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	<title>Comments on: BUCKS FIZZ &#8211; &#8220;Making Your Mind Up&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Tooncgull</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/01/bucks-fizz-making-your-mind-up/#comment-655679</link>
		<dc:creator>Tooncgull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#51 - Matthew songs... Martin Stephensons &quot;Me and Matthew&quot;  .. ?

and Making Your Mind Up is schlock pop, annoyingly catchy, and with the added gimmickry of the girls losing their skirts! How could it fail?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#51 &#8211; Matthew songs&#8230; Martin Stephensons &#8220;Me and Matthew&#8221;  .. ?</p>
<p>and Making Your Mind Up is schlock pop, annoyingly catchy, and with the added gimmickry of the girls losing their skirts! How could it fail?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Barker</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/01/bucks-fizz-making-your-mind-up/#comment-573918</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Barker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing I am unhappy about the Eurovision Song Contest is that the use of English, in the Eurovision Song Contest increases year by year.

As a native English speaker I think this is unfair!

It&#039;s certainly time to break the habit of &quot;language imperialism&quot;, in the Eurovision Song Contest, and use a song, sung in Esperanto instead!

This is a serious suggestion, as you can see from the Esperanto music which is already available at http://www.vinilkosmo.com/?prs=listen or at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8837438938991452670

There&#039;s even cheesy Esperanto music available! See http://www.ipernity.com/home/56084</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing I am unhappy about the Eurovision Song Contest is that the use of English, in the Eurovision Song Contest increases year by year.</p>
<p>As a native English speaker I think this is unfair!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s certainly time to break the habit of &#8220;language imperialism&#8221;, in the Eurovision Song Contest, and use a song, sung in Esperanto instead!</p>
<p>This is a serious suggestion, as you can see from the Esperanto music which is already available at <a href="http://www.vinilkosmo.com/?prs=listen" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.vinilkosmo.com/?prs=listen&amp;referer=');">http://www.vinilkosmo.com/?prs=listen</a> or at <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8837438938991452670" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8837438938991452670&amp;referer=');">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8837438938991452670</a></p>
<p>There&#8217;s even cheesy Esperanto music available! See <a href="http://www.ipernity.com/home/56084" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.ipernity.com/home/56084?referer=');">http://www.ipernity.com/home/56084</a></p>
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		<title>By: Malice Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malice Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting reference wichita lineman makes in post 79 . I bumped into Jahn Teigen in Dublin at the &#039;95 contest, well not really bumped as he was sitting in the Foyer reading some silly Eurovision fanclub magazine from OGAE NORGE (quite appropriate considering the interests of most eurovision fans). I went into sad anorak mode and told him it was unfortunate that he was remembered for getting zero points when he finished second in 2 Norwegian national finals with songs that could well have won the contest, if selected. He agreed and told me all about his marriage to and separation from fellow songwriter/performer Anita Skorgan whose song had beaten him into second place in 1988.
All this from a man who used to dress up as a skeleton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting reference wichita lineman makes in post 79 . I bumped into Jahn Teigen in Dublin at the &#8217;95 contest, well not really bumped as he was sitting in the Foyer reading some silly Eurovision fanclub magazine from OGAE NORGE (quite appropriate considering the interests of most eurovision fans). I went into sad anorak mode and told him it was unfortunate that he was remembered for getting zero points when he finished second in 2 Norwegian national finals with songs that could well have won the contest, if selected. He agreed and told me all about his marriage to and separation from fellow songwriter/performer Anita Skorgan whose song had beaten him into second place in 1988.<br />
All this from a man who used to dress up as a skeleton.</p>
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		<title>By: wichita lineman</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/01/bucks-fizz-making-your-mind-up/#comment-572961</link>
		<dc:creator>wichita lineman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Pete. Bit of a young John Major thing going on with Odd as well.

I&#039;d never heard the whole song before; structurally it&#039;s positively a Macarthur Park compared to most Eurovision entries. And I like the way it includes the lyric &quot;blah blah blah blah blah blah.&quot; 

(Seeing as that year&#039;s winner had a chorus that went &quot;La la-la la, la-la la, la-la la&quot;, Odd wasn&#039;t that far from the Euro zeitgeist).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Pete. Bit of a young John Major thing going on with Odd as well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d never heard the whole song before; structurally it&#8217;s positively a Macarthur Park compared to most Eurovision entries. And I like the way it includes the lyric &#8220;blah blah blah blah blah blah.&#8221; </p>
<p>(Seeing as that year&#8217;s winner had a chorus that went &#8220;La la-la la, la-la la, la-la la&#8221;, Odd wasn&#8217;t that far from the Euro zeitgeist).</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Baran</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/01/bucks-fizz-making-your-mind-up/#comment-572948</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Baran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for the Lineman above, the physically (if not vocally) very Jarvis Cocker-esque Odd Borre (though in this Youtube still he looks like the missing link between the Two Ronnie&#039;s):
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for the Lineman above, the physically (if not vocally) very Jarvis Cocker-esque Odd Borre (though in this Youtube still he looks like the missing link between the Two Ronnie&#8217;s):<br />
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		<title>By: Pete Baran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Baran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We Are The Winners of Eurovision: Lithuania in 2006. It came 6th.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We Are The Winners of Eurovision: Lithuania in 2006. It came 6th.</p>
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		<title>By: a tanned rested and unlogged lørd sükråt wötsît</title>
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		<dc:creator>a tanned rested and unlogged lørd sükråt wötsît</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“We Are The Winners” was fairly funny once

i have somehow all my rockcrit life known there were two bands called popol vuh -- it&#039;s the kind of stupid thing i remember (see above for the kind of stuff i remember incorrectly) -- but i&#039;ve no idea why i know this, or if the second one was this norwegian one, or if there were actually THREE bands called popol vuh! 

(i actualy think given hippy-prog fascination with mysticism and the provenance of the name &quot;popul vuh&quot; it&#039;s not that surprising it was hit on more than once) (cf also nirvana heehee)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“We Are The Winners” was fairly funny once</p>
<p>i have somehow all my rockcrit life known there were two bands called popol vuh &#8212; it&#8217;s the kind of stupid thing i remember (see above for the kind of stuff i remember incorrectly) &#8212; but i&#8217;ve no idea why i know this, or if the second one was this norwegian one, or if there were actually THREE bands called popol vuh! </p>
<p>(i actualy think given hippy-prog fascination with mysticism and the provenance of the name &#8220;popul vuh&#8221; it&#8217;s not that surprising it was hit on more than once) (cf also nirvana heehee)</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Diggi-Loo Diggi-Ley&#039; was Herreys, wasn&#039;t it? Blonde lads in pixie boots.

The Norwegian in aviators and skinny tie was singing &quot;Don&#039;t drop that neutron bomb on me&quot;, I think - topical but, strangely, unpopular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Diggi-Loo Diggi-Ley&#8217; was Herreys, wasn&#8217;t it? Blonde lads in pixie boots.</p>
<p>The Norwegian in aviators and skinny tie was singing &#8220;Don&#8217;t drop that neutron bomb on me&#8221;, I think &#8211; topical but, strangely, unpopular.</p>
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		<title>By: Erithian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erithian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are two bands called Popul Vuh?  What are the chances of that happening?

“We Are The Winners” was hysterically funny and should have won.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are two bands called Popul Vuh?  What are the chances of that happening?</p>
<p>“We Are The Winners” was hysterically funny and should have won.</p>
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		<title>By: wichita lineman</title>
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		<dc:creator>wichita lineman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ultimate nul points entry (the very first) was Norway&#039;s super-hammy rocker Mil Etter Mil by Jahn Teigen, three years before Kalvik. Memories of a skinny tie, aviator shades, veins sticking out like knotted rope. 

It was a no.1 in Norway. &quot;According to Wikipedia&quot; Teigen started off in a band called Popol Vuh (not THAT Popol Vuh), and turned down an offer from Genesis to audition as a possible Peter Gabriel replacement.

But my fav Norwegian entry is 1968&#039;s Stress by Odd Borre, a Jarvis Cocker lookalike, mainly because a song called Stress by someone called Odd Borre was never, ever going to win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ultimate nul points entry (the very first) was Norway&#8217;s super-hammy rocker Mil Etter Mil by Jahn Teigen, three years before Kalvik. Memories of a skinny tie, aviator shades, veins sticking out like knotted rope. </p>
<p>It was a no.1 in Norway. &#8220;According to Wikipedia&#8221; Teigen started off in a band called Popol Vuh (not THAT Popol Vuh), and turned down an offer from Genesis to audition as a possible Peter Gabriel replacement.</p>
<p>But my fav Norwegian entry is 1968&#8242;s Stress by Odd Borre, a Jarvis Cocker lookalike, mainly because a song called Stress by someone called Odd Borre was never, ever going to win.</p>
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		<title>By: a tanned rested and unlogged lørd sükråt wötsît</title>
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		<dc:creator>a tanned rested and unlogged lørd sükråt wötsît</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops as you were, DLDFL is a swedish winner, peel sent my sister &quot;Aldri i livet&quot; byFinn Kalvik (nor is the the only norwegian nul punktum)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops as you were, DLDFL is a swedish winner, peel sent my sister &#8220;Aldri i livet&#8221; byFinn Kalvik (nor is the the only norwegian nul punktum)</p>
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		<title>By: a tanned rested and unlogged lørd sükråt wötsît</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/01/bucks-fizz-making-your-mind-up/#comment-572581</link>
		<dc:creator>a tanned rested and unlogged lørd sükråt wötsît</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>surely diggi loo diggi ley was the legendary &quot;nul punkt&quot; norwegian entry? john peel sent my sister a copy as some kind of prize for a letter she wrote him</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>surely diggi loo diggi ley was the legendary &#8220;nul punkt&#8221; norwegian entry? john peel sent my sister a copy as some kind of prize for a letter she wrote him</p>
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		<title>By: Dan R</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/01/bucks-fizz-making-your-mind-up/#comment-572578</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 74; From memory it was Latvia or Lithuania and their weird song was a kind of football chant that involved repeatedly chanting &quot;We are the winners! Of Eurovision!&quot; They were all around 60 years old. It seemed, in the context of the show, like a piece of performance art rather than sheer hubris.

I think some of the posters on here have been unduly hard on Bucks Fizz. There&#039;s nothing about this song that pretends to be any more than it is and the arrangement is likeably envigorating from the first moment. In fact it&#039;s one of those songs that when it comes on I immediately think &#039;Oh I like this&#039; and then realise what it is and feel slightly ashamed.

Plus, no one ever wore velour quite like The Fizz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 74; From memory it was Latvia or Lithuania and their weird song was a kind of football chant that involved repeatedly chanting &#8220;We are the winners! Of Eurovision!&#8221; They were all around 60 years old. It seemed, in the context of the show, like a piece of performance art rather than sheer hubris.</p>
<p>I think some of the posters on here have been unduly hard on Bucks Fizz. There&#8217;s nothing about this song that pretends to be any more than it is and the arrangement is likeably envigorating from the first moment. In fact it&#8217;s one of those songs that when it comes on I immediately think &#8216;Oh I like this&#8217; and then realise what it is and feel slightly ashamed.</p>
<p>Plus, no one ever wore velour quite like The Fizz.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Smart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy Smart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From memory, I can remember one Swedish winner from circa 1984 that seemed to be a nostalgic song about ABBA&#039;s victory a decade before. It went something like &quot;Diggi Loo, Diggi Ley, What a great day for Sweeeeeeeden&quot;

Though now that I&#039;ve typed that down it does look like precisely the sort of thing that I&#039;d dream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From memory, I can remember one Swedish winner from circa 1984 that seemed to be a nostalgic song about ABBA&#8217;s victory a decade before. It went something like &#8220;Diggi Loo, Diggi Ley, What a great day for Sweeeeeeeden&#8221;</p>
<p>Though now that I&#8217;ve typed that down it does look like precisely the sort of thing that I&#8217;d dream.</p>
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		<title>By: peter goodlaws</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter goodlaws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of years or so ago, someone performed a song called (or at least stating) &quot;We will win Eurovision&quot;. They didn&#039;t and unless I&#039;m mistaken, there was booing in the hall when they&#039;d finished. I bet that&#039;s never happened in Vienna on New Year&#039;s Day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of years or so ago, someone performed a song called (or at least stating) &#8220;We will win Eurovision&#8221;. They didn&#8217;t and unless I&#8217;m mistaken, there was booing in the hall when they&#8217;d finished. I bet that&#8217;s never happened in Vienna on New Year&#8217;s Day!</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Baran</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/01/bucks-fizz-making-your-mind-up/#comment-572545</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Baran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, there are a lot more countries in Eurovision these days. The odds of winning should be about 1-40 which makes our once every ten years demand seem a bit unrealistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, there are a lot more countries in Eurovision these days. The odds of winning should be about 1-40 which makes our once every ten years demand seem a bit unrealistic.</p>
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		<title>By: Erithian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erithian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wikipedia also points out that the last eight contests have been won by a country winning for the first time.  Tch, I must get a life...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wikipedia also points out that the last eight contests have been won by a country winning for the first time.  Tch, I must get a life&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Erithian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erithian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be precise, “Rock’n’Roll Kids” by Paul Harrington and Charlie McGettigan.  Ireland’s third consecutive win (they won again in 1996), and the Father Ted storyline that Ireland were desperate to lose and avoid the expense of hosting it again quite possibly derived from this particular entry.  According to Wikipedia it won by the third biggest margin in the contest’s history, behind Katrina and the Waves and some woman we’ll be talking about this time next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be precise, “Rock’n’Roll Kids” by Paul Harrington and Charlie McGettigan.  Ireland’s third consecutive win (they won again in 1996), and the Father Ted storyline that Ireland were desperate to lose and avoid the expense of hosting it again quite possibly derived from this particular entry.  According to Wikipedia it won by the third biggest margin in the contest’s history, behind Katrina and the Waves and some woman we’ll be talking about this time next year.</p>
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		<title>By: peter goodlaws</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter goodlaws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1994.</description>
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		<title>By: Mark G</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/01/bucks-fizz-making-your-mind-up/#comment-572523</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When?</p>
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		<title>By: peter goodlaws</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2009/01/bucks-fizz-making-your-mind-up/#comment-572505</link>
		<dc:creator>peter goodlaws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that Wogan is a bit rich slagging off the block voting in the East. I can&#039;t remember him piping up when the Paddies won every year. I can even remember a year when Ireland went out with a firm intention to pick a song which they thought couldn&#039;t possibly triumph. It was a couple of old lags on acoustic guitars warbling a gentle misty-eyed ditty about when they were young and discovering rock and roll.

It was complete crap.

It won.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Wogan is a bit rich slagging off the block voting in the East. I can&#8217;t remember him piping up when the Paddies won every year. I can even remember a year when Ireland went out with a firm intention to pick a song which they thought couldn&#8217;t possibly triumph. It was a couple of old lags on acoustic guitars warbling a gentle misty-eyed ditty about when they were young and discovering rock and roll.</p>
<p>It was complete crap.</p>
<p>It won.</p>
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		<title>By: Erithian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erithian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 11:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sukrat #64 - of course that goes without saying, but the loyalties within each territory are too complex to go into here, and the voting pattern does suggest alliances.  I&#039;m not trying to suggest the evidence is conclusive - the abovementioned über-nerd would have to advise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sukrat #64 &#8211; of course that goes without saying, but the loyalties within each territory are too complex to go into here, and the voting pattern does suggest alliances.  I&#8217;m not trying to suggest the evidence is conclusive &#8211; the abovementioned über-nerd would have to advise.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Baran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Baran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 11:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed the nationpalling of nearby countries which may well share record release dates, radio stations, are local markets for more that one band (being the biggest band in Estonia isn&#039;t going to be the most lucrative thing in the world unless you open up to a few more local markets). Nearby countries breed local scenes - which may or may not effect voting.

Bear in mind as well that there are a few obvious exceptions to the above. I don&#039;t think anyone who saw Ruslana&#039;s Wild Dances did not think that it was the winner straight off, and ditto with Lordi (not becuase it was necessarily so great, but it had a Europe wide metal audience primed for it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed the nationpalling of nearby countries which may well share record release dates, radio stations, are local markets for more that one band (being the biggest band in Estonia isn&#8217;t going to be the most lucrative thing in the world unless you open up to a few more local markets). Nearby countries breed local scenes &#8211; which may or may not effect voting.</p>
<p>Bear in mind as well that there are a few obvious exceptions to the above. I don&#8217;t think anyone who saw Ruslana&#8217;s Wild Dances did not think that it was the winner straight off, and ditto with Lordi (not becuase it was necessarily so great, but it had a Europe wide metal audience primed for it).</p>
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		<title>By: Mark G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 11:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it really because they &#039;vote for their mates&#039; nationpalling?

Or is it more because they &quot;share taste in music&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it really because they &#8216;vote for their mates&#8217; nationpalling?</p>
<p>Or is it more because they &#8220;share taste in music&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: a tanned rested and unlogged lørd sükråt wötsît</title>
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		<dc:creator>a tanned rested and unlogged lørd sükråt wötsît</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;aren&#039;t best mates&quot; -- ok (and i know i say this very time) but the yugoslav region of the so-called &quot;balkan block&quot; of course went through a BITTER CIVIL WAR since the soviet republics and etc declared their irrevocable differences and filed for divorce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;aren&#8217;t best mates&#8221; &#8212; ok (and i know i say this very time) but the yugoslav region of the so-called &#8220;balkan block&#8221; of course went through a BITTER CIVIL WAR since the soviet republics and etc declared their irrevocable differences and filed for divorce</p>
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