Comments on: In The Court Of The Crimson Cyber-King http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/12/in-the-court-of-the-crimson-cyber-king/ Lollards in the high church of low culture Tue, 29 May 2012 02:19:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: a tanned rested and unlogged lørd sükråt wötsît http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/12/in-the-court-of-the-crimson-cyber-king/#comment-568833 a tanned rested and unlogged lørd sükråt wötsît Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:14:09 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=12991#comment-568833 actually i would locate prog as predominantly "counter-victorian" i think (unlike say steampunk): it's kind of an offshoot of the "forward to those mediaevals" of pre-raph Arts&Crafts gothica, with morrisian and/or art nouveau curlicues High Victorian look and feel is -- unexpectedly possibly -- a little more proto-futurist? actually i would locate prog as predominantly “counter-victorian” i think (unlike say steampunk): it’s kind of an offshoot of the “forward to those mediaevals” of pre-raph Arts&Crafts gothica, with morrisian and/or art nouveau curlicues

High Victorian look and feel is — unexpectedly possibly — a little more proto-futurist?

]]> By: Matthew http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/12/in-the-court-of-the-crimson-cyber-king/#comment-568055 Matthew Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:37:54 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=12991#comment-568055 The cybermonkeys were presumably a Cybermat update for the 21st century (actually, they looked a bit like mats or rugs, didn't they). Shame they weren't a bit better designed or used - a cat-sized thing with a cyberface dropping out of the rafters onto you and injecting you with its fangy fluids is, on paper, a horrifying ergo great idea. The cybermonkeys were presumably a Cybermat update for the 21st century (actually, they looked a bit like mats or rugs, didn’t they). Shame they weren’t a bit better designed or used – a cat-sized thing with a cyberface dropping out of the rafters onto you and injecting you with its fangy fluids is, on paper, a horrifying ergo great idea.

]]> By: admin http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/12/in-the-court-of-the-crimson-cyber-king/#comment-567709 admin Sun, 28 Dec 2008 22:38:17 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=12991#comment-567709 the christmas special we get, we deserve the christmas special we get, we deserve

]]> By: Demdike http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/12/in-the-court-of-the-crimson-cyber-king/#comment-567705 Demdike Sun, 28 Dec 2008 22:25:50 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=12991#comment-567705 makes an even bigger connection if you know that the vocals on ITCOTCK were done by Greg LAKE...... makes an even bigger connection if you know that the vocals on ITCOTCK were done by Greg LAKE……

]]> By: Chris http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/12/in-the-court-of-the-crimson-cyber-king/#comment-567669 Chris Sun, 28 Dec 2008 19:03:33 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=12991#comment-567669 I used the King Crimson joke as friends and I watched the episode. As usual, I was the only one who understood what the hell I was talking about. I used the King Crimson joke as friends and I watched the episode.

As usual, I was the only one who understood what the hell I was talking about.

]]> By: Al Ewing http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/12/in-the-court-of-the-crimson-cyber-king/#comment-567363 Al Ewing Sat, 27 Dec 2008 22:08:22 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=12991#comment-567363 I was hoping David Morrissey would be kidnapped by the alive Tardis blasting off somewhere, leading to angry 'take me home you bastard' companion status, a genre of companion Russel T Davies has refused to acknowledge in favour of sexy companions with wuv gleaming in their goggle-eyes. On another note, can someone email me about the possibility of joining up with the pub crawl on the 29th? I'd be arriving late and needing a mobile number in order to link up (and also a floor would be good.) I'm wanting to meet up with someone on the 30th so it'd be really great to be able to stay over that night. I was hoping David Morrissey would be kidnapped by the alive Tardis blasting off somewhere, leading to angry ‘take me home you bastard’ companion status, a genre of companion Russel T Davies has refused to acknowledge in favour of sexy companions with wuv gleaming in their goggle-eyes.

On another note, can someone email me about the possibility of joining up with the pub crawl on the 29th? I’d be arriving late and needing a mobile number in order to link up (and also a floor would be good.) I’m wanting to meet up with someone on the 30th so it’d be really great to be able to stay over that night.

]]> By: a tanned rested and unlogged lørd sükråt wötsît http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/12/in-the-court-of-the-crimson-cyber-king/#comment-567142 a tanned rested and unlogged lørd sükråt wötsît Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:16:11 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=12991#comment-567142 starless = woot! for story options surely (also: SaBB is a quote under under milk whood) (also also: one of the songs on SABB* is inspired by a portrait by rembrandt (or possibly vermeer, some dutch daubist anyway): so it could be an excellent historical interference ep where he teaches eg durer how to do perspective properly) *(look it's the only KC alb i ever owned, ok) starless = woot! for story options surely

(also: SaBB is a quote under under milk whood)

(also also: one of the songs on SABB* is inspired by a portrait by rembrandt (or possibly vermeer, some dutch daubist anyway): so it could be an excellent historical interference ep where he teaches eg durer how to do perspective properly)

*(look it’s the only KC alb i ever owned, ok)

]]> By: demdike http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/12/in-the-court-of-the-crimson-cyber-king/#comment-567128 demdike Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:53:30 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=12991#comment-567128 the ITCOTCK connection opens up a lot of future possibilities Just imagine what you could do with the next two album titles "In the Wake of Poseidon" and "Lizard". A two-story return of the Ice Warriors and their reptilian allies maybe? "Islands" and "Larks Tongues in Aspic" don't bring any immediate thoughts, while "Red" suggests lots of blood, but "Starless and Bible Black"? That could be a reprise of the Dalek's master plan. Thrak / Thrakattack offers all kinds of monstrous ideas the ITCOTCK connection opens up a lot of future possibilities
Just imagine what you could do with the next two album titles “In the Wake of Poseidon” and “Lizard”. A two-story return of the Ice Warriors and their reptilian allies maybe?
“Islands” and “Larks Tongues in Aspic” don’t bring any immediate thoughts, while “Red” suggests lots of blood, but “Starless and Bible Black”? That could be a reprise of the Dalek’s master plan. Thrak / Thrakattack offers all kinds of monstrous ideas

]]> By: Alan http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/12/in-the-court-of-the-crimson-cyber-king/#comment-566819 Alan Fri, 26 Dec 2008 22:23:14 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=12991#comment-566819 yeah i was ok they have to say king cos of teh borg (although as every geek noe, teh borg are cybermen rip off done well) i also thort: KIT PEDDLER SPINNING IN HIS GRAVE yeah i was ok they have to say king cos of teh borg (although as every geek noe, teh borg are cybermen rip off done well)

i also thort: KIT PEDDLER SPINNING IN HIS GRAVE

]]> By: pete http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/12/in-the-court-of-the-crimson-cyber-king/#comment-566804 pete Fri, 26 Dec 2008 21:49:59 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=12991#comment-566804 I wasn't saying that no ladies become cybermen, just that when they do they become cyberMEN. If they had been talking about the Cyber-Queen it is quite likely that a) Dirvros would have been tipped the wink b) The Borg would have sued c) The complex King Crimson gag would have fallen down. (RTD explained away the continuity glitch for the cybermeng as they stole the database from the Daleks in one of their uber-camp hissy fits). I wasn’t saying that no ladies become cybermen, just that when they do they become cyberMEN. If they had been talking about the Cyber-Queen it is quite likely that
a) Dirvros would have been tipped the wink
b) The Borg would have sued
c) The complex King Crimson gag would have fallen down.

(RTD explained away the continuity glitch for the cybermeng as they stole the database from the Daleks in one of their uber-camp hissy fits).

]]> By: Alan http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/12/in-the-court-of-the-crimson-cyber-king/#comment-566757 Alan Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:59:27 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=12991#comment-566757 new-who ref also the fob watch, which was i thought neatly twisted to suit the plot. pete is forgetting loads of cyberladies in S2 - there was lady who was allowed to die by removing the emo inhibitor, plus converted tracy ann ooberman CRYING OIL TEARS (btw i have not watched this proper yet. 5 kids + adults with odd telly watching habits = didn't hear a word. hurrah for the PVR) fan-w@nk watch: we have not SEEN 8 and 9 meet the cybermans. 8 has a catch-all fanboi getout, but ecclescake and cybermans - we deserve to see that ;-) ALSO ALSO, these cybermans escaping through time after the davros void destroying thing (ok, so i caught SOME of it) are the parallel world, nothing to do with telos/mondas er weird continuity madness etc etc ahem, cybermans, so how do this lot know about 1-7 anyway, eh? ha ha, worst continuity monsters evah new-who ref also the fob watch, which was i thought neatly twisted to suit the plot.

pete is forgetting loads of cyberladies in S2 – there was lady who was allowed to die by removing the emo inhibitor, plus converted tracy ann ooberman CRYING OIL TEARS

(btw i have not watched this proper yet. 5 kids + adults with odd telly watching habits = didn’t hear a word. hurrah for the PVR)

fan-w@nk watch: we have not SEEN 8 and 9 meet the cybermans. 8 has a catch-all fanboi getout, but ecclescake and cybermans – we deserve to see that ;-) ALSO ALSO, these cybermans escaping through time after the davros void destroying thing (ok, so i caught SOME of it) are the parallel world, nothing to do with telos/mondas er weird continuity madness etc etc ahem, cybermans, so how do this lot know about 1-7 anyway, eh? ha ha, worst continuity monsters evah

]]> By: Andrew Farrell http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/12/in-the-court-of-the-crimson-cyber-king/#comment-566648 Andrew Farrell Fri, 26 Dec 2008 14:48:23 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=12991#comment-566648 I guess they'd only got four steam-and-bluetooth earsets, and targeting the various hatchet-faced old men was the most efficient return on investment. I did love the 'clockwork' digital percent display. There was, it seemed, no particular reference to anything having happened recently to The Doctor, the only New-Who reference being to 'Blink': this is presumably the flashing sign saying "Insert nozzle of non-canon between this episode and the previous and hit big red button"? I guess they’d only got four steam-and-bluetooth earsets, and targeting the various hatchet-faced old men was the most efficient return on investment.

I did love the ‘clockwork’ digital percent display.

There was, it seemed, no particular reference to anything having happened recently to The Doctor, the only New-Who reference being to ‘Blink’: this is presumably the flashing sign saying “Insert nozzle of non-canon between this episode and the previous and hit big red button”?

]]> By: a tanned rested and unlogged lørd sükråt wötsît http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/12/in-the-court-of-the-crimson-cyber-king/#comment-566633 a tanned rested and unlogged lørd sükråt wötsît Fri, 26 Dec 2008 14:05:14 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=12991#comment-566633 double-plus-good tho = cybermonkeys double-plus-good tho = cybermonkeys

]]> By: a tanned rested and unlogged lørd sükråt wötsît http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/12/in-the-court-of-the-crimson-cyber-king/#comment-566632 a tanned rested and unlogged lørd sükråt wötsît Fri, 26 Dec 2008 14:03:05 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=12991#comment-566632 "let the new industrial revolution begin!" powersource = children in hamsterwheels "charging up" a hyyyyuge (steam-driven?) robot and this powersource was to be "deleted" before it was even used up! the hyyyyuge robot would have stomped its way to acton then run down forever th reason doctor who is attracted to earth is that humans apparently have the most efficient and advanced economic and resource-deployment systems in all the multiverse (depite appearances), and alien races arrive in their hundreds to try and install far more useless and incompetent socio-political regimes -- WHAT'S UP WITH THAT? “let the new industrial revolution begin!”

powersource = children in hamsterwheels “charging up” a hyyyyuge (steam-driven?) robot

and this powersource was to be “deleted” before it was even used up! the hyyyyuge robot would have stomped its way to acton then run down forever

th reason doctor who is attracted to earth is that humans apparently have the most efficient and advanced economic and resource-deployment systems in all the multiverse (depite appearances), and alien races arrive in their hundreds to try and install far more useless and incompetent socio-political regimes — WHAT’S UP WITH THAT?

]]> By: Nicol http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/12/in-the-court-of-the-crimson-cyber-king/#comment-566630 Nicol Fri, 26 Dec 2008 13:58:07 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=12991#comment-566630 The only logic I can see in capturing the kids instead of some strong adults was that kids didn't put up any fight and were easy to control. The episde really wasn't very thought out, but I liked it nevertheless. Morrissey was good, although a little overacting [or maybe it was just his role being overly emotional?] but I still liked him. And Rosita was a true cross between Martha and Rose. The first ten or so minutes were the best because I had quite a laugh at the 'doctors' being pulled up on that rope, lol. Tennant's acting was his usual and that's to say I like it just as well. But I'm getting curious as to who will be cast as the new Doctor, when they ruled out Morrissey. The only logic I can see in capturing the kids instead of some strong adults was that kids didn’t put up any fight and were easy to control. The episde really wasn’t very thought out, but I liked it nevertheless. Morrissey was good, although a little overacting [or maybe it was just his role being overly emotional?] but I still liked him. And Rosita was a true cross between Martha and Rose. The first ten or so minutes were the best because I had quite a laugh at the ‘doctors’ being pulled up on that rope, lol. Tennant’s acting was his usual and that’s to say I like it just as well. But I’m getting curious as to who will be cast as the new Doctor, when they ruled out Morrissey.

]]> By: logged out Tracer Hand http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/12/in-the-court-of-the-crimson-cyber-king/#comment-566579 logged out Tracer Hand Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:38:11 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/?p=12991#comment-566579 If they'd stolen several stout young adults the Cybermen could have had that engine built in half the time! If they’d stolen several stout young adults the Cybermen could have had that engine built in half the time!

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