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	<title>Comments on: THE POLICE &#8211; &#8220;Don&#8217;t Stand So Close To Me&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Laura Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something I&#039;ve always wondered: What would someone think if they heard this song and the only Nabokov novel they knew was &lt;i&gt;Pale Fire&lt;/i&gt;?

(Also: It&#039;s pronounced nuh-BAH-koff, dammit!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something I&#8217;ve always wondered: What would someone think if they heard this song and the only Nabokov novel they knew was <i>Pale Fire</i>?</p>
<p>(Also: It&#8217;s pronounced nuh-BAH-koff, dammit!)</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Smart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy Smart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 13:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NMEWatch: 1st December 1979. Single of the week from Ian Penman; &quot;So dignified; what a leisurely affair! &#039;Walking On The Moon&#039; is an undeniable serenade, hinged around popularity or sexuality or some post-euphoric sleight of hand-in-hand. &#039;Walking On The Moon&#039; isn&#039;t soft soil, understated though it is. It&#039;s risky dubble seduction: edible reggae and hungry pop interest.&quot;

Also reviewed;

Holger Czukay - Cool In The Pool
Suicide - Dream Baby Dream
Joe Jackson - It&#039;s Different For Girls
The Beat - Tears Of A Clown
Mike Oldfield - Blue Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NMEWatch: 1st December 1979. Single of the week from Ian Penman; &#8220;So dignified; what a leisurely affair! &#8216;Walking On The Moon&#8217; is an undeniable serenade, hinged around popularity or sexuality or some post-euphoric sleight of hand-in-hand. &#8216;Walking On The Moon&#8217; isn&#8217;t soft soil, understated though it is. It&#8217;s risky dubble seduction: edible reggae and hungry pop interest.&#8221;</p>
<p>Also reviewed;</p>
<p>Holger Czukay &#8211; Cool In The Pool<br />
Suicide &#8211; Dream Baby Dream<br />
Joe Jackson &#8211; It&#8217;s Different For Girls<br />
The Beat &#8211; Tears Of A Clown<br />
Mike Oldfield &#8211; Blue Peter</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Smart</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/11/the-police-dont-stand-so-close-to-me/#comment-558092</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Smart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m back at my parents&#039; house for the weekend. Tottering piles of newspaper and magazines in the attic vie with walls of books, heaps of records in my bedroom... The heaps do at least tend to be in order, though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m back at my parents&#8217; house for the weekend. Tottering piles of newspaper and magazines in the attic vie with walls of books, heaps of records in my bedroom&#8230; The heaps do at least tend to be in order, though!</p>
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		<title>By: lonepilgrim</title>
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		<dc:creator>lonepilgrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the sexual/gender politics at the NME always were a bit dodgy - I can remember when they used to have a pin-up each week in the Gig Guide....er not that I disapproved at the time.
Max Bell was keen on the West Coast acts like Little Feat and Steely Dan I seem to recall so the Police would probably be his idea of cutting edge.
Thanks for digging these out Billy - are you one of those shut ins whose rooms are filled with tottering piles of newspaper or just very well organised?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the sexual/gender politics at the NME always were a bit dodgy &#8211; I can remember when they used to have a pin-up each week in the Gig Guide&#8230;.er not that I disapproved at the time.<br />
Max Bell was keen on the West Coast acts like Little Feat and Steely Dan I seem to recall so the Police would probably be his idea of cutting edge.<br />
Thanks for digging these out Billy &#8211; are you one of those shut ins whose rooms are filled with tottering piles of newspaper or just very well organised?</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Smart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy Smart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NMEWatch: Max Bell, 20th September 1980. 

&quot;Sting knows the scenario, eh? All those nubile Lolitas in 3B just itching to get Mr Sumner hot and bothered while he&#039;s marking their geography papers. Hey! Teacher! Leave those kids alone! Aside from the perils of classroom footsy The Police are still manipulating their formula. And why not? It works. Helluva subject matter, isn&#039;t it? Vladimir&#039;s syndrome. Underneath it they&#039;re lovable, dependable, safe. Sting is the best looking man in the world and The Police are better than The Beatles. I just wish he&#039;d try a different voice for a change, that the band would attempt a different beat. The subliminal dance goes on and on and on.&quot;

Bell makes &#039;The Wanderer&#039; by Donna Summer single of the week. Also reviewed are;

Orange Juice - Blue Boy/ Love Sick
Kid Creole &amp; The Coconuts - Maladie D&#039;Amour
Paul McCartney - Temporary Secretary
John Cale - Mercenaries
Viv Stanshall - Terry Keeps His Clips on</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NMEWatch: Max Bell, 20th September 1980. </p>
<p>&#8220;Sting knows the scenario, eh? All those nubile Lolitas in 3B just itching to get Mr Sumner hot and bothered while he&#8217;s marking their geography papers. Hey! Teacher! Leave those kids alone! Aside from the perils of classroom footsy The Police are still manipulating their formula. And why not? It works. Helluva subject matter, isn&#8217;t it? Vladimir&#8217;s syndrome. Underneath it they&#8217;re lovable, dependable, safe. Sting is the best looking man in the world and The Police are better than The Beatles. I just wish he&#8217;d try a different voice for a change, that the band would attempt a different beat. The subliminal dance goes on and on and on.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bell makes &#8216;The Wanderer&#8217; by Donna Summer single of the week. Also reviewed are;</p>
<p>Orange Juice &#8211; Blue Boy/ Love Sick<br />
Kid Creole &amp; The Coconuts &#8211; Maladie D&#8217;Amour<br />
Paul McCartney &#8211; Temporary Secretary<br />
John Cale &#8211; Mercenaries<br />
Viv Stanshall &#8211; Terry Keeps His Clips on</p>
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		<title>By: peter goodlaws</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter goodlaws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have nothing really to say about the Lolita angle. Waldo&#039;s been boring me to death about it but I only hear this as a great track about Sting jumping some schoolgirl he&#039;s teaching which is a bit naughty but if shes sixteen not illegal. Subject a bit strange but its only rock and roll and I like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have nothing really to say about the Lolita angle. Waldo&#8217;s been boring me to death about it but I only hear this as a great track about Sting jumping some schoolgirl he&#8217;s teaching which is a bit naughty but if shes sixteen not illegal. Subject a bit strange but its only rock and roll and I like it.</p>
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		<title>By: wichita lineman</title>
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		<dc:creator>wichita lineman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baby Jump, I realised just a week ago, is basically a jugband cover of Vince Taylor&#039;s Brand New Cadillac. Even the lyrics (Lolita and Da Vinci aside) are nicked. Vince, by &#039;71. would have been too far out to sea to notice. And then his life story was regurgitated as Ziggy Stardust a year later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baby Jump, I realised just a week ago, is basically a jugband cover of Vince Taylor&#8217;s Brand New Cadillac. Even the lyrics (Lolita and Da Vinci aside) are nicked. Vince, by &#8217;71. would have been too far out to sea to notice. And then his life story was regurgitated as Ziggy Stardust a year later.</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Casino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctor Casino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also suspect that you could transfer almost all the lyrics of &quot;Baby Jump&quot; into this song and it would basically work...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also suspect that you could transfer almost all the lyrics of &#8220;Baby Jump&#8221; into this song and it would basically work&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Casino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctor Casino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to chime in and note for interested parties that we got rather well into the Nabokov discussion way back on &lt;A&gt;&quot;Baby Jump&quot;&lt;/A&gt;.  (I am staggered and amazed to realize that this was two years ago.)  Sukrat in particular gets some good observations in!

Another line of this song that improves greatly if read as &quot;in character&quot; is &quot;Her friends are / So jealous / You know how bad girls get,&quot; which is a banal filler line on its face, but maybe works if it&#039;s intended as something the teacher offers as an explanation in the staff room.  &quot;Your students have been saying WHAT?  Oh, those kids!  You know how girls get...&quot;

It&#039;s a reach, though.  I think the song is okay, maybe not as pretentious and cold as it&#039;s being read here, but certainly a bit dull.  It also exposes one of the worst tendencies of The Police: the chorus is just one line repeated over and over.  When it&#039;s done with some energy I forgive it (&quot;Canary in a Coal Mine&quot;) but even so, for a guy apparently overflowing with impressions of himself as a writer, Sting really couldn&#039;t be bothered when it came to hooks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to chime in and note for interested parties that we got rather well into the Nabokov discussion way back on <a>&#8220;Baby Jump&#8221;</a>.  (I am staggered and amazed to realize that this was two years ago.)  Sukrat in particular gets some good observations in!</p>
<p>Another line of this song that improves greatly if read as &#8220;in character&#8221; is &#8220;Her friends are / So jealous / You know how bad girls get,&#8221; which is a banal filler line on its face, but maybe works if it&#8217;s intended as something the teacher offers as an explanation in the staff room.  &#8220;Your students have been saying WHAT?  Oh, those kids!  You know how girls get&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a reach, though.  I think the song is okay, maybe not as pretentious and cold as it&#8217;s being read here, but certainly a bit dull.  It also exposes one of the worst tendencies of The Police: the chorus is just one line repeated over and over.  When it&#8217;s done with some energy I forgive it (&#8220;Canary in a Coal Mine&#8221;) but even so, for a guy apparently overflowing with impressions of himself as a writer, Sting really couldn&#8217;t be bothered when it came to hooks!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, to anyone still asking &quot;Does Billy kill himself at the end?&quot; you say &quot;Play the first minute of the film again!&quot;

Anyroad, there is another POV:

The Boomtown Rats&#039; &quot;Mary of the fourth form&quot; was the usual &#039;teenbait&#039; fantasy figure a&#039;la every rockband passim, whereas this was more studied, and seemingly more real for the reactions of the minor characters of the staff in the staffroom, and the friends of the girl, and so on. The story doesn&#039;t end, maybe because in the majority of cases, the story fades out into nothing anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, to anyone still asking &#8220;Does Billy kill himself at the end?&#8221; you say &#8220;Play the first minute of the film again!&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyroad, there is another POV:</p>
<p>The Boomtown Rats&#8217; &#8220;Mary of the fourth form&#8221; was the usual &#8216;teenbait&#8217; fantasy figure a&#8217;la every rockband passim, whereas this was more studied, and seemingly more real for the reactions of the minor characters of the staff in the staffroom, and the friends of the girl, and so on. The story doesn&#8217;t end, maybe because in the majority of cases, the story fades out into nothing anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: wichita lineman</title>
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		<dc:creator>wichita lineman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Q-style, or the Feb &#039;95 Mojo cover story, &quot;The Fugitive: is it time Sting was forgiven?&quot;

(Answer has to be &quot;No&quot;, dunnit?)

Sting aside, The Police have had an astonishingly easy ride on Popular til now. Taylor, have you checked the Walking On The Moon thread? &quot;I hope my legs don&#039;t break&quot;: I was on my ownsome. 

I remember a Behind The Music-style doc on Sting from the early 90s in which he said something along the lines of &quot;I&#039;d hate it if people thought I was preaching and patronising about the future of the rainforest...&quot; It then cut straight to a shot of him, in a lecture room, stick in hand, pointing to a map of the Amazon. 

And then there&#039;s Quadrophenia. Where do you start?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q-style, or the Feb &#8217;95 Mojo cover story, &#8220;The Fugitive: is it time Sting was forgiven?&#8221;</p>
<p>(Answer has to be &#8220;No&#8221;, dunnit?)</p>
<p>Sting aside, The Police have had an astonishingly easy ride on Popular til now. Taylor, have you checked the Walking On The Moon thread? &#8220;I hope my legs don&#8217;t break&#8221;: I was on my ownsome. </p>
<p>I remember a Behind The Music-style doc on Sting from the early 90s in which he said something along the lines of &#8220;I&#8217;d hate it if people thought I was preaching and patronising about the future of the rainforest&#8230;&#8221; It then cut straight to a shot of him, in a lecture room, stick in hand, pointing to a map of the Amazon. </p>
<p>And then there&#8217;s Quadrophenia. Where do you start?</p>
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		<title>By: Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#24 - I agree wholeheartedly. The only &quot;serious&quot; pro-Sting piece I can recall is that thing by Morley in India. The only good thing I can find to say about that is that it&#039;s... unexpected, placed at the end of &quot;Ask&quot;, as if the whole of New Pop has been leading up to Sting&#039;s bare chest, furrowed brow and dog-eared library card. I&#039;d &lt;I&gt;love&lt;/I&gt; to read a proper defence of this seemingly indefensible man, so long as it doesn&#039;t follow the same early-Q pattern: he&#039;s clever, he&#039;s serious about what he does, all that irrelevant claptrap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#24 &#8211; I agree wholeheartedly. The only &#8220;serious&#8221; pro-Sting piece I can recall is that thing by Morley in India. The only good thing I can find to say about that is that it&#8217;s&#8230; unexpected, placed at the end of &#8220;Ask&#8221;, as if the whole of New Pop has been leading up to Sting&#8217;s bare chest, furrowed brow and dog-eared library card. I&#8217;d <i>love</i> to read a proper defence of this seemingly indefensible man, so long as it doesn&#8217;t follow the same early-Q pattern: he&#8217;s clever, he&#8217;s serious about what he does, all that irrelevant claptrap.</p>
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		<title>By: Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The heart-throb teacher at my school was the deputy head of music, a bland-faced man with a short, fluffy centre-parting, who wore grey shirts and big baggy M&amp;S cords. He had less raw sex appeal than anyone I&#039;ve ever seen, I think, and it troubled us boys greatly, as we&#039;d spent a year or two watching &quot;Rebel Without A Cause&quot; and listening to The Birthday Party, thinking the (heartfelt) moody rebel pose was foolproof. No - this was the mid-to-late 1980s, when 16 year old girls dressed like Washington Wives, anyone who wore a leather jacket or listened to non-chart music was &quot;weird&quot;, and the number one sex symbol was this young Conservative dick. I still remember a painful night at a party, standing in the cold with my dream girl, having it explained to me that she couldn&#039;t kiss me because she was in love with Mr ******. Dear God. Another great memory: two girls choosing a certain 1985 number one by Elaine and Barbara (dodges bunny to avoid double-pronged bite-mark) as their Music GCSE performance piece, sung with REAL EMOTION right into the fool&#039;s face. Of course, nowadays I find this rather touching. At the time, their rendition was followed with much guffawing from those of us behind the door, and a gruff run-through of &quot;Like A Virgin&quot; as the blushing teens emerged into the corridor. Rotten days.

He never went near any of them, though (had a thing going on with the PE mistress). In the sixth form another chap showed up, fresh from TTC, who tried to get on &quot;our&quot; side by talking about Tim Buckley and Nick Drake, feigning astonishment that I&#039;d heard of The Crucial Three (actually, that may not have been feigned, as in retrospect it amazes me too). Sadly he was never the friend of the friendless, as we sneered at his Ben Elton appearance and highlighted mullet. He did, however, hoover up the affections of the girls in the year below - i.e. the only ones we ever had a chance with. He was even weak enough to go out for a drink with one of them, although she told me later in a moment of drunken honesty that he&#039;d refused her kind offer of sex, being all too professional. 

I look at kids now, with their cocaine orgies captured for posterity on £300 mobile phones, and I know this is paradise everyone old has dreamed of all their lives. I start shaking and barking, just like that old man in that poem by Larkin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The heart-throb teacher at my school was the deputy head of music, a bland-faced man with a short, fluffy centre-parting, who wore grey shirts and big baggy M&amp;S cords. He had less raw sex appeal than anyone I&#8217;ve ever seen, I think, and it troubled us boys greatly, as we&#8217;d spent a year or two watching &#8220;Rebel Without A Cause&#8221; and listening to The Birthday Party, thinking the (heartfelt) moody rebel pose was foolproof. No &#8211; this was the mid-to-late 1980s, when 16 year old girls dressed like Washington Wives, anyone who wore a leather jacket or listened to non-chart music was &#8220;weird&#8221;, and the number one sex symbol was this young Conservative dick. I still remember a painful night at a party, standing in the cold with my dream girl, having it explained to me that she couldn&#8217;t kiss me because she was in love with Mr ******. Dear God. Another great memory: two girls choosing a certain 1985 number one by Elaine and Barbara (dodges bunny to avoid double-pronged bite-mark) as their Music GCSE performance piece, sung with REAL EMOTION right into the fool&#8217;s face. Of course, nowadays I find this rather touching. At the time, their rendition was followed with much guffawing from those of us behind the door, and a gruff run-through of &#8220;Like A Virgin&#8221; as the blushing teens emerged into the corridor. Rotten days.</p>
<p>He never went near any of them, though (had a thing going on with the PE mistress). In the sixth form another chap showed up, fresh from TTC, who tried to get on &#8220;our&#8221; side by talking about Tim Buckley and Nick Drake, feigning astonishment that I&#8217;d heard of The Crucial Three (actually, that may not have been feigned, as in retrospect it amazes me too). Sadly he was never the friend of the friendless, as we sneered at his Ben Elton appearance and highlighted mullet. He did, however, hoover up the affections of the girls in the year below &#8211; i.e. the only ones we ever had a chance with. He was even weak enough to go out for a drink with one of them, although she told me later in a moment of drunken honesty that he&#8217;d refused her kind offer of sex, being all too professional. </p>
<p>I look at kids now, with their cocaine orgies captured for posterity on £300 mobile phones, and I know this is paradise everyone old has dreamed of all their lives. I start shaking and barking, just like that old man in that poem by Larkin.</p>
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		<title>By: pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</title>
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		<dc:creator>pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rosie&#039;s a fan, isn&#039;t she? i&#039;m quite keen to read a robust defence of sting -- even of dreams of blue turtles! -- simply because he seems so well set up for a non-stop drubbing, within all the established norms of music writing (various variants thereof)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rosie&#8217;s a fan, isn&#8217;t she? i&#8217;m quite keen to read a robust defence of sting &#8212; even of dreams of blue turtles! &#8212; simply because he seems so well set up for a non-stop drubbing, within all the established norms of music writing (various variants thereof)</p>
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		<title>By: LondonLee</title>
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		<dc:creator>LondonLee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Point taken, but Sting has the sort of personality that&#039;s hard to separate from his songs. He seems to be &lt;I&gt;there&lt;/I&gt; a lot of the time.</description>
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		<title>By: pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</title>
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		<dc:creator>pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that said, i DO think it&#039;s a clumsy line -- but its clumsiness is at a kind of meta-level: you can imagine it being fashioned (or delivered) so as to ensure we&#039;re more convinced it ISN&#039;T sting showing off but an unself-aware english teacher casting round for a way to describe a tricky situation which appears to aggrandize it (as &quot;the stuff of great novels&quot;) while in fact avoiding the moral issue (or if not more convinced, then more forcefully torn in our doubts) 

of course the novel in question also apparently evades the moral issue (but to much more powerful and unnerving effect); as invocations often do, this feels as if sting&#039;s simply helping himself to someone else&#039;s achievement, giving us the sign of the thing instead of the thing itself, which is distracting for people who have read the book, and alienating and annoying for people who haven&#039;t -- i think he&#039;s trying for something subtler and more interesting than that (but it&#039;s not so well crafted that it gets him off the hook of the lamer error)  

obviously everyone who&#039;s saying &quot;hate his voice&quot;, &quot;lame tune&quot;, etc etc, is left unscathed by all this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that said, i DO think it&#8217;s a clumsy line &#8212; but its clumsiness is at a kind of meta-level: you can imagine it being fashioned (or delivered) so as to ensure we&#8217;re more convinced it ISN&#8217;T sting showing off but an unself-aware english teacher casting round for a way to describe a tricky situation which appears to aggrandize it (as &#8220;the stuff of great novels&#8221;) while in fact avoiding the moral issue (or if not more convinced, then more forcefully torn in our doubts) </p>
<p>of course the novel in question also apparently evades the moral issue (but to much more powerful and unnerving effect); as invocations often do, this feels as if sting&#8217;s simply helping himself to someone else&#8217;s achievement, giving us the sign of the thing instead of the thing itself, which is distracting for people who have read the book, and alienating and annoying for people who haven&#8217;t &#8212; i think he&#8217;s trying for something subtler and more interesting than that (but it&#8217;s not so well crafted that it gets him off the hook of the lamer error)  </p>
<p>obviously everyone who&#8217;s saying &#8220;hate his voice&#8221;, &#8220;lame tune&#8221;, etc etc, is left unscathed by all this</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the character is delivering the lines exactly (so they&#039;re not designed to be said/sung), but the line - its pretension and clumsiness - is coming from the character rather than the singer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the character is delivering the lines exactly (so they&#8217;re not designed to be said/sung), but the line &#8211; its pretension and clumsiness &#8211; is coming from the character rather than the singer.</p>
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		<title>By: pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</title>
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		<dc:creator>pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re the clunkerline: there&#039;s two different issues, aren&#039;t there? if a bad actor plays a murderer, it&#039;s the quality of the acting we should be getting cross rather than the &quot;fact&quot; of the murder 

this is a line delivered in character, so it&#039;s not entirely fair to say it&#039;s sting that&#039;s smugly showing off (any more than it&#039;s fair call him a perve on the strength of this song); the question should really be, might a character have said a line like this (give or take the conventions of distortion re said lines when sung)? has sting realised this character well? 

(obviously even with actors we sometimes use the misbehaviour of characters they play as a useful shorthand for the flaws in their craft as an actor -- and popstars of course build up their own aura out of an amalgam of the characters they play... but to me it&#039;s one of sting&#039;s good points that he casts himself sometimes in ugly roles, as obsessives or outcasts -- so it seems a bit mean to transfer our dislike of these characters, which is surely something he&#039;s aiming for, as cast-iron proof of his failure)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re the clunkerline: there&#8217;s two different issues, aren&#8217;t there? if a bad actor plays a murderer, it&#8217;s the quality of the acting we should be getting cross rather than the &#8220;fact&#8221; of the murder </p>
<p>this is a line delivered in character, so it&#8217;s not entirely fair to say it&#8217;s sting that&#8217;s smugly showing off (any more than it&#8217;s fair call him a perve on the strength of this song); the question should really be, might a character have said a line like this (give or take the conventions of distortion re said lines when sung)? has sting realised this character well? </p>
<p>(obviously even with actors we sometimes use the misbehaviour of characters they play as a useful shorthand for the flaws in their craft as an actor &#8212; and popstars of course build up their own aura out of an amalgam of the characters they play&#8230; but to me it&#8217;s one of sting&#8217;s good points that he casts himself sometimes in ugly roles, as obsessives or outcasts &#8212; so it seems a bit mean to transfer our dislike of these characters, which is surely something he&#8217;s aiming for, as cast-iron proof of his failure)</p>
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		<title>By: LondonLee</title>
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		<dc:creator>LondonLee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a supposed educated man like Sting the Nabokov name-drop seems annoyingly autodidatic. I&#039;m all for literary allusions in pop songs as long as they&#039;re done smartly, this one just seems like blatant showing off - look, I&#039;ve read a book! I&#039;m too smart for this pop song nonsense! Which he went on to show in his earnest solo work. Look, real jazz musicians!

Our Head Boy slept with one of our English teachers. She was very young and new and in the Sixth Form she used to invite us round her flat to smoke and listen to Beatles records.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a supposed educated man like Sting the Nabokov name-drop seems annoyingly autodidatic. I&#8217;m all for literary allusions in pop songs as long as they&#8217;re done smartly, this one just seems like blatant showing off &#8211; look, I&#8217;ve read a book! I&#8217;m too smart for this pop song nonsense! Which he went on to show in his earnest solo work. Look, real jazz musicians!</p>
<p>Our Head Boy slept with one of our English teachers. She was very young and new and in the Sixth Form she used to invite us round her flat to smoke and listen to Beatles records.</p>
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		<title>By: lonepilgrim</title>
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		<dc:creator>lonepilgrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re 16 
One of the highlights of studying Drama in the 6th form at my school was going away each Autumn to the Dagenham Drama festival with Norman, our very liberal teacher. The first year we took a detour to pick up an ex pupil who he gave &#039;special attention&#039; to most of the weekend. The following year he focused his attentions on one of the Lower 6th girls - we came back one night to find the school minibus rocking from side to side.
We didn&#039;t condemn this at the time. We thought he was cool - although in retrospect it seems creepy.

When I first started working as a teacher there were a few leery male staff who would look back fondly to an earlier age where they could almost exercise &#039;droit de seigneur&#039; over the 6th form girls. I&#039;m sure that it still goes on, but perhaps less overtly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re 16<br />
One of the highlights of studying Drama in the 6th form at my school was going away each Autumn to the Dagenham Drama festival with Norman, our very liberal teacher. The first year we took a detour to pick up an ex pupil who he gave &#8216;special attention&#8217; to most of the weekend. The following year he focused his attentions on one of the Lower 6th girls &#8211; we came back one night to find the school minibus rocking from side to side.<br />
We didn&#8217;t condemn this at the time. We thought he was cool &#8211; although in retrospect it seems creepy.</p>
<p>When I first started working as a teacher there were a few leery male staff who would look back fondly to an earlier age where they could almost exercise &#8216;droit de seigneur&#8217; over the 6th form girls. I&#8217;m sure that it still goes on, but perhaps less overtly.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like vinylscot at #15, I agree that &lt;i&gt;Zenyatta Mondatta&lt;/i&gt; marked a creative slump for The Police, after which they recovered and produced much of their best work.  Sting&#039;s arrogance had really started to grate on me by now, and this single&#039;s horrendous follow-up &quot;De Do Do Do De Da Da Da&quot; made me want to chuck things at the telly.  All the boring people in residence hall loved them, and I was still enough of a snob to factor that into my dismissal.

Objectively speaking, we&#039;ve had far worse Number Ones than &quot;Don&#039;t Stand So Close To Me&quot; this year - but this is the one that gets my goat more than any other (OK, except for &quot;Coward Of The County&quot;, but it&#039;s close).  I&#039;d go into more detail, but that would involve listening to the damned thing again of my own volition... no thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like vinylscot at #15, I agree that <i>Zenyatta Mondatta</i> marked a creative slump for The Police, after which they recovered and produced much of their best work.  Sting&#8217;s arrogance had really started to grate on me by now, and this single&#8217;s horrendous follow-up &#8220;De Do Do Do De Da Da Da&#8221; made me want to chuck things at the telly.  All the boring people in residence hall loved them, and I was still enough of a snob to factor that into my dismissal.</p>
<p>Objectively speaking, we&#8217;ve had far worse Number Ones than &#8220;Don&#8217;t Stand So Close To Me&#8221; this year &#8211; but this is the one that gets my goat more than any other (OK, except for &#8220;Coward Of The County&#8221;, but it&#8217;s close).  I&#8217;d go into more detail, but that would involve listening to the damned thing again of my own volition&#8230; no thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Erithian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erithian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yet it started so well.

“Young teacher, the subject of schoolgirl fantasy” is as good an exposition line as you could wish for, and you’d imagine that Sting knew whereof he wrote (he was mainly a primary school teacher, but handled older classes during his teacher training as I understand it).  And as Conrad remarks, the intro is dark and atmospheric.  But after sketching out the story (even “strong words in the staffroom” sounds authentic) it does indeed fall away into the clunker to end them all.

Were any of you familiar with that sort of scenario?  There was a news story when I was about 15-16 about a female teacher who’d had a thing going with a boy about my age (I remember her name to this day), and I was thinking how he’d spoiled the chances of those like me by boasting about it!  I’ve already mentioned how a teacher at my school, Miss Haley, was one of the triumvirate of fantasy figures of my youth alongside Agnetha and Deborah Harry.  I never got the chance to show how maturely I’d have handled the relationship, but did get to give her a farewell kiss the summer I left school and she got married.  Sigh…

A few years later and the scenario is reversed: I’m an English language assistant at a school in Brittany, not yet 21, and the girls in some of the classes are 17 or so and very chic.  The language assistant is closer to the pupils than the teachers are (in Manchester I’d taken both of ours to United matches) and friendships can develop easily – especially in a small town where I’d often bump into the kids at weekends.   It never got dangerous, partly because I didn’t exactly look like Sting, but I was popular - when I came back after Christmas a couple of them jumped on me to give me the “bisous”.  The kiss on either cheek was a perfectly natural morning greeting, and I rather enjoyed myself that year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet it started so well.</p>
<p>“Young teacher, the subject of schoolgirl fantasy” is as good an exposition line as you could wish for, and you’d imagine that Sting knew whereof he wrote (he was mainly a primary school teacher, but handled older classes during his teacher training as I understand it).  And as Conrad remarks, the intro is dark and atmospheric.  But after sketching out the story (even “strong words in the staffroom” sounds authentic) it does indeed fall away into the clunker to end them all.</p>
<p>Were any of you familiar with that sort of scenario?  There was a news story when I was about 15-16 about a female teacher who’d had a thing going with a boy about my age (I remember her name to this day), and I was thinking how he’d spoiled the chances of those like me by boasting about it!  I’ve already mentioned how a teacher at my school, Miss Haley, was one of the triumvirate of fantasy figures of my youth alongside Agnetha and Deborah Harry.  I never got the chance to show how maturely I’d have handled the relationship, but did get to give her a farewell kiss the summer I left school and she got married.  Sigh…</p>
<p>A few years later and the scenario is reversed: I’m an English language assistant at a school in Brittany, not yet 21, and the girls in some of the classes are 17 or so and very chic.  The language assistant is closer to the pupils than the teachers are (in Manchester I’d taken both of ours to United matches) and friendships can develop easily – especially in a small town where I’d often bump into the kids at weekends.   It never got dangerous, partly because I didn’t exactly look like Sting, but I was popular &#8211; when I came back after Christmas a couple of them jumped on me to give me the “bisous”.  The kiss on either cheek was a perfectly natural morning greeting, and I rather enjoyed myself that year!</p>
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		<title>By: vinylscot</title>
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		<dc:creator>vinylscot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sting&#039;s enunciation is also less than clear on this one. I had a slightly younger friend, not familiar with the literary influences of this, who argued that the line referred to a book by &quot;Neville Carr&quot; and he wondered what the book was.

Another unfortunate incidence of a song being massive purely because it came along at the time when the band were going to have an enormous hit, no matter what they released. It was a mediocre single from a (very) mediocre album... and the follow-up was significantly worse.

To their credit, although they remained pretentious after this, I think they must have realised how poor &quot;Zenyatta&quot; was, as they did produce some better work on their remaining albums.

Many bands who made only five albums leave you wanting more, but I think there was a general sigh of relief that the Police called it a day after five. If they could have left out that third album, and made it only four, it would have been much better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sting&#8217;s enunciation is also less than clear on this one. I had a slightly younger friend, not familiar with the literary influences of this, who argued that the line referred to a book by &#8220;Neville Carr&#8221; and he wondered what the book was.</p>
<p>Another unfortunate incidence of a song being massive purely because it came along at the time when the band were going to have an enormous hit, no matter what they released. It was a mediocre single from a (very) mediocre album&#8230; and the follow-up was significantly worse.</p>
<p>To their credit, although they remained pretentious after this, I think they must have realised how poor &#8220;Zenyatta&#8221; was, as they did produce some better work on their remaining albums.</p>
<p>Many bands who made only five albums leave you wanting more, but I think there was a general sigh of relief that the Police called it a day after five. If they could have left out that third album, and made it only four, it would have been much better.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes by the time I checked it I assumed that anyone who cared would have seen the original #1 post (a long parody of Marcello) and it was getting in the way of actual discussion so I canned it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes by the time I checked it I assumed that anyone who cared would have seen the original #1 post (a long parody of Marcello) and it was getting in the way of actual discussion so I canned it.</p>
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		<title>By: wichita lineman</title>
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		<dc:creator>wichita lineman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: clunker. In search of a rhyme, it forces the song&#039;s best line from Sting: &quot;It&#039;s no use, he sees her, he starts to shake and cough&quot; would be a moment of sweaty, obsessive realism if you didn&#039;t know where it was heading.

Sting, and &quot;yes we&#039;re playing reggae&quot; issues aside, my problem with this song - also with Invisible Sun - is that the chorus is so weak. The song&#039;s poor dynamics have already been pointed out, but the chorus melody is the same as the verse melody, only desiccated. All that droning tension thrown away. What would a James Last/BBC Radio Orchestra version of DSSCTM sound like? Not as good as D-I-S-C-O or Masterblaster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: clunker. In search of a rhyme, it forces the song&#8217;s best line from Sting: &#8220;It&#8217;s no use, he sees her, he starts to shake and cough&#8221; would be a moment of sweaty, obsessive realism if you didn&#8217;t know where it was heading.</p>
<p>Sting, and &#8220;yes we&#8217;re playing reggae&#8221; issues aside, my problem with this song &#8211; also with Invisible Sun &#8211; is that the chorus is so weak. The song&#8217;s poor dynamics have already been pointed out, but the chorus melody is the same as the verse melody, only desiccated. All that droning tension thrown away. What would a James Last/BBC Radio Orchestra version of DSSCTM sound like? Not as good as D-I-S-C-O or Masterblaster.</p>
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