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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/11/bottleneck-at-capel-curig/#comment-542103</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The guy from Tesco&#039;s last night was so hammily enthusiastic you&#039;d have been forgiven for thinking he already knew his company were taking the product on.

What annoyed me most in the end was the sheer disingenuousness of all the &quot;of course the celebrity names won&#039;t shift units in this tough market&quot; talk.

(&quot;The boys&quot; were suitably contrite - for the only time in the whole series - when the beer tester failed their homebrewed pints.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guy from Tesco&#8217;s last night was so hammily enthusiastic you&#8217;d have been forgiven for thinking he already knew his company were taking the product on.</p>
<p>What annoyed me most in the end was the sheer disingenuousness of all the &#8220;of course the celebrity names won&#8217;t shift units in this tough market&#8221; talk.</p>
<p>(&#8220;The boys&#8221; were suitably contrite &#8211; for the only time in the whole series &#8211; when the beer tester failed their homebrewed pints.)</p>
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		<title>By: pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</title>
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		<dc:creator>pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also: did not see ppl i knew during the three minutes of viewing &gt;:(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also: did not see ppl i knew during the three minutes of viewing >:(</p>
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		<title>By: pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/11/bottleneck-at-capel-curig/#comment-542099</link>
		<dc:creator>pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was only able to watch about three minutes of the programme before throwing a rubber brick at the screen and going back online: 

things that annoyed me = 1. their basic dilettante sloppiness (basically they need the brewer&#039;s equiv of gordon ramsay breathing fire at them for their lazy mimsiness: &quot;do you want to do this or not? if not FUCK OFF&quot;); 2. morrissey&#039;s pleased-with-self ref to the amount of time he wouldn;t have to help ftb he is an FAMOUS ACTOR 

obv this is a set-up to sell a more interesting programme hidden inside it, viz what exactly goes on in a successful micro-brewery -- except the makers believe it needs a &quot;structure of quest&quot; and well-known-ladfaces for viewers to stay tuned to the nittygritty -- but the lesson of the watchability of hell&#039;s kitcehn usa and kitchen nightmares is that the ultradetail of &quot;how to get it right&quot; is married, in science and art, to an ethic of &quot;doing it badly should HURT YOU THE SCIENTIST/ARTIST -- in your heart if not your pocket&quot; 

all this heehee it&#039;s-a-lark-innit amateurism is an insult to the foax (doubtless naff and uncharismatic, mediawise) who already do this well, an insult dressed up as a tribute</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was only able to watch about three minutes of the programme before throwing a rubber brick at the screen and going back online: </p>
<p>things that annoyed me = 1. their basic dilettante sloppiness (basically they need the brewer&#8217;s equiv of gordon ramsay breathing fire at them for their lazy mimsiness: &#8220;do you want to do this or not? if not FUCK OFF&#8221;); 2. morrissey&#8217;s pleased-with-self ref to the amount of time he wouldn;t have to help ftb he is an FAMOUS ACTOR </p>
<p>obv this is a set-up to sell a more interesting programme hidden inside it, viz what exactly goes on in a successful micro-brewery &#8212; except the makers believe it needs a &#8220;structure of quest&#8221; and well-known-ladfaces for viewers to stay tuned to the nittygritty &#8212; but the lesson of the watchability of hell&#8217;s kitcehn usa and kitchen nightmares is that the ultradetail of &#8220;how to get it right&#8221; is married, in science and art, to an ethic of &#8220;doing it badly should HURT YOU THE SCIENTIST/ARTIST &#8212; in your heart if not your pocket&#8221; </p>
<p>all this heehee it&#8217;s-a-lark-innit amateurism is an insult to the foax (doubtless naff and uncharismatic, mediawise) who already do this well, an insult dressed up as a tribute</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blogobeer.com/2008/11/08/tasting-notes-morrissey-fox-blonde-ale/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tasting Notes from Blog O Beer&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.managementtoday.co.uk/rss/article/860434/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;4000 pubs within the next few months, says NM&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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<a href="http://www.managementtoday.co.uk/rss/article/860434/" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.managementtoday.co.uk/rss/article/860434/?referer=');">4000 pubs within the next few months, says NM</a></p>
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		<title>By: katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha I did see this in Tesco the other day and for a fraction of a second considered buying it, just to see what it was like. Then I remembered what you said, THEN I remembered what clueless arses they came across as in the programme, and finally I realised that the label alone would have put me off buying the beer if I hadn&#039;t already known what it was. God what a dreadful label. This CAMRA member ended up getting some Badger Pumpkin Ale instead, nom nom nom.

(edited to add: something else that put me off buying it was that, on watching the programme, I remembered the focus group only wanting men and the APPALLING SEXISM of it all etc etc)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha I did see this in Tesco the other day and for a fraction of a second considered buying it, just to see what it was like. Then I remembered what you said, THEN I remembered what clueless arses they came across as in the programme, and finally I realised that the label alone would have put me off buying the beer if I hadn&#8217;t already known what it was. God what a dreadful label. This CAMRA member ended up getting some Badger Pumpkin Ale instead, nom nom nom.</p>
<p>(edited to add: something else that put me off buying it was that, on watching the programme, I remembered the focus group only wanting men and the APPALLING SEXISM of it all etc etc)</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha ha, the Tesco press release does state that the show was originally going to be called Men Brewing Badly. SPOT ON! That ither brewers got a three part prime time advert for their ales.

There was plenty of conversation about Neil Morrissey&#039;s &quot;image&quot; made in the focus group including me telling a tale about his Crouch End days. Only afterwards did I consider he might be in the room next door. Oh well, if they wanted their revenge they could have pointed out that despite being quite disparaging of the beer, I drank far and away the most of it!

Oh and one other hint for anyone doing any kind of taste test. Always claim you get notes of elderflower. Its the kind of bollocks people always fall for!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha, the Tesco press release does state that the show was originally going to be called Men Brewing Badly. SPOT ON! That ither brewers got a three part prime time advert for their ales.</p>
<p>There was plenty of conversation about Neil Morrissey&#8217;s &#8220;image&#8221; made in the focus group including me telling a tale about his Crouch End days. Only afterwards did I consider he might be in the room next door. Oh well, if they wanted their revenge they could have pointed out that despite being quite disparaging of the beer, I drank far and away the most of it!</p>
<p>Oh and one other hint for anyone doing any kind of taste test. Always claim you get notes of elderflower. Its the kind of bollocks people always fall for!</p>
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