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	<title>Comments on: A Bite of Stars, A Slug of Time, and Thou &#8211; Episode 11</title>
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	<description>Lollards in the high church of low culture</description>
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		<title>By: Anne Dambrowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne Dambrowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read A&amp;G as a teen.  I was surprised how well I remember it.  Certain turns of phrase and imagery are still as striking as in my first reading.  Love the radio version.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read A&amp;G as a teen.  I was surprised how well I remember it.  Certain turns of phrase and imagery are still as striking as in my first reading.  Love the radio version.<br />
Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, weep in a way, and rejoice in another...</description>
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		<title>By: Martin Skidmore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Skidmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only Heinlein I like is a couple of short stories! By His Bootstraps is one, one of the best time paradox stories, and there&#039;s another that uses a tesseract projected into our 3-D world. I rather hate his big novels with adult content in particular.

My start with Delany was when my school friend Dave recommended him to me - I&#039;d moved from Asimov, Clarke and the like on to Dick, Sturgeon and others, and he told me how much he loved Dhalgren, though I think I first read one of the smaller ones (Einstein Intersection or Nova, I think). I read Dhalgren soon after, and many times since, and I think it is still my favourite novel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only Heinlein I like is a couple of short stories! By His Bootstraps is one, one of the best time paradox stories, and there&#8217;s another that uses a tesseract projected into our 3-D world. I rather hate his big novels with adult content in particular.</p>
<p>My start with Delany was when my school friend Dave recommended him to me &#8211; I&#8217;d moved from Asimov, Clarke and the like on to Dick, Sturgeon and others, and he told me how much he loved Dhalgren, though I think I first read one of the smaller ones (Einstein Intersection or Nova, I think). I read Dhalgren soon after, and many times since, and I think it is still my favourite novel.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Skidmore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Skidmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think we know anything about Gomorrah&#039;s offences - I think the whole narrative (where the main offence is not specifically sodomy, but a group of men wanting to rape an angel) is set in Sodom, and it was a case of wiping out all the cities of the plain (I think there were a couple of others, but I don&#039;t know their names).

I really enjoyed this episode - one of my favourite writers, as you know. I think he had a real advantage in understanding various kinds of outsider statuses and social distinctions because, as he has said, he was a black man who has at times &#039;passed&#039; as white and, less unusually, a gay or bi man who has lived as straight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think we know anything about Gomorrah&#8217;s offences &#8211; I think the whole narrative (where the main offence is not specifically sodomy, but a group of men wanting to rape an angel) is set in Sodom, and it was a case of wiping out all the cities of the plain (I think there were a couple of others, but I don&#8217;t know their names).</p>
<p>I really enjoyed this episode &#8211; one of my favourite writers, as you know. I think he had a real advantage in understanding various kinds of outsider statuses and social distinctions because, as he has said, he was a black man who has at times &#8216;passed&#8217; as white and, less unusually, a gay or bi man who has lived as straight.</p>
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		<title>By: pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</title>
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		<dc:creator>pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes i probably first read A&amp;G in my teens -- i&#039;ve had a copy of SRD&#039;s short-story collection &quot;driftglass&quot; since the mid70s -- but it left no impact at all beyond the title, which i assume means it just made no sense to me 

sadly i think we will have to leave heinlein for a while -- i&#039;d have to do a TON of catch-up reading -- even though i think he&#039;d be enormously interesting

(incidentally, i think the reason that A&amp;G isn&#039;t in my copy of dangerous visions is that i only have vol.1 of vol.1, so to speak)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes i probably first read A&#038;G in my teens &#8212; i&#8217;ve had a copy of SRD&#8217;s short-story collection &#8220;driftglass&#8221; since the mid70s &#8212; but it left no impact at all beyond the title, which i assume means it just made no sense to me </p>
<p>sadly i think we will have to leave heinlein for a while &#8212; i&#8217;d have to do a TON of catch-up reading &#8212; even though i think he&#8217;d be enormously interesting</p>
<p>(incidentally, i think the reason that A&#038;G isn&#8217;t in my copy of dangerous visions is that i only have vol.1 of vol.1, so to speak)</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Fear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Fear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, this is where science fiction begins, for me. (Well, this and Heinlein.) DANGEROUS VISIONS was published the year that I was born, and by the time I started reading SF in by the early 80s, the pages of ASIMOV&#039;S and F&amp;SF were alive with provocative ideas, rendered in prose both unflinchingly explicit and self-consciously &quot;literary.&quot; The themes and techniques of the New Wave had been thoroughly absorbed into the mainstream by a next generation of writers.

While I was reading a steady diet of that stuff, I plowed through the two volumes of DANGEROUS VISIONS and quite liked most of it - but as for &quot;Aye, and Gomorrah,&quot; I distinctly remember struggling through and not understanding a word of it. Says more about 14-year-old me than about Delany, of course.

Sinker briefly alluded to a Heinlein influence/connection, as well. He&#039;d be an interesting topic for the show; problematic, though, in that the short story wasn&#039;t really his medium, and any discussion of his influence would have to dwell primarily on the novels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, this is where science fiction begins, for me. (Well, this and Heinlein.) DANGEROUS VISIONS was published the year that I was born, and by the time I started reading SF in by the early 80s, the pages of ASIMOV&#8217;S and F&amp;SF were alive with provocative ideas, rendered in prose both unflinchingly explicit and self-consciously &#8220;literary.&#8221; The themes and techniques of the New Wave had been thoroughly absorbed into the mainstream by a next generation of writers.</p>
<p>While I was reading a steady diet of that stuff, I plowed through the two volumes of DANGEROUS VISIONS and quite liked most of it &#8211; but as for &#8220;Aye, and Gomorrah,&#8221; I distinctly remember struggling through and not understanding a word of it. Says more about 14-year-old me than about Delany, of course.</p>
<p>Sinker briefly alluded to a Heinlein influence/connection, as well. He&#8217;d be an interesting topic for the show; problematic, though, in that the short story wasn&#8217;t really his medium, and any discussion of his influence would have to dwell primarily on the novels.</p>
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