/underground.

...This is perhaps more organizational behaviour than marketing?  But the one is just marketing within rather than without, if community building is seen as falling under the marketing function (or: erasing the business-employee split rather than the business-consumer split).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Posted on Frank&#8217;s LJ but should carry it over here too:) </p>
<p>Not hallway/classroom (necessarily) but salon/court: watching a Chinese historical TV drama out of the corner of my eye today, and was struck by the public and performative aspect of court discourse &#8211; you have information being presented to the ruler, various ministers reacting, debating solutions, etc., but the real decision is never made at court; a lot of work is being done via informal groups both before and after the court session to figure out 1) who the stakeholders *really* are 2) what the stuff that is said at court *really* means 3) what is not said at court and should be 4) what is not said at court and *shouldn&#8217;t* be and 5) what the decision arrived at in court ought to be. The ruler himself takes part in these informal groups. In biz school this is presented as a cross-cultural studies thing: North American companies view meetings as a space for debates and decision making, East Asian companies view them as a space where orderly consensus is enacted, the debates and decision making having taken place earlier and privately/informally. However my impression is that 18th-century France was, well, more like 18th-century China in this sense&#8230; I would guess, commonsensically, that the more prohibitions and articles of etiquette there are surrounding the &#8220;court&#8221; situ, the more the actual nexus of information exchange and decision making shifts elsewhere/underground.</p>
<p>&#8230;This is perhaps more organizational behaviour than marketing?  But the one is just marketing within rather than without, if community building is seen as falling under the marketing function (or: erasing the business-employee split rather than the business-consumer split).</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/04/court-and-spark/#comment-611912</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=14104#comment-611912</guid>
		<description>Yeah, the classroom-hallway split was definitely at the back of my mind writing this (and thinking about other things too - the distinction between research and non-research, or qualitative research and ethnography, for instance).

What the Cluetrainers are doing maybe is trying to *establish* such a split rather than break it down. So, replace the business-consumer split (which isn&#039;t classroom-hallway because it involves different people) with business-human, and then privilege the human as being &#039;more real&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the classroom-hallway split was definitely at the back of my mind writing this (and thinking about other things too &#8211; the distinction between research and non-research, or qualitative research and ethnography, for instance).</p>
<p>What the Cluetrainers are doing maybe is trying to *establish* such a split rather than break it down. So, replace the business-consumer split (which isn&#8217;t classroom-hallway because it involves different people) with business-human, and then privilege the human as being &#8216;more real&#8217;?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: koganbot</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/04/court-and-spark/#comment-611897</link>
		<dc:creator>koganbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=14104#comment-611897</guid>
		<description>Tom, some quick thoughts about whether my idea of the hallway-classroom split is relevant either to the Cluetrain Manifesto or to the French court and salons. Of course, my idea definitely came from my experience growing up in post-WWII United States (I&#039;m guessing that the average Cluetrainer is ten to twenty years younger than I am, and the average saloner a couple of centuries older).

I&#039;d thought of the hallway-classroom split as behavioral &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; psychological, the behavioral split being that in the classroom you talk about a subject matter and in the hallway you talk to and about &lt;i&gt;each other&lt;/i&gt;; the psychological split being that, if you buy into the division, you buy into the idea that these are the behaviors that are expected and appropriate in actual classrooms and hallways. But I wasn&#039;t saying that actual classrooms and hallways were always and only homes to the expected/appropriate behavior. (And of course I was saying that one could reject the split, which is mutually impoverishing to both hallway and classroom, and I was claiming that good rock critics did indeed reject the split.) By calling the split &quot;psychological&quot; I was implying that people take it with them wherever they go; that for people whose psyche is under the split&#039;s sway, the whole world is a hallway (even if they call the hallway &quot;real life&quot; or &quot;the street&quot; or such), which is to say that for them the whole world outside of selected official venues is a response to the classroom, even if they&#039;d like to pretend that &quot;real life&quot; is prior to and more real and basic than the classroom. But also, classrooms - real classrooms - are an attempt to put the hallway at bay. In the hallway, you&#039;re working out who you are in relation to others (e.g., social differentiation, romance, gang warfare, etc.), whereas the classroom wants to at least go through the motions of setting that quest (or battle) aside for the length of the class period, instead making the main issue the study of a subject matter - though of course what you do in the classroom &lt;i&gt;will&lt;/i&gt; have an impact on your social relations.

In any event, there&#039;s not obviously a one-to-one parallel between hallway-classroom and &quot;human speech&quot;-&quot;corporate speech,&quot; or &quot;salon&quot;-&quot;court,&quot; etc. (Presumably the court has official and less official speech. And what would count as &quot;subject matter&quot; in corporate as opposed to noncorporate speech?) The reasons hallway-classroom jumped to mind, though, are that the salon is an entity that in some way may be rejecting the behavioral splits of its day (it&#039;s not official but it&#039;s &lt;i&gt;about&lt;/i&gt; the official) and that the Cluetrainers themselves, while perhaps in a similar role, seem to be rather naively acting out the hallway&#039;s claim to be more real than the classroom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, some quick thoughts about whether my idea of the hallway-classroom split is relevant either to the Cluetrain Manifesto or to the French court and salons. Of course, my idea definitely came from my experience growing up in post-WWII United States (I&#8217;m guessing that the average Cluetrainer is ten to twenty years younger than I am, and the average saloner a couple of centuries older).</p>
<p>I&#8217;d thought of the hallway-classroom split as behavioral <i>and</i> psychological, the behavioral split being that in the classroom you talk about a subject matter and in the hallway you talk to and about <i>each other</i>; the psychological split being that, if you buy into the division, you buy into the idea that these are the behaviors that are expected and appropriate in actual classrooms and hallways. But I wasn&#8217;t saying that actual classrooms and hallways were always and only homes to the expected/appropriate behavior. (And of course I was saying that one could reject the split, which is mutually impoverishing to both hallway and classroom, and I was claiming that good rock critics did indeed reject the split.) By calling the split &#8220;psychological&#8221; I was implying that people take it with them wherever they go; that for people whose psyche is under the split&#8217;s sway, the whole world is a hallway (even if they call the hallway &#8220;real life&#8221; or &#8220;the street&#8221; or such), which is to say that for them the whole world outside of selected official venues is a response to the classroom, even if they&#8217;d like to pretend that &#8220;real life&#8221; is prior to and more real and basic than the classroom. But also, classrooms &#8211; real classrooms &#8211; are an attempt to put the hallway at bay. In the hallway, you&#8217;re working out who you are in relation to others (e.g., social differentiation, romance, gang warfare, etc.), whereas the classroom wants to at least go through the motions of setting that quest (or battle) aside for the length of the class period, instead making the main issue the study of a subject matter &#8211; though of course what you do in the classroom <i>will</i> have an impact on your social relations.</p>
<p>In any event, there&#8217;s not obviously a one-to-one parallel between hallway-classroom and &#8220;human speech&#8221;-&#8221;corporate speech,&#8221; or &#8220;salon&#8221;-&#8221;court,&#8221; etc. (Presumably the court has official and less official speech. And what would count as &#8220;subject matter&#8221; in corporate as opposed to noncorporate speech?) The reasons hallway-classroom jumped to mind, though, are that the salon is an entity that in some way may be rejecting the behavioral splits of its day (it&#8217;s not official but it&#8217;s <i>about</i> the official) and that the Cluetrainers themselves, while perhaps in a similar role, seem to be rather naively acting out the hallway&#8217;s claim to be more real than the classroom.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Michael Karesh</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/04/court-and-spark/#comment-611792</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Karesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=14104#comment-611792</guid>
		<description>Fantastic piece. I&#039;ve been reading through the theses in order, and finally one with a real critique that reflects my own experience engaging with people on the Internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic piece. I&#8217;ve been reading through the theses in order, and finally one with a real critique that reflects my own experience engaging with people on the Internet.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: emergency cell phone chargers</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/04/court-and-spark/#comment-611734</link>
		<dc:creator>emergency cell phone chargers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 00:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=14104#comment-611734</guid>
		<description>Interesting and useful info - thanks for informing all of us. Nate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting and useful info &#8211; thanks for informing all of us. Nate</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Morten Blaabjerg</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/04/court-and-spark/#comment-611701</link>
		<dc:creator>Morten Blaabjerg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=14104#comment-611701</guid>
		<description>Thank you for this beautiful and interesting article, which gives one a lot of food for thought.

I gather that we do have this odd mixture for the time being of mass media (mob) and blogosphere (salon), which creates such oddities as the race between CNN and some actor to first reach 1 million followers on Twitter. We&#039;re in some weird &quot;in between&quot; phase and nobody knows what&#039;s going to happen. But something will happen, and it will go bad for some. And a lot of people will learn more in the process. This will go on until mass media run out of advertising funds. Who wants to advertise in mass media when you can&#039;t be certain of the effects of advertising? Who wants to blow millions in traditional marketing campaigns, when you can be less and less certain about the outcome?

I just received a message from a recently approved &quot;friend&quot; on Facebook who wanted me to join the Mona Vie company. I once saw a critical news report about that company, but didn&#039;t recognize it at first. But I did do a quick search on Google to refresh my memory. And it took me less than two minutes to find out I didn&#039;t want anything to do with that company. I realized that the sellers associated with the company were very likely to become so desperate (after buying all those expensive bottles of soft drink), they&#039;d resort to anything to get their investments back. Within 5 minutes I had de-friended the Facebook friend, as I don&#039;t want to receive that kind of doubtful business proposals and decided I wouldn&#039;t miss him anyway. If he was a closer friend, perhaps I&#039;d have tried to get him some help to get out of that mess.

This goes for just any company in the world and eventually no company will be able to &quot;hide&quot; from the scrutiny of their potential customers, employees and business partners.

So I guess, to answer, you don&#039;t converse with the mob. They will tear you down. If you don&#039;t wake up and begin to do something different. If this is when you&#039;re out of business, because you didn&#039;t see what&#039;s coming, it is too late. And that&#039;s when it&#039;ll hurt and be bad.

The blogging aristocrats may not like it very much either. They are no less safe than the Gorbachevs of this world are safe from the Yeltsins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this beautiful and interesting article, which gives one a lot of food for thought.</p>
<p>I gather that we do have this odd mixture for the time being of mass media (mob) and blogosphere (salon), which creates such oddities as the race between CNN and some actor to first reach 1 million followers on Twitter. We&#8217;re in some weird &#8220;in between&#8221; phase and nobody knows what&#8217;s going to happen. But something will happen, and it will go bad for some. And a lot of people will learn more in the process. This will go on until mass media run out of advertising funds. Who wants to advertise in mass media when you can&#8217;t be certain of the effects of advertising? Who wants to blow millions in traditional marketing campaigns, when you can be less and less certain about the outcome?</p>
<p>I just received a message from a recently approved &#8220;friend&#8221; on Facebook who wanted me to join the Mona Vie company. I once saw a critical news report about that company, but didn&#8217;t recognize it at first. But I did do a quick search on Google to refresh my memory. And it took me less than two minutes to find out I didn&#8217;t want anything to do with that company. I realized that the sellers associated with the company were very likely to become so desperate (after buying all those expensive bottles of soft drink), they&#8217;d resort to anything to get their investments back. Within 5 minutes I had de-friended the Facebook friend, as I don&#8217;t want to receive that kind of doubtful business proposals and decided I wouldn&#8217;t miss him anyway. If he was a closer friend, perhaps I&#8217;d have tried to get him some help to get out of that mess.</p>
<p>This goes for just any company in the world and eventually no company will be able to &#8220;hide&#8221; from the scrutiny of their potential customers, employees and business partners.</p>
<p>So I guess, to answer, you don&#8217;t converse with the mob. They will tear you down. If you don&#8217;t wake up and begin to do something different. If this is when you&#8217;re out of business, because you didn&#8217;t see what&#8217;s coming, it is too late. And that&#8217;s when it&#8217;ll hurt and be bad.</p>
<p>The blogging aristocrats may not like it very much either. They are no less safe than the Gorbachevs of this world are safe from the Yeltsins.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/04/court-and-spark/#comment-611687</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=14104#comment-611687</guid>
		<description>DUNGEONS ARE CONVERSATIONS TOO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DUNGEONS ARE CONVERSATIONS TOO</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Andrew Farrell</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/04/court-and-spark/#comment-611675</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Farrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=14104#comment-611675</guid>
		<description>&lt;I&gt;but markets were also places where you might fight, flirt, steal or be stolen from, get a cudgel on the head and your purse cut, rabble rouse, accuse and make demands.&lt;/I&gt;

Once a DM...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>but markets were also places where you might fight, flirt, steal or be stolen from, get a cudgel on the head and your purse cut, rabble rouse, accuse and make demands.</i></p>
<p>Once a DM&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/04/court-and-spark/#comment-611643</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=14104#comment-611643</guid>
		<description>Outsourcing / offshoring / hardassed supplier (and supply chain) management are all &quot;conversations&quot; in the wider sense but I&#039;m not sure those theses mean much that&#039;s useful in that context. 

One day someone will make a lot of noise and money thinking this sort of think in that sort of area. Maybe they already have, without my noticing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outsourcing / offshoring / hardassed supplier (and supply chain) management are all &#8220;conversations&#8221; in the wider sense but I&#8217;m not sure those theses mean much that&#8217;s useful in that context. </p>
<p>One day someone will make a lot of noise and money thinking this sort of think in that sort of area. Maybe they already have, without my noticing.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/04/court-and-spark/#comment-611635</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=14104#comment-611635</guid>
		<description>Yes, there&#039;s probably not a huge amount of business-to-business conversation going on.

&quot;Arguably the most influential business book of the last decade&quot; actually isn&#039;t that huge a claim in that I can&#039;t think of too many others! (&quot;Who moved my cheese?&quot; maybe :( ) But CTM was very influential in shaping the ideas around &#039;social media&#039;, &#039;web 2.0&#039; etc. It&#039;s the Velvet Underground of business books - everyone who read it formed a dodgy start-up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, there&#8217;s probably not a huge amount of business-to-business conversation going on.</p>
<p>&#8220;Arguably the most influential business book of the last decade&#8221; actually isn&#8217;t that huge a claim in that I can&#8217;t think of too many others! (&#8220;Who moved my cheese?&#8221; maybe :( ) But CTM was very influential in shaping the ideas around &#8217;social media&#8217;, &#8216;web 2.0&#8242; etc. It&#8217;s the Velvet Underground of business books &#8211; everyone who read it formed a dodgy start-up!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/04/court-and-spark/#comment-611632</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=14104#comment-611632</guid>
		<description>Tom, what did the book influence? (This isn&#039;t me trying to be snarky but I hadn&#039;t come across this before and it&#039;s the kind of thing I&#039;d imagine the ten-years-ago me being all over.)

The marketing people I work with (and for) every day wouldn&#039;t, I think, have any use for the 95 theses, they don&#039;t seem to provide routes through the concerns I hear about clarity and consistency and suchlike. I wonder whether that is something to do with ours being a business-to-business environment? That market could only barely be called a conversation, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, what did the book influence? (This isn&#8217;t me trying to be snarky but I hadn&#8217;t come across this before and it&#8217;s the kind of thing I&#8217;d imagine the ten-years-ago me being all over.)</p>
<p>The marketing people I work with (and for) every day wouldn&#8217;t, I think, have any use for the 95 theses, they don&#8217;t seem to provide routes through the concerns I hear about clarity and consistency and suchlike. I wonder whether that is something to do with ours being a business-to-business environment? That market could only barely be called a conversation, I think.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/04/court-and-spark/#comment-611618</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=14104#comment-611618</guid>
		<description>Re. big names in consulting - they&#039;re big fish in a small pond; their bubble never popped and threw them into the mainstream. Which is a shame. 

A few of my former sales colleagues in my last job had read the book and thought it was cute, but they preferred to do the same old preferential dealings as before - since the short-term, tangible benefit was more obvious than a nice, fuzzy feeling (and loss of competitive advantage). Utopia, meet realism.

Ramble over... Nice post, I didn&#039;t really know what a French salon was but like the analogies you&#039;ve drawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re. big names in consulting &#8211; they&#8217;re big fish in a small pond; their bubble never popped and threw them into the mainstream. Which is a shame. </p>
<p>A few of my former sales colleagues in my last job had read the book and thought it was cute, but they preferred to do the same old preferential dealings as before &#8211; since the short-term, tangible benefit was more obvious than a nice, fuzzy feeling (and loss of competitive advantage). Utopia, meet realism.</p>
<p>Ramble over&#8230; Nice post, I didn&#8217;t really know what a French salon was but like the analogies you&#8217;ve drawn.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/04/court-and-spark/#comment-611614</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=14104#comment-611614</guid>
		<description>Well, intrigue and status isn&#039;t inappropriate: a lot of people who cite Cluetrain are marketers hoping to make a buck out of conversations. And - this is one of the things I like about it - you don&#039;t get that sense from the Manifesto itself, which buzzes with a barely-concealed horror and frustration at business, marketing, etc. It&#039;s a weird cocktail of Tom Peters, Tom Wolfe and Reginald Perrin. And indeed its writers HAVEN&#039;T in general gone on to become enormous names in business consulting, despite having written arguably the most influential business book of the last decade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, intrigue and status isn&#8217;t inappropriate: a lot of people who cite Cluetrain are marketers hoping to make a buck out of conversations. And &#8211; this is one of the things I like about it &#8211; you don&#8217;t get that sense from the Manifesto itself, which buzzes with a barely-concealed horror and frustration at business, marketing, etc. It&#8217;s a weird cocktail of Tom Peters, Tom Wolfe and Reginald Perrin. And indeed its writers HAVEN&#8217;T in general gone on to become enormous names in business consulting, despite having written arguably the most influential business book of the last decade.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Martin Skidmore</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/04/court-and-spark/#comment-611609</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Skidmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=14104#comment-611609</guid>
		<description>And the salons in that series were centred around intrigue and status with respect to the court, but that may have just been for plot purposes, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the salons in that series were centred around intrigue and status with respect to the court, but that may have just been for plot purposes, of course.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: lonepilgrim</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/04/court-and-spark/#comment-611605</link>
		<dc:creator>lonepilgrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=14104#comment-611605</guid>
		<description>I&#039;m going to need some time to digest the full meaning of this post but it put me in mind of Neal Stephenson&#039;s Baroque trilogy which deals (amongst other things) with the development of markets and the interaction of mobs and elites at the end of the 17th and start of the 18th centuries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to need some time to digest the full meaning of this post but it put me in mind of Neal Stephenson&#8217;s Baroque trilogy which deals (amongst other things) with the development of markets and the interaction of mobs and elites at the end of the 17th and start of the 18th centuries.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
