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		<title>By: Post of the Week &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Shortlist for week ending Friday 22nd August 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>Post of the Week &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Shortlist for week ending Friday 22nd August 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 13:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SwissToni</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/08/after-the-goldrush/#comment-485424</link>
		<dc:creator>SwissToni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, and shout out to Iain Percy in the Star class for some quality swearing (and honesty) on being accosted immediately after winning the gold in an incredibly tight race:

&quot;Iain.  You&#039;ve won gold!  how does it feel?&quot;
&quot;It feels fucking brilliant!&quot;

He also asked if we were still ahead of the aussies in the medal table, so clearly a top man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, and shout out to Iain Percy in the Star class for some quality swearing (and honesty) on being accosted immediately after winning the gold in an incredibly tight race:</p>
<p>&#8220;Iain.  You&#8217;ve won gold!  how does it feel?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;It feels fucking brilliant!&#8221;</p>
<p>He also asked if we were still ahead of the aussies in the medal table, so clearly a top man.</p>
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		<title>By: SwissToni</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/08/after-the-goldrush/#comment-485421</link>
		<dc:creator>SwissToni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>did you know, a propos nothing, that when he was knocked back by the British Olympic team for the 1988 games in Seoul, Coe had a serious offer to run for India?  Given the whole toff/oik angle that everyone took between him and Ovett, it&#039;s much overlooked that he is actually of Indian heritage... his father or his grandfather, I don&#039;t recall which.

As for the cycling...erm.... the world championships (and Jill Douglas) were all over the BBC a few short months ago, when GB won even more golds, mainly because the women get more than the Olympics&#039; derisory 3 track events and Pendleton won loads.

Other commentators to benefit... I put my vote in for Rob Walker in the boat at the sailing.  He was aces, and apparently has only been commentating on the sport this year.  The British team clearly like him and his enthusiasm is infectious.  

Chris Hoy is the big British winner of these games.  He&#039;s the reigning Olympic champion in 4 disciplines (the 1km he won in Athens - his specialist event - was dropped).  In the pantheon of British sporting legends, he&#039;s right up there, and I don&#039;t think he&#039;s finished yet.  Apparently he is a lovely man, but I imagine he struggles to buy trousers.

ST</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>did you know, a propos nothing, that when he was knocked back by the British Olympic team for the 1988 games in Seoul, Coe had a serious offer to run for India?  Given the whole toff/oik angle that everyone took between him and Ovett, it&#8217;s much overlooked that he is actually of Indian heritage&#8230; his father or his grandfather, I don&#8217;t recall which.</p>
<p>As for the cycling&#8230;erm&#8230;. the world championships (and Jill Douglas) were all over the BBC a few short months ago, when GB won even more golds, mainly because the women get more than the Olympics&#8217; derisory 3 track events and Pendleton won loads.</p>
<p>Other commentators to benefit&#8230; I put my vote in for Rob Walker in the boat at the sailing.  He was aces, and apparently has only been commentating on the sport this year.  The British team clearly like him and his enthusiasm is infectious.  </p>
<p>Chris Hoy is the big British winner of these games.  He&#8217;s the reigning Olympic champion in 4 disciplines (the 1km he won in Athens &#8211; his specialist event &#8211; was dropped).  In the pantheon of British sporting legends, he&#8217;s right up there, and I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s finished yet.  Apparently he is a lovely man, but I imagine he struggles to buy trousers.</p>
<p>ST</p>
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		<title>By: CarsmileSteve</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/08/after-the-goldrush/#comment-484270</link>
		<dc:creator>CarsmileSteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coe got his peerage so he could be in Major&#039;s government after he lost his Commons seat, not for sporting reasons, innit.</description>
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		<title>By: rosie</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/08/after-the-goldrush/#comment-483631</link>
		<dc:creator>rosie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose the problem Rebecca has is that, however many Olympic medals she may win in the future, they will never feel as good as these two.  Especially the first of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose the problem Rebecca has is that, however many Olympic medals she may win in the future, they will never feel as good as these two.  Especially the first of them.</p>
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		<title>By: katstevens</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/08/after-the-goldrush/#comment-483620</link>
		<dc:creator>katstevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really hope Rebecca can hang on at the top for another four years at least - swimmers can hang around winning stuff for ages (see G. Hackett) but if you start off v successful when you&#039;re a teenager then after a while you do run the risk of burn-out (much like tennis players!) or having a sudden &#039;omg i have wasted my life I shall give up swimming and become a dentist&#039; moment, or - worst of all - never being quite as good as you were when you were a teenager.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really hope Rebecca can hang on at the top for another four years at least &#8211; swimmers can hang around winning stuff for ages (see G. Hackett) but if you start off v successful when you&#8217;re a teenager then after a while you do run the risk of burn-out (much like tennis players!) or having a sudden &#8216;omg i have wasted my life I shall give up swimming and become a dentist&#8217; moment, or &#8211; worst of all &#8211; never being quite as good as you were when you were a teenager.</p>
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		<title>By: rosie</title>
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		<dc:creator>rosie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been very cynical about how much cycling we are likely to see on the telly in the next four years.  I rather enjoy watching &lt;em&gt;some&lt;/em&gt; track cycling and would welcome more opportunities to do so, both live and on the telly.  Unfortunately I don&#039;t think there is a velodrome closer than Manchester.  So much for capitalising on our success to increase popular participation.

Oh, and two golds got Kelly Holmes a damehood. Will either or both of the Rebeccae? get one?  And if not, why not?  And what should Chris Hoy get?  A peerage?  And why did Coe get a peerage and Ovett not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been very cynical about how much cycling we are likely to see on the telly in the next four years.  I rather enjoy watching <em>some</em> track cycling and would welcome more opportunities to do so, both live and on the telly.  Unfortunately I don&#8217;t think there is a velodrome closer than Manchester.  So much for capitalising on our success to increase popular participation.</p>
<p>Oh, and two golds got Kelly Holmes a damehood. Will either or both of the Rebeccae? get one?  And if not, why not?  And what should Chris Hoy get?  A peerage?  And why did Coe get a peerage and Ovett not?</p>
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		<title>By: CarsmileSteve</title>
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		<dc:creator>CarsmileSteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also i don&#039;t think torvill &amp; dean are good examples as we haven&#039;t had anyone as good as them since, whereas the rowing chaps (and navy dude Peter Reed in partic.) could very easily create additional Famous Rower slots...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also i don&#8217;t think torvill &#038; dean are good examples as we haven&#8217;t had anyone as good as them since, whereas the rowing chaps (and navy dude Peter Reed in partic.) could very easily create additional Famous Rower slots&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: CarsmileSteve</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/08/after-the-goldrush/#comment-483608</link>
		<dc:creator>CarsmileSteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahahaa, i was wondering who would be the first to swear! my money was on pommel horse kid, but he was a good boy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahahaa, i was wondering who would be the first to swear! my money was on pommel horse kid, but he was a good boy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Erithian</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/08/after-the-goldrush/#comment-483592</link>
		<dc:creator>Erithian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are all kinds of places to go into the Ohuruogu debate and this isn&#039;t really one - but FWIW I think she was maybe badly advised after she won the worlds last year.  That was the moment most of the GBP got to hear of her, and instead of being defensive (which you can perfectly understand) she could have patiently set out the circs - how fatally easy it is for an innocent athlete to fall foul of the procedures to catch cheats, and the fact that those whose job it is to catch cheats clearly don&#039;t think she is one.  But best of British to her.

Adlington&#039;s other &quot;angle&quot; is the Mansfield factor - does this make her the most famous Mansfielder and not Alvin Stardust?  You wouldn&#039;t call her hott exactly but that didn&#039;t stop Sally Gunnell.

Probable fame if only of the YouTube variety awaits bronze-medal windsurfer Bryony Shaw for saying &quot;I&#039;m so fucking happy&quot; live on BBC1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are all kinds of places to go into the Ohuruogu debate and this isn&#8217;t really one &#8211; but FWIW I think she was maybe badly advised after she won the worlds last year.  That was the moment most of the GBP got to hear of her, and instead of being defensive (which you can perfectly understand) she could have patiently set out the circs &#8211; how fatally easy it is for an innocent athlete to fall foul of the procedures to catch cheats, and the fact that those whose job it is to catch cheats clearly don&#8217;t think she is one.  But best of British to her.</p>
<p>Adlington&#8217;s other &#8220;angle&#8221; is the Mansfield factor &#8211; does this make her the most famous Mansfielder and not Alvin Stardust?  You wouldn&#8217;t call her hott exactly but that didn&#8217;t stop Sally Gunnell.</p>
<p>Probable fame if only of the YouTube variety awaits bronze-medal windsurfer Bryony Shaw for saying &#8220;I&#8217;m so fucking happy&#8221; live on BBC1.</p>
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		<title>By: lex</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/08/after-the-goldrush/#comment-483556</link>
		<dc:creator>lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &#039;controversy&#039; over Ohuruogu&#039;s medal is v depressing, it is astonishing how many ignorant people still feel the need to shoot their mouths off about a subject they clearly have no knowledge beyond tabloid headlines about. The media isn&#039;t helping either, all these articles referring to the &quot;question marks&quot; over her win are completely ridiculous - what question marks? There are no question marks! I don&#039;t think she should have to defend herself yet again. Hopefully the fact that the athletics establishment is backing her so strongly will count in her favour.

Tom Daley has a few more Games yet to evade the &quot;pub quiz answer&quot; fate! I think if Shanaze Reade wins the BMX event she could definitely score high on the fame formula (opinionated, photogenic, &#039;youth&#039;-orientated mildly dangerous sport &amp;c &amp;c). Adlington and Hoy probably most likely to become famous &quot;sports establishment&quot; faces ie the Sue Barkers of a decade henceforth.

James Cracknell is as famous as Pinsent and Redgrave! He is so hott.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8216;controversy&#8217; over Ohuruogu&#8217;s medal is v depressing, it is astonishing how many ignorant people still feel the need to shoot their mouths off about a subject they clearly have no knowledge beyond tabloid headlines about. The media isn&#8217;t helping either, all these articles referring to the &#8220;question marks&#8221; over her win are completely ridiculous &#8211; what question marks? There are no question marks! I don&#8217;t think she should have to defend herself yet again. Hopefully the fact that the athletics establishment is backing her so strongly will count in her favour.</p>
<p>Tom Daley has a few more Games yet to evade the &#8220;pub quiz answer&#8221; fate! I think if Shanaze Reade wins the BMX event she could definitely score high on the fame formula (opinionated, photogenic, &#8216;youth&#8217;-orientated mildly dangerous sport &amp;c &amp;c). Adlington and Hoy probably most likely to become famous &#8220;sports establishment&#8221; faces ie the Sue Barkers of a decade henceforth.</p>
<p>James Cracknell is as famous as Pinsent and Redgrave! He is so hott.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/08/after-the-goldrush/#comment-483551</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes I think cycling may now officially be a Not Rub sport in the UK, as the events have all been shown to not be as ker-r-r-rAYZY as reputation suggested, and actually offer slightly different flavours of sportsness to other stuff on offer. (The awesome passive-aggressiveness of the you go first - no you go first section of the sprint!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I think cycling may now officially be a Not Rub sport in the UK, as the events have all been shown to not be as ker-r-r-rAYZY as reputation suggested, and actually offer slightly different flavours of sportsness to other stuff on offer. (The awesome passive-aggressiveness of the you go first &#8211; no you go first section of the sprint!)</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/08/after-the-goldrush/#comment-483544</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first obvious test of all this famousity will be the Sports Personality of the Year which has gone in a week from being shoo-in for Rebecca Adlington to a wide open field in a week (Chris Hoy is also supposed to be a v.v. nice man). 

The other thing to bear in mind is the Rubness Of Sport in the UK publics mind may well change during this process. One assumes there might be a bit more clamour to screen the next Cycling World Championships since we own the sport.

And a corollary to all of this, is the potential knock on effect on the presenters. Jill Douglas, our girl at the velodrome, will be happy as they have gone to her more often than any of the secondary sport presenters. Should be good for her career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first obvious test of all this famousity will be the Sports Personality of the Year which has gone in a week from being shoo-in for Rebecca Adlington to a wide open field in a week (Chris Hoy is also supposed to be a v.v. nice man). </p>
<p>The other thing to bear in mind is the Rubness Of Sport in the UK publics mind may well change during this process. One assumes there might be a bit more clamour to screen the next Cycling World Championships since we own the sport.</p>
<p>And a corollary to all of this, is the potential knock on effect on the presenters. Jill Douglas, our girl at the velodrome, will be happy as they have gone to her more often than any of the secondary sport presenters. Should be good for her career.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/08/after-the-goldrush/#comment-483483</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom Daley&#039;s not finished yet... he&#039;s still got the individual event to go. And he&#039;s certainly being groomed for media success - in fact, I think he&#039;s got Beckham&#039;s marketing people behind him. His pre-games press conference featured three separate mentions of sponsors! Not bad for a 14 year old.

Also.... &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/diving/7570784.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;comedy Olympics diving headline&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Daley&#8217;s not finished yet&#8230; he&#8217;s still got the individual event to go. And he&#8217;s certainly being groomed for media success &#8211; in fact, I think he&#8217;s got Beckham&#8217;s marketing people behind him. His pre-games press conference featured three separate mentions of sponsors! Not bad for a 14 year old.</p>
<p>Also&#8230;. <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/diving/7570784.stm" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/diving/7570784.stm?referer=');">comedy Olympics diving headline</a>.</p>
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