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	<title>Comments on: Europop 2008: Quarter-Final 1 &#8211; Switzerland v Germany</title>
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	<description>Lollards in the high church of low culture</description>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/06/europop-2008-quarter-final-1-switzerland-v-germany/#comment-434511</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;ve also sussed why we were getting so many downloads, but no concommitant hits :-(

during a recent event we allowed external sites to link to podcast files, and never removed that. i&#039;ve just done so. we were getting hammered by some anonymous mp3 indexing thing that was using us as storage.

i am a massive bandwidth spoilsport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ve also sussed why we were getting so many downloads, but no concommitant hits :-(</p>
<p>during a recent event we allowed external sites to link to podcast files, and never removed that. i&#8217;ve just done so. we were getting hammered by some anonymous mp3 indexing thing that was using us as storage.</p>
<p>i am a massive bandwidth spoilsport.</p>
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		<title>By: WBS</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/06/europop-2008-quarter-final-1-switzerland-v-germany/#comment-434463</link>
		<dc:creator>WBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That might be coz the Heinzmann is currently top 20 in Switz &amp; Germany...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That might be coz the Heinzmann is currently top 20 in Switz &amp; Germany&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/06/europop-2008-quarter-final-1-switzerland-v-germany/#comment-434450</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A close fought game with a decisive result. Europop gold.

330 downloads, 17 votes.</description>
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<p>330 downloads, 17 votes.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt DC</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/06/europop-2008-quarter-final-1-switzerland-v-germany/#comment-434360</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What that guy said.</description>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/06/europop-2008-quarter-final-1-switzerland-v-germany/#comment-434113</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to the shortened match time you only have until tomorrow lunchtime to vote in this - JSL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to the shortened match time you only have until tomorrow lunchtime to vote in this &#8211; JSL!</p>
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		<title>By: Kat but logged out innit</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/06/europop-2008-quarter-final-1-switzerland-v-germany/#comment-433470</link>
		<dc:creator>Kat but logged out innit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 08:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Turkish management highly approves of both sets of tactics here, however the Swiss striker may just have the edge over the Teutonic Techno and their 4-2-floor defences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Turkish management highly approves of both sets of tactics here, however the Swiss striker may just have the edge over the Teutonic Techno and their 4-2-floor defences.</p>
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		<title>By: lockedintheattic</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/06/europop-2008-quarter-final-1-switzerland-v-germany/#comment-433469</link>
		<dc:creator>lockedintheattic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 08:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with Matt about the German track - it&#039;s just too much Junior Boys for me to be able to consider it as Geramn, especially after the controversy over Germany&#039;s first group game. There is so much good German music out there to not need to pick stuff like this.

That&#039;s not to say my vote for Switzerland is purely based on a negative - I do thing Stefanie Heinzmann is better than a lot of that retro white girl stuff that&#039;s around at the moment, her voice is distinct and interesting enough to make it stand out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Matt about the German track &#8211; it&#8217;s just too much Junior Boys for me to be able to consider it as Geramn, especially after the controversy over Germany&#8217;s first group game. There is so much good German music out there to not need to pick stuff like this.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say my vote for Switzerland is purely based on a negative &#8211; I do thing Stefanie Heinzmann is better than a lot of that retro white girl stuff that&#8217;s around at the moment, her voice is distinct and interesting enough to make it stand out.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt DC</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/06/europop-2008-quarter-final-1-switzerland-v-germany/#comment-433243</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Switzerland - I&#039;ve heard FAR too much stuff that sounds like this lately, I suspect we all have, but this is a pretty good example of the genre. Good backing vocals and tubular bells clanging about in the background, and just the right amount of bounce to avoid getting mired in Adele/Duffy slush. I don&#039;t feel like it quite takes off though, and I&#039;ve got a feeling this side was trotted out tactically, in anticipation of more German house, to hoover up the trad pop votes. 

Germany - The Swiss entry would (and by all rights should) be getting a much tougher game. This is the better track, I love how the slow opener build up and the chorus loops over the flowering groove. But the problem is it&#039;s just not German enough - there&#039;s too much Junior Boys in there and I can&#039;t separate the original source material in my mind. It&#039;s fantastic source material but when there&#039;s so much of Tensnake&#039;s own stuff (not to mention the whole history of German pop) that&#039;s just as good, if not better, it just feels like a copout. I&#039;m undecided, leaning Switzerland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Switzerland &#8211; I&#8217;ve heard FAR too much stuff that sounds like this lately, I suspect we all have, but this is a pretty good example of the genre. Good backing vocals and tubular bells clanging about in the background, and just the right amount of bounce to avoid getting mired in Adele/Duffy slush. I don&#8217;t feel like it quite takes off though, and I&#8217;ve got a feeling this side was trotted out tactically, in anticipation of more German house, to hoover up the trad pop votes. </p>
<p>Germany &#8211; The Swiss entry would (and by all rights should) be getting a much tougher game. This is the better track, I love how the slow opener build up and the chorus loops over the flowering groove. But the problem is it&#8217;s just not German enough &#8211; there&#8217;s too much Junior Boys in there and I can&#8217;t separate the original source material in my mind. It&#8217;s fantastic source material but when there&#8217;s so much of Tensnake&#8217;s own stuff (not to mention the whole history of German pop) that&#8217;s just as good, if not better, it just feels like a copout. I&#8217;m undecided, leaning Switzerland.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/06/europop-2008-quarter-final-1-switzerland-v-germany/#comment-433222</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t you mean the Canadians might be in trouble!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you mean the Canadians might be in trouble!</p>
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		<title>By: koganbot</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/06/europop-2008-quarter-final-1-switzerland-v-germany/#comment-433218</link>
		<dc:creator>koganbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm. Let&#039;s see now. The Swiss too have been suckered into the stylized style that symbolizes style retro thing, which I&#039;ll always feel extremely distanced from. Nonetheless there&#039;ve been moving results in said symbolically stylized style from the likes of Duffy, Winehouse, and Cilmi. And this isn&#039;t awful by any means, just not &lt;i&gt;there&lt;/i&gt;, either as melody or performance.

The Germans get totally blandly blah and blank vocals from their Canadian frontboys, the merit of which is that the singing doesn&#039;t distract the bass and synths from doing their beauty thing; in fact, I have occasional moments where translucent beauty shows through the singers&#039; blankness. That said, the Germans&#039; might have been in trouble had the Swiss not scored a few own goals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm. Let&#8217;s see now. The Swiss too have been suckered into the stylized style that symbolizes style retro thing, which I&#8217;ll always feel extremely distanced from. Nonetheless there&#8217;ve been moving results in said symbolically stylized style from the likes of Duffy, Winehouse, and Cilmi. And this isn&#8217;t awful by any means, just not <i>there</i>, either as melody or performance.</p>
<p>The Germans get totally blandly blah and blank vocals from their Canadian frontboys, the merit of which is that the singing doesn&#8217;t distract the bass and synths from doing their beauty thing; in fact, I have occasional moments where translucent beauty shows through the singers&#8217; blankness. That said, the Germans&#8217; might have been in trouble had the Swiss not scored a few own goals.</p>
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		<title>By: koganbot</title>
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		<dc:creator>koganbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone is having the same trouble I am, the German track has an IMEEM stream &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imeem.com/spikespeigel26/music/C5Drr1zT/junior_boys_fm_tensnake_remix&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone is having the same trouble I am, the German track has an IMEEM stream <a href="http://www.imeem.com/spikespeigel26/music/C5Drr1zT/junior_boys_fm_tensnake_remix" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.imeem.com/spikespeigel26/music/C5Drr1zT/junior_boys_fm_tensnake_remix?referer=');">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: koganbot</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/06/europop-2008-quarter-final-1-switzerland-v-germany/#comment-433201</link>
		<dc:creator>koganbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m only getting about two seconds of the German track.

(I mean, I know that Lex likes minimal, but not &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; minimal)</description>
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<p>(I mean, I know that Lex likes minimal, but not <i>that</i> minimal)</p>
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