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	<title>Comments on: THE HUMAN LEAGUE &#8211; &#8220;Don&#8217;t You Want Me&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: swanstep</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/02/the-human-league-dont-you-want-me/#comment-676352</link>
		<dc:creator>swanstep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Conrad, 87. Well-judged comment, with which I completely agree. (I probably overegged things back at #84.) Heh, well, at any rate there&#039;s an fun mega-mix arrangement for some basement party band where you start off playing DYWM, modulate via the bluesier Eagle riff into playing Eagle, which, noodling around a bit now, I find can be rocked quite nicely into Being Boiled. Yee-haw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Conrad, 87. Well-judged comment, with which I completely agree. (I probably overegged things back at #84.) Heh, well, at any rate there&#8217;s an fun mega-mix arrangement for some basement party band where you start off playing DYWM, modulate via the bluesier Eagle riff into playing Eagle, which, noodling around a bit now, I find can be rocked quite nicely into Being Boiled. Yee-haw.</p>
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		<title>By: Conrad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 15:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This discussion inspired me to dig out Eagle and have another listen...

it&#039;s really not a steal, though it&#039;s a great spot - the first half of each riff is similar, but Abba&#039;s is more classic blues in origin, and the second half of theirs is a standard, and fairly uninteresting blues lick. The Human League&#039;s is a much more defined melody in the second half and resolves strongly, which is why it&#039;s so memorable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This discussion inspired me to dig out Eagle and have another listen&#8230;</p>
<p>it&#8217;s really not a steal, though it&#8217;s a great spot &#8211; the first half of each riff is similar, but Abba&#8217;s is more classic blues in origin, and the second half of theirs is a standard, and fairly uninteresting blues lick. The Human League&#8217;s is a much more defined melody in the second half and resolves strongly, which is why it&#8217;s so memorable.</p>
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		<title>By: swanstep</title>
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		<dc:creator>swanstep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brooksie, 85. You&#039;re absolutely right that the riffs aren&#039;t identical, and the basic keys overall are different (DYWM&#039;s in C, Eagles&#039;s in D), and, in general, Eagle&#039;s saturated with SoCal languor whereas DYWM  bounces from chord to chord throughout (quite Motown-y really). 

Still (i) the riff melody&#039;s *initial rhythm* is the same, (ii) the *initial notes* are essentially the same (pounding the A then noodling around it), and (iii) both riffs eventually resolve to Am. DYWM *starts* on Am too, so its As and noodles preserve a cleanly minor quality. Eagle&#039;s initially on Em so its As and noodles significantly thicken the sound, giving the riff its brassy, adult quality. (Eagle&#039;s officially about nature, but I&#039;ve always thought of it as having quite a louche, almost druggy vibe about it too - the song scared me a little as a kid!)

Anyhow, in the grand scheme of things this is insignificant. I hear something, but it&#039;s hardly Oasis-style strip-mining of influences!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brooksie, 85. You&#8217;re absolutely right that the riffs aren&#8217;t identical, and the basic keys overall are different (DYWM&#8217;s in C, Eagles&#8217;s in D), and, in general, Eagle&#8217;s saturated with SoCal languor whereas DYWM  bounces from chord to chord throughout (quite Motown-y really). </p>
<p>Still (i) the riff melody&#8217;s *initial rhythm* is the same, (ii) the *initial notes* are essentially the same (pounding the A then noodling around it), and (iii) both riffs eventually resolve to Am. DYWM *starts* on Am too, so its As and noodles preserve a cleanly minor quality. Eagle&#8217;s initially on Em so its As and noodles significantly thicken the sound, giving the riff its brassy, adult quality. (Eagle&#8217;s officially about nature, but I&#8217;ve always thought of it as having quite a louche, almost druggy vibe about it too &#8211; the song scared me a little as a kid!)</p>
<p>Anyhow, in the grand scheme of things this is insignificant. I hear something, but it&#8217;s hardly Oasis-style strip-mining of influences!</p>
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		<title>By: Brooksie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brooksie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 10:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a 10 for me. The true dawning of the age of UK synth pop that would dominate the world for the next 5 years. A US # 1 to boot. The two national charts were about to begin synching up in a way they hadn&#039;t since the mid 60&#039;s. It was also a time in which the people making pop music still had just a little cred from dues-paying (SAW would wreck that for good). Heady times to be in a British pop group.

I think the synth riff from DYWM actually adds something to the riff from Eagle; DYWM is more menacing (different key?) and the wrap-up at the end is different (and varies). I think I heard that Phil Oakey copied the lyrics from a photo love-story in a magazine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a 10 for me. The true dawning of the age of UK synth pop that would dominate the world for the next 5 years. A US # 1 to boot. The two national charts were about to begin synching up in a way they hadn&#8217;t since the mid 60&#8217;s. It was also a time in which the people making pop music still had just a little cred from dues-paying (SAW would wreck that for good). Heady times to be in a British pop group.</p>
<p>I think the synth riff from DYWM actually adds something to the riff from Eagle; DYWM is more menacing (different key?) and the wrap-up at the end is different (and varies). I think I heard that Phil Oakey copied the lyrics from a photo love-story in a magazine.</p>
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		<title>By: swanstep</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/02/the-human-league-dont-you-want-me/#comment-676282</link>
		<dc:creator>swanstep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 08:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Taylor, 79. Holy sh**, you are right. The difference between the riffs is really quite subtle, but it&#039;s quite enough to throw one off. I look forward to figuring out the difference exactly hence how all that works! I confess to being a little staggered by your observation: the DYWM riff has always sounded so singular to me! Some of the very best pop (not coincidentally) seems to play tricks on your perceeption like this: the main riff from Smells like Teen Spirit is so utterly singular and convincing sounding that it comes as terrible shock (or at least did to me) when you hear a guitarist run through its changes and, by just changing one or two notes, turn it into More than a Feeling, or by changing two different notes turn the riff into Wild Thing! These small differences spread out by performance quality and timbre make for enormous differences experientially. Amazing and shocking. Anyhow, congrats again on a good catch! I&#039;ll hear both DYWM and Eagle quite differently from now on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Taylor, 79. Holy sh**, you are right. The difference between the riffs is really quite subtle, but it&#8217;s quite enough to throw one off. I look forward to figuring out the difference exactly hence how all that works! I confess to being a little staggered by your observation: the DYWM riff has always sounded so singular to me! Some of the very best pop (not coincidentally) seems to play tricks on your perceeption like this: the main riff from Smells like Teen Spirit is so utterly singular and convincing sounding that it comes as terrible shock (or at least did to me) when you hear a guitarist run through its changes and, by just changing one or two notes, turn it into More than a Feeling, or by changing two different notes turn the riff into Wild Thing! These small differences spread out by performance quality and timbre make for enormous differences experientially. Amazing and shocking. Anyhow, congrats again on a good catch! I&#8217;ll hear both DYWM and Eagle quite differently from now on.</p>
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		<title>By: thefatgit</title>
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		<dc:creator>thefatgit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Life Imitates Art-Watch:

DYWM has now become the unofficial theme-tune to the split of Ronnie Wood (65) and Ekaterina Ivanova (21).</description>
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<p>DYWM has now become the unofficial theme-tune to the split of Ronnie Wood (65) and Ekaterina Ivanova (21).</p>
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		<title>By: Conrad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#80, I&#039;d like to hear some Vic Godard some time. Is he any good? Been reading about him in &quot;Rip It Up and Start Again&quot; whic I have finally got round to buying.

NB - It&#039;s &quot;Stamp of a Vamp&quot; isn&#039;t it? Although &quot;Lamp&quot; is arguably better...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#80, I&#8217;d like to hear some Vic Godard some time. Is he any good? Been reading about him in &#8220;Rip It Up and Start Again&#8221; whic I have finally got round to buying.</p>
<p>NB &#8211; It&#8217;s &#8220;Stamp of a Vamp&#8221; isn&#8217;t it? Although &#8220;Lamp&#8221; is arguably better&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Erithian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erithian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Channel 4 Top 100 Watch - this is the 25th best-selling single of all time in the UK.</description>
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		<title>By: Billy Smart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy Smart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 13:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NMEWatch: 28th November 1981, Julie Burchill;

 &quot;Samson Oakey - who resembles Phil McNeill at the height of punk - needs to have a haircut and the stuffing knocked out of him. But it takes two to do it (duet) wrong. This could be a swinging little song if given to two black singers with GREAT VOICES. Phil and moll sound sallow and callow. So many people should be silent songwriters. You could be in folklore instead of on Top of the Pops. Look at Phil Spector. No, don&#039;t look at him like that!

 The Human League must stop using the singles chart as an agony column sometimes. And my scout tells me that there are no cocktail bars in Sheffield. And they&#039;re too sensitive. They could learn a lot&quot;

 Burchill awarded no single of the week. Also reviewed that week;

Rip Rig &amp; Panic - Bob Hope Takes Risks
Barry Manilow - The Old Songs
Elvis Costello &amp; The Attractions - Sweet Dreams
Kiki &amp; Elton - Loving You Is Sweeter Than Ever
Fogwell Flax &amp; The Freehold Junior School - One-Nine For Santa
Gary Numan - Love Needs No Disguise
Madness - It Must Be Love
Vic Goddard - Stamp Of A Lamp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NMEWatch: 28th November 1981, Julie Burchill;</p>
<p> &#8220;Samson Oakey &#8211; who resembles Phil McNeill at the height of punk &#8211; needs to have a haircut and the stuffing knocked out of him. But it takes two to do it (duet) wrong. This could be a swinging little song if given to two black singers with GREAT VOICES. Phil and moll sound sallow and callow. So many people should be silent songwriters. You could be in folklore instead of on Top of the Pops. Look at Phil Spector. No, don&#8217;t look at him like that!</p>
<p> The Human League must stop using the singles chart as an agony column sometimes. And my scout tells me that there are no cocktail bars in Sheffield. And they&#8217;re too sensitive. They could learn a lot&#8221;</p>
<p> Burchill awarded no single of the week. Also reviewed that week;</p>
<p>Rip Rig &amp; Panic &#8211; Bob Hope Takes Risks<br />
Barry Manilow &#8211; The Old Songs<br />
Elvis Costello &amp; The Attractions &#8211; Sweet Dreams<br />
Kiki &amp; Elton &#8211; Loving You Is Sweeter Than Ever<br />
Fogwell Flax &amp; The Freehold Junior School &#8211; One-Nine For Santa<br />
Gary Numan &#8211; Love Needs No Disguise<br />
Madness &#8211; It Must Be Love<br />
Vic Goddard &#8211; Stamp Of A Lamp</p>
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		<title>By: Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main riff - it&#039;s a steal from &quot;Eagle&quot; by Abba, isn&#039;t it? 

I&#039;ve always wondered why no one seems to mention this. Perhaps it&#039;s just so blatantly obvious that no one&#039;s ever thought it worth mentioning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main riff &#8211; it&#8217;s a steal from &#8220;Eagle&#8221; by Abba, isn&#8217;t it? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always wondered why no one seems to mention this. Perhaps it&#8217;s just so blatantly obvious that no one&#8217;s ever thought it worth mentioning.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil also has a deceptive vocal range - I did this at karaoke for about the third time in a row on Friday and WHEN WILL I LEARN MY LESSON.

I&#039;d like to see Phil and the biscuit tin...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil also has a deceptive vocal range &#8211; I did this at karaoke for about the third time in a row on Friday and WHEN WILL I LEARN MY LESSON.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see Phil and the biscuit tin&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: wichita lineman</title>
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		<dc:creator>wichita lineman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil&#039;s great. I always liked &quot;I never thought I&#039;d be in a group. I thought people in groups were stupid.&quot; And pretending to Smash Hits that he collected models of Tom from Tom &amp; Jerry: &quot;I now have 245&quot; or some such...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil&#8217;s great. I always liked &#8220;I never thought I&#8217;d be in a group. I thought people in groups were stupid.&#8221; And pretending to Smash Hits that he collected models of Tom from Tom &amp; Jerry: &#8220;I now have 245&#8243; or some such&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: lonepilgrim</title>
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		<dc:creator>lonepilgrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 13:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some great quotes from Phil Oakey in Simon Reynolds&#039; new book &#039;Totally Wired&#039; such as: 
&quot;If you want to make a lot of money out of pop, be number 3 a lot. Like New Order did. Or The Cure. Because when you&#039;re number 1 you&#039;re everybody&#039;s; nobody really cares about you any more. Everyone and their grandma knows about you, so nobody wants to wear your badges any more.&quot;
There&#039;s even an explanation of Crow and Baby if you&#039;re curious.
Martin Rushent is interviewed as well and gives a good account of the making of Dare and Love and Dancing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some great quotes from Phil Oakey in Simon Reynolds&#8217; new book &#8216;Totally Wired&#8217; such as:<br />
&#8220;If you want to make a lot of money out of pop, be number 3 a lot. Like New Order did. Or The Cure. Because when you&#8217;re number 1 you&#8217;re everybody&#8217;s; nobody really cares about you any more. Everyone and their grandma knows about you, so nobody wants to wear your badges any more.&#8221;<br />
There&#8217;s even an explanation of Crow and Baby if you&#8217;re curious.<br />
Martin Rushent is interviewed as well and gives a good account of the making of Dare and Love and Dancing.</p>
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		<title>By: abaffledrepublic</title>
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		<dc:creator>abaffledrepublic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And to go off on a Human League-related tangent, it was this sort of electronic pop, and the League in particular, which provided the inspiration/basis for those fantastic Richard X bootlegs at the turn of the century.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And to go off on a Human League-related tangent, it was this sort of electronic pop, and the League in particular, which provided the inspiration/basis for those fantastic Richard X bootlegs at the turn of the century.</p>
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		<title>By: abaffledrepublic</title>
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		<dc:creator>abaffledrepublic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re #68: &#039;The Things That Dreams Are Made Of&#039;, surely the track off Dare that should have been a single, but wasn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #68: &#8216;The Things That Dreams Are Made Of&#8217;, surely the track off Dare that should have been a single, but wasn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Snif</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/02/the-human-league-dont-you-want-me/#comment-588671</link>
		<dc:creator>Snif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Re #66: ‘Dare’ is, of course, the album (briefly) played at the student party in the 1982 first series of ‘The Young Ones’;&quot;

I seem to recall Alexei Sayle breaking into a few bars of &quot;Don&#039;t You Want Me&quot; during one of his solo spots in a Young Ones episode.

The League were also immortalised in 2000AD as the name of an anti-robot movement in the &quot;Sam Slade, Robo Slayer&quot; strip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Re #66: ‘Dare’ is, of course, the album (briefly) played at the student party in the 1982 first series of ‘The Young Ones’;&#8221;</p>
<p>I seem to recall Alexei Sayle breaking into a few bars of &#8220;Don&#8217;t You Want Me&#8221; during one of his solo spots in a Young Ones episode.</p>
<p>The League were also immortalised in 2000AD as the name of an anti-robot movement in the &#8220;Sam Slade, Robo Slayer&#8221; strip.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about &quot;Life on your own&quot; as part three of the trilogy?

(It was a single before Louise, but comes after it on Hysteria)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about &#8220;Life on your own&#8221; as part three of the trilogy?</p>
<p>(It was a single before Louise, but comes after it on Hysteria)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She doesn&#039;t have to be famous, necessarily, to be successful.

Maybe he helped her set up a PR business or something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She doesn&#8217;t have to be famous, necessarily, to be successful.</p>
<p>Maybe he helped her set up a PR business or something?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For &quot;Louise&quot; to be a direct sequel to DYWM we&#039;d need a lot of backstory-imagining, mostly why these successful people (in DYWM success has been so easy for her, and he presumably has some foundation for thinking he&#039;s had some hand in her success - she doesn&#039;t directly contradict that) are hanging around bus stops looking a little rough.

Maybe the bus is doubling as a dressing room / trailer on a film set?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For &#8220;Louise&#8221; to be a direct sequel to DYWM we&#8217;d need a lot of backstory-imagining, mostly why these successful people (in DYWM success has been so easy for her, and he presumably has some foundation for thinking he&#8217;s had some hand in her success &#8211; she doesn&#8217;t directly contradict that) are hanging around bus stops looking a little rough.</p>
<p>Maybe the bus is doubling as a dressing room / trailer on a film set?</p>
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		<title>By: David Belbin</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Belbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re 36-38 I was pleased that the HL played &#039;Louise&#039; (in the ballad spot, replacing &#039;Human&#039;) on the recent Sheffield Steel City tour and disgusted to discover just now that the only version of it I have is the recent Tony Christie version (that said, Tony&#039;s cover is probably why they started playing it again). Listening to it now on Spotify, I see it works perfectly as a sequel to DYWM. 

I remember the first time I heard DYWM, playing on Radio One one afternoon in the hospital house I shared with the girlfriend I was about to leave. Still poignant for me and the cracked singing is  what gives the songs that extra element of punctum, making it transcend the HL&#039;s other singles to reach a wider audience and ensuring them their place at the top of the bill 25 years on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re 36-38 I was pleased that the HL played &#8216;Louise&#8217; (in the ballad spot, replacing &#8216;Human&#8217;) on the recent Sheffield Steel City tour and disgusted to discover just now that the only version of it I have is the recent Tony Christie version (that said, Tony&#8217;s cover is probably why they started playing it again). Listening to it now on Spotify, I see it works perfectly as a sequel to DYWM. </p>
<p>I remember the first time I heard DYWM, playing on Radio One one afternoon in the hospital house I shared with the girlfriend I was about to leave. Still poignant for me and the cracked singing is  what gives the songs that extra element of punctum, making it transcend the HL&#8217;s other singles to reach a wider audience and ensuring them their place at the top of the bill 25 years on.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Smart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy Smart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re #66: &#039;Dare&#039; is, of course, the album (briefly) played at the student party in the 1982 first series of &#039;The Young Ones&#039;;

RIK (putting &#039;Dare&#039; on turntable): Let&#039;s have some music! Who here likes The Human League?!

(The first second of &#039;The Things That Dreams Are Made Of&#039; plays. Instantly a squad of policemen break into the room and smash up the album and the record player with their truncheons.)

POLICEMAN: Stop the noise! There&#039;s been a complaint!

 &#039;Dare&#039; was also the album that Lester Bangs was playing on the day that he died.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #66: &#8216;Dare&#8217; is, of course, the album (briefly) played at the student party in the 1982 first series of &#8216;The Young Ones&#8217;;</p>
<p>RIK (putting &#8216;Dare&#8217; on turntable): Let&#8217;s have some music! Who here likes The Human League?!</p>
<p>(The first second of &#8216;The Things That Dreams Are Made Of&#8217; plays. Instantly a squad of policemen break into the room and smash up the album and the record player with their truncheons.)</p>
<p>POLICEMAN: Stop the noise! There&#8217;s been a complaint!</p>
<p> &#8216;Dare&#8217; was also the album that Lester Bangs was playing on the day that he died.</p>
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		<title>By: dickvandyke</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks v much Erithian at #49 for the research. No-one believes me these days.
I vividly remember the -24 reading on the Guardroom thermometer in nearby Hereford. (Not a night for being a gate guard!)
I always thought that my memory was playing tricks on me as the years have flown by.  Even Chris Bonington was struggling!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks v much Erithian at #49 for the research. No-one believes me these days.<br />
I vividly remember the -24 reading on the Guardroom thermometer in nearby Hereford. (Not a night for being a gate guard!)<br />
I always thought that my memory was playing tricks on me as the years have flown by.  Even Chris Bonington was struggling!!</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s difficult for me to make an objective assessment of &quot;Don&#039;t You Want Me&quot;, as my connection with it is primarily a social one.  Multiple copies of &lt;i&gt;Dare&lt;/i&gt; were floating about our shared student house, and as such it soon eclipsed Heaven 17&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Penthouse And Pavement&lt;/i&gt; as Most Played Album.  Several friends adopted &quot;Don&#039;t You Want Me&quot; as their official Favourite Song, and it became inescapable at student parties, university discos and club nights in town.  Oh, and everybody did a special little hand movement to the &quot;working as a waitress in a cocktail bar&quot; bit: raising an oustretched palm horizontally above the corresponding shoulder, as if to support a tray of drinks.  (I still feel a slight involuntary twitch, even now.)

As I&#039;ve said before, this era was my generation&#039;s coming of age: chart pop was being made by people like us, and people like us were its primary audience.  It&#039;s curious that we&#039;re almost halfway through the Popular story, and also at a point where my personal and social relationship with pop is peaking.  I&#039;ve always loved pop music, but mostly as an observer; perhaps this marks the point where I most felt like a participant.  

(Actually, hold that thought: there&#039;ll be another distinct and separate period to come, where I&#039;ll feel equally connected.)

Anyhow, it&#039;s a subjective 10 from me, over-played or not.

As for S.Sulley&#039;s vocals, don&#039;t read too much into their &quot;cracked&quot; quality - I recall reading that it took multiple takes to get her part down, and that the final version was stitched together from the best bits of these.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s difficult for me to make an objective assessment of &#8220;Don&#8217;t You Want Me&#8221;, as my connection with it is primarily a social one.  Multiple copies of <i>Dare</i> were floating about our shared student house, and as such it soon eclipsed Heaven 17&#8217;s <i>Penthouse And Pavement</i> as Most Played Album.  Several friends adopted &#8220;Don&#8217;t You Want Me&#8221; as their official Favourite Song, and it became inescapable at student parties, university discos and club nights in town.  Oh, and everybody did a special little hand movement to the &#8220;working as a waitress in a cocktail bar&#8221; bit: raising an oustretched palm horizontally above the corresponding shoulder, as if to support a tray of drinks.  (I still feel a slight involuntary twitch, even now.)</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve said before, this era was my generation&#8217;s coming of age: chart pop was being made by people like us, and people like us were its primary audience.  It&#8217;s curious that we&#8217;re almost halfway through the Popular story, and also at a point where my personal and social relationship with pop is peaking.  I&#8217;ve always loved pop music, but mostly as an observer; perhaps this marks the point where I most felt like a participant.  </p>
<p>(Actually, hold that thought: there&#8217;ll be another distinct and separate period to come, where I&#8217;ll feel equally connected.)</p>
<p>Anyhow, it&#8217;s a subjective 10 from me, over-played or not.</p>
<p>As for S.Sulley&#8217;s vocals, don&#8217;t read too much into their &#8220;cracked&#8221; quality &#8211; I recall reading that it took multiple takes to get her part down, and that the final version was stitched together from the best bits of these.</p>
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		<title>By: a logged-out pˆnk s lord whatnot</title>
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		<dc:creator>a logged-out pˆnk s lord whatnot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i doubt i ever achieved even compromised jazz credibility!</description>
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		<title>By: LondonLee</title>
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		<dc:creator>LondonLee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find being drunk helps when listening to Free Jazz.</description>
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