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	<title>Comments on: Best Ever Doctor Who Cliffhangers As Chosen By Me</title>
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		<title>By: SteveM</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/06/best-ever-doctor-who-cliffhangers-as-chosen-by-me/#comment-458461</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emperor Dalek "PLEASE DO NOT SWEAR"</description>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most important fact that must not be lost about the ecclescake bad wolf cliffhanger is that the final flourish in the speech

 “Rose,” “Yes Doctor?” “I’m coming to get you!”

is much what the presenter (Davina) always said during evictions in Big Brother UK.</description>
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<p> “Rose,” “Yes Doctor?” “I’m coming to get you!”</p>
<p>is much what the presenter (Davina) always said during evictions in Big Brother UK.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Dalek Invasion of Earth, ep. 1 is pretty great, and has the benefit of being iconic in its way: the doctor cornered at the edge of the river and out of the Thames rises the creature we've been waiting for: a Dalek.

Of course, this is slightly spoiled by wondering what the dalek was doing in the Thames (fishing?). There are perfectly good bridges (vis the famous publicity shot of the daleks on Westminster Bridge).

The cliffhanger that scared me the most was Seeds of Doom ep 1. In the Antarctic Base, a crew member goes to see to his sick friend, but the bed is empty and in the dark corridors his totally mutated attacks him, strangling him to death.

I didn't sleep for a week. (I was 7).

The Bad Wolf ending is unusual in its degree of sheer US-style heroism: 'I'm going to rescue Rose from the middle of the dalek fleet, save the earth and then wipe every last stinking dalek out of the sky'. It's not really a 'peril' cliffhanger, but a kind of 'how on earth is he going to manage THAT' cliffhanger.

One of the most puzzling and exciting cliffhangers of my childhood was Deadly Assassin 1. The doctor appearing the assassinate the Time Lord President. The next week of school we were all full of theories. Which has to be a sign of a good episode ending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dalek Invasion of Earth, ep. 1 is pretty great, and has the benefit of being iconic in its way: the doctor cornered at the edge of the river and out of the Thames rises the creature we&#8217;ve been waiting for: a Dalek.</p>
<p>Of course, this is slightly spoiled by wondering what the dalek was doing in the Thames (fishing?). There are perfectly good bridges (vis the famous publicity shot of the daleks on Westminster Bridge).</p>
<p>The cliffhanger that scared me the most was Seeds of Doom ep 1. In the Antarctic Base, a crew member goes to see to his sick friend, but the bed is empty and in the dark corridors his totally mutated attacks him, strangling him to death.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t sleep for a week. (I was 7).</p>
<p>The Bad Wolf ending is unusual in its degree of sheer US-style heroism: &#8216;I&#8217;m going to rescue Rose from the middle of the dalek fleet, save the earth and then wipe every last stinking dalek out of the sky&#8217;. It&#8217;s not really a &#8216;peril&#8217; cliffhanger, but a kind of &#8216;how on earth is he going to manage THAT&#8217; cliffhanger.</p>
<p>One of the most puzzling and exciting cliffhangers of my childhood was Deadly Assassin 1. The doctor appearing the assassinate the Time Lord President. The next week of school we were all full of theories. Which has to be a sign of a good episode ending.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/06/best-ever-doctor-who-cliffhangers-as-chosen-by-me/#comment-452299</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 10:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think (assuming it's fake) that it's actually fairly clever of RTD to do this - gently reminding attached-to-Tennant new viewers that a Doctor's tenure is finite and drawing the sting for when he does go (especially if his going coincides with the intermittent transmission period we've got coming up)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think (assuming it&#8217;s fake) that it&#8217;s actually fairly clever of RTD to do this - gently reminding attached-to-Tennant new viewers that a Doctor&#8217;s tenure is finite and drawing the sting for when he does go (especially if his going coincides with the intermittent transmission period we&#8217;ve got coming up)</p>
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		<title>By: crag</title>
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		<dc:creator>crag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 10:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem w/ Saturdays cliffhanger, although it was indeed a total WTF moment, is that any resolution is going to be a disapointment- either Tennant regenerates or he doesnt. If the former happens it'll give Doc#11 the worst start for any doctor since the McCoy/Baker travesties of the 80s because the audience havent had any time to prepare themselves for Ten's farewell or to get used to the idea of whoever the incumbent Doc might be(Please not James Nesbit!Actually Julian Rhind-Tutt gets my vote). If its the latter then it'll just cheapen the whole thrill that you get with a genuine regeneration and take away the impact from when Tennant actually does leave. RTD has basically written himself into a corner from which there is no real chance of a satisfying resolution- although i'm obviously hoping to be proven wrong tonight...
Fave cliffhanger thats not been mentioned-Image of Fendhal ep. 2 Tom Baker has his mind taken over by a spooky alien skull- totally freaked me out aged 4 and still pretty disturbing when i saw it again a year or so back......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem w/ Saturdays cliffhanger, although it was indeed a total WTF moment, is that any resolution is going to be a disapointment- either Tennant regenerates or he doesnt. If the former happens it&#8217;ll give Doc#11 the worst start for any doctor since the McCoy/Baker travesties of the 80s because the audience havent had any time to prepare themselves for Ten&#8217;s farewell or to get used to the idea of whoever the incumbent Doc might be(Please not James Nesbit!Actually Julian Rhind-Tutt gets my vote). If its the latter then it&#8217;ll just cheapen the whole thrill that you get with a genuine regeneration and take away the impact from when Tennant actually does leave. RTD has basically written himself into a corner from which there is no real chance of a satisfying resolution- although i&#8217;m obviously hoping to be proven wrong tonight&#8230;<br />
Fave cliffhanger thats not been mentioned-Image of Fendhal ep. 2 Tom Baker has his mind taken over by a spooky alien skull- totally freaked me out aged 4 and still pretty disturbing when i saw it again a year or so back&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: chap</title>
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		<dc:creator>chap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you got The Ark in there, it's a favourite of mine - I've read a few best CH lists on t'web, and yours is the first to include it.</description>
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		<title>By: Tracer Hand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracer Hand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a recent fan, I wondered why the BAD WOLF cliffhanger from last week wasn't even mentioned this week! Maybe we'll never know.</description>
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		<title>By: SteveM</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/06/best-ever-doctor-who-cliffhangers-as-chosen-by-me/#comment-448803</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>even tho I have enjoyed this series a lot the next week reel came dangerously close to becoming 'thing i most look fwd to about an episode' at some points. ridiculous!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>even tho I have enjoyed this series a lot the next week reel came dangerously close to becoming &#8216;thing i most look fwd to about an episode&#8217; at some points. ridiculous!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Farrell</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/06/best-ever-doctor-who-cliffhangers-as-chosen-by-me/#comment-448779</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Farrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My memory is going: was the "I'm coming for you!" at the end of Bad Wolf or the start of the next one? If the former I think that makes for a a fine cliffhanger in itself, not least because its effect on the Daleks is exactly the same as on us: getting them running around going "Oh noes what is the Doctor planning?"

I hates and hates and hates the "next week" reel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My memory is going: was the &#8220;I&#8217;m coming for you!&#8221; at the end of Bad Wolf or the start of the next one? If the former I think that makes for a a fine cliffhanger in itself, not least because its effect on the Daleks is exactly the same as on us: getting them running around going &#8220;Oh noes what is the Doctor planning?&#8221;</p>
<p>I hates and hates and hates the &#8220;next week&#8221; reel.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cliffhangers haven't been great, but it's resolutions nu-Who really doesn't seem to be able to do. Rise Of The Cybermen, The Impossible Planet, Utopia, Sontarans had so-so cliffhangers ruined by some cop-out the next week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cliffhangers haven&#8217;t been great, but it&#8217;s resolutions nu-Who really doesn&#8217;t seem to be able to do. Rise Of The Cybermen, The Impossible Planet, Utopia, Sontarans had so-so cliffhangers ruined by some cop-out the next week.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveM</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well there is SOME fun in rewatching old Losts to notice clues or references to things before the reveals, explanations, new links etc. although I haven't done as much of this as I thought I would.

Lost has had some brilliant cliffhangers too over the 4 series but obv this is a more integral part of that show as it's one big arc unlike Who (where the cliffhangers for nu-Who multi-parters have usually been sucky).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well there is SOME fun in rewatching old Losts to notice clues or references to things before the reveals, explanations, new links etc. although I haven&#8217;t done as much of this as I thought I would.</p>
<p>Lost has had some brilliant cliffhangers too over the 4 series but obv this is a more integral part of that show as it&#8217;s one big arc unlike Who (where the cliffhangers for nu-Who multi-parters have usually been sucky).</p>
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		<title>By: Andy M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cult of the story arc is becoming ridiculous, especially in US series. Stuff like Lost and Heroes is completely unwatchable the 2nd time around, so much emphasis has been placed on hiding then revealing stuff, with little thought as to the quality of said stuff (I can't stop watching Lost as it airs but Heroes has used up its reserve of good will from me now). Why anyone would want to buy a boxset of Lost episodes they've already seen I have no idea. It's like buying 20 hours of 12 month old Eastenders episodes. Sorry, going a bit OT here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cult of the story arc is becoming ridiculous, especially in US series. Stuff like Lost and Heroes is completely unwatchable the 2nd time around, so much emphasis has been placed on hiding then revealing stuff, with little thought as to the quality of said stuff (I can&#8217;t stop watching Lost as it airs but Heroes has used up its reserve of good will from me now). Why anyone would want to buy a boxset of Lost episodes they&#8217;ve already seen I have no idea. It&#8217;s like buying 20 hours of 12 month old Eastenders episodes. Sorry, going a bit OT here.</p>
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		<title>By: aldo</title>
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		<dc:creator>aldo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(I have firm memories of other Pertwee bits, like the Gel Guards in 3 Docs, Ogrons, Sea Devils, Bernard Holley in a gold leotard, but I can't tell for sure whether it was from watching the serials or from appearances on Pebble Mill, Blue Peter etc - although I can't believe I was watching Blue Peter and not Who.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I have firm memories of other Pertwee bits, like the Gel Guards in 3 Docs, Ogrons, Sea Devils, Bernard Holley in a gold leotard, but I can&#8217;t tell for sure whether it was from watching the serials or from appearances on Pebble Mill, Blue Peter etc - although I can&#8217;t believe I was watching Blue Peter and not Who.)</p>
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		<title>By: aldo</title>
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		<dc:creator>aldo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm positive press releases have confirmed DT is in at least the Christmas special. 

Yes, Mark, I am but a sapling. The first Who I remember in real-time is Carnival Of Monsters, distinct memories of the Doctor and Jo inside the machine, wandering about on the giant circuit boards. I am also, however, sad enough to be a big enough Who fan to have obsessively watched it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m positive press releases have confirmed DT is in at least the Christmas special. </p>
<p>Yes, Mark, I am but a sapling. The first Who I remember in real-time is Carnival Of Monsters, distinct memories of the Doctor and Jo inside the machine, wandering about on the giant circuit boards. I am also, however, sad enough to be a big enough Who fan to have obsessively watched it.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveM</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"We only know that DT sticks around if we’ve “cheated” by eg. looking at set reports, news stories from non-BBC sources - it’s never been officially confirmed that he’s staying for the 09 specials etc."

Well I thought it had been officially confirmed that he'd be in the specials and the Christmas one but the sources all blur into one for me...

The 'maybe we've been fooled' thing just irks even more and I had a similar feeling with Lost and the twists and turns - almost approaching a sense of repaying bad faith towards viewers who can no longer be 'trusted' to not look at spoilers. I think spoilers are fine as long as it's only yourself you're spoiling it for. Conversely I don't get much enjoyment out of everyone speculating (often with some arrogance) about what might happen next as people are often too good at this and effectively spoil it without even realising (I am quite poor at this and rarely try and anticipate when I'm watching a story unfold - a 'lights off' approach - so it's sour grapes to an extent but sometimes I spoil myself as the thrill of knowing sometimes surpasses the thrill of not knowing). I just feel that with both Lost and Who it feels too much like the writers have gone out of their way to sow the doubt seeds but at the expense of the plot or flow of the storyline. This ties in again though with my own impatience and frustration with lengthy but dripfed arcs and sagas. I'd have preferred it if they'd been able to say DT signed up for 4-5 series from the start so you could settle down and enjoy the man at work without all the irritating speculation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We only know that DT sticks around if we’ve “cheated” by eg. looking at set reports, news stories from non-BBC sources - it’s never been officially confirmed that he’s staying for the 09 specials etc.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well I thought it had been officially confirmed that he&#8217;d be in the specials and the Christmas one but the sources all blur into one for me&#8230;</p>
<p>The &#8216;maybe we&#8217;ve been fooled&#8217; thing just irks even more and I had a similar feeling with Lost and the twists and turns - almost approaching a sense of repaying bad faith towards viewers who can no longer be &#8216;trusted&#8217; to not look at spoilers. I think spoilers are fine as long as it&#8217;s only yourself you&#8217;re spoiling it for. Conversely I don&#8217;t get much enjoyment out of everyone speculating (often with some arrogance) about what might happen next as people are often too good at this and effectively spoil it without even realising (I am quite poor at this and rarely try and anticipate when I&#8217;m watching a story unfold - a &#8216;lights off&#8217; approach - so it&#8217;s sour grapes to an extent but sometimes I spoil myself as the thrill of knowing sometimes surpasses the thrill of not knowing). I just feel that with both Lost and Who it feels too much like the writers have gone out of their way to sow the doubt seeds but at the expense of the plot or flow of the storyline. This ties in again though with my own impatience and frustration with lengthy but dripfed arcs and sagas. I&#8217;d have preferred it if they&#8217;d been able to say DT signed up for 4-5 series from the start so you could settle down and enjoy the man at work without all the irritating speculation.</p>
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		<title>By: a logged out p^nk s lord sukråt wötsit</title>
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		<dc:creator>a logged out p^nk s lord sukråt wötsit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aldo did you watch and remember hartnell in real time? i thought i was older than you?!! (lord sukrat = ilx's mark s btw) 

ANYWAY: hartnell cliffhangers i remember (traumatically) from watching em in real-time = just two i think 

1: from earth invasion daleks (whatever it's called) when the bedford van* is chased and rayed and set aflame by the dalek ships, after the resistance guy and susan have only just jumped to safety behind some rhododendrons 

2: regen of Doc1 into Doc2 (always my favourite), which was fascinating and distressing -- the first Doc2 ep i remember as being in colour (it wasn't), with pools of mercury shimmering on the planet's alien surface 

*where mum and dad worked and i lived had a bedford van as a staff vehicle, and i was often in it, hence no doubt the intensity of the identification</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aldo did you watch and remember hartnell in real time? i thought i was older than you?!! (lord sukrat = ilx&#8217;s mark s btw) </p>
<p>ANYWAY: hartnell cliffhangers i remember (traumatically) from watching em in real-time = just two i think </p>
<p>1: from earth invasion daleks (whatever it&#8217;s called) when the bedford van* is chased and rayed and set aflame by the dalek ships, after the resistance guy and susan have only just jumped to safety behind some rhododendrons </p>
<p>2: regen of Doc1 into Doc2 (always my favourite), which was fascinating and distressing &#8212; the first Doc2 ep i remember as being in colour (it wasn&#8217;t), with pools of mercury shimmering on the planet&#8217;s alien surface </p>
<p>*where mum and dad worked and i lived had a bedford van as a staff vehicle, and i was often in it, hence no doubt the intensity of the identification</p>
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		<title>By: Andy M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom @ #12: Even if you've kept yourself completely spoiler-free, no one's buying that the 10th Doctor's last words are "I'm going to regenerate" surely? I guess they've got a hard job trying to make this look like a real regeneration whilst not blowing it all here in anticipation for when Tennant finally does go. I love the idea of unexpected regeneration in the middle of a story as shock cliffhanger, but next week...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom @ #12: Even if you&#8217;ve kept yourself completely spoiler-free, no one&#8217;s buying that the 10th Doctor&#8217;s last words are &#8220;I&#8217;m going to regenerate&#8221; surely? I guess they&#8217;ve got a hard job trying to make this look like a real regeneration whilst not blowing it all here in anticipation for when Tennant finally does go. I love the idea of unexpected regeneration in the middle of a story as shock cliffhanger, but next week&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: aldo</title>
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		<dc:creator>aldo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dragonfire Ep 1 is up there with the SJS bit from the split in Five Doctors and Mary Tamm in Stones Of Blood ep 1 (NB this last one is the only vaguely convincing one of them). There's also one of these literal cliffhangers in the middle of Timelash ep 2, right where the split would be if it wasn't a 45min episode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dragonfire Ep 1 is up there with the SJS bit from the split in Five Doctors and Mary Tamm in Stones Of Blood ep 1 (NB this last one is the only vaguely convincing one of them). There&#8217;s also one of these literal cliffhangers in the middle of Timelash ep 2, right where the split would be if it wasn&#8217;t a 45min episode.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, CoD 2 is excellent too, in fact better than part 3 but it didn't shit me up remotely as much as ageing skellington.

Terminus 1 is marred slightly for me by the fact that Romo Pirate dude has "ooh it's my big line" syndrome a bit. Great set-up and situation though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, CoD 2 is excellent too, in fact better than part 3 but it didn&#8217;t shit me up remotely as much as ageing skellington.</p>
<p>Terminus 1 is marred slightly for me by the fact that Romo Pirate dude has &#8220;ooh it&#8217;s my big line&#8221; syndrome a bit. Great set-up and situation though.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wot no Dragonfire P1?

City Of Death P2 is up there for me as well: Doctor locked in dungeon in modern day Paris, escapes to 16th century Florence only to run straight into the same bloke who just locked him up is a great wtf moment.

Nearly all the cliffhangers in Inferno are great too.

The ending of Terminus P1 always sticks with me: "This is a leper ship. We're all going to die!" is a different category of threat to a bloke in a big green suit that can be briskly side-stepped at the start of the next episode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wot no Dragonfire P1?</p>
<p>City Of Death P2 is up there for me as well: Doctor locked in dungeon in modern day Paris, escapes to 16th century Florence only to run straight into the same bloke who just locked him up is a great wtf moment.</p>
<p>Nearly all the cliffhangers in Inferno are great too.</p>
<p>The ending of Terminus P1 always sticks with me: &#8220;This is a leper ship. We&#8217;re all going to die!&#8221; is a different category of threat to a bloke in a big green suit that can be briskly side-stepped at the start of the next episode.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But! We only know that DT sticks around if we've "cheated" by eg. looking at set reports, news stories from non-BBC sources - it's never been officially confirmed that he's staying for the 09 specials etc.

So it works brilliantly as a metacliffhanger too - not only "holy sh1t what happens next" but also "can they possibly have fooled us?", anticipating our deviousness and thirst for spoilers and planting mocked-up set photos etc. I'm sure I'm not atypical of fans in having first thought "oh obv it won't happen" and then thinking "but hold on....maybe...just maybe...." and letting that 5% of doubt creep in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But! We only know that DT sticks around if we&#8217;ve &#8220;cheated&#8221; by eg. looking at set reports, news stories from non-BBC sources - it&#8217;s never been officially confirmed that he&#8217;s staying for the 09 specials etc.</p>
<p>So it works brilliantly as a metacliffhanger too - not only &#8220;holy sh1t what happens next&#8221; but also &#8220;can they possibly have fooled us?&#8221;, anticipating our deviousness and thirst for spoilers and planting mocked-up set photos etc. I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m not atypical of fans in having first thought &#8220;oh obv it won&#8217;t happen&#8221; and then thinking &#8220;but hold on&#8230;.maybe&#8230;just maybe&#8230;.&#8221; and letting that 5% of doubt creep in.</p>
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		<title>By: aldo</title>
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		<dc:creator>aldo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The handwashing one is great, as is Gunfighters episode 1 (Steven and Dodo sing and play the piano) and The Crusade Episode 3 ("You're going to die, but not for a very long time").

Actually, one of the most understated and best Toms might be Seeds Of Doom episode 3, with SJS strapped to the chair, bare arm showing, as the krynoid barely starts to emerge from the pod.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The handwashing one is great, as is Gunfighters episode 1 (Steven and Dodo sing and play the piano) and The Crusade Episode 3 (&#8221;You&#8217;re going to die, but not for a very long time&#8221;).</p>
<p>Actually, one of the most understated and best Toms might be Seeds Of Doom episode 3, with SJS strapped to the chair, bare arm showing, as the krynoid barely starts to emerge from the pod.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveM</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why I HAET last Saturday's cliffhanger:

we know DT sticks around so it felt like a particularly contrived obstacle that ultimately won't mean anything (other than a means of him being able to get with Rose, BUT WHO WANTS THAT?) rather than genuinely exciting like The Master turning from Jacobi to Simm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why I HAET last Saturday&#8217;s cliffhanger:</p>
<p>we know DT sticks around so it felt like a particularly contrived obstacle that ultimately won&#8217;t mean anything (other than a means of him being able to get with Rose, BUT WHO WANTS THAT?) rather than genuinely exciting like The Master turning from Jacobi to Simm.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Smart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy Smart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Hartnell years also gave us what may be the oddest cliffhanger ever at the end of 'Planet Of The Giants' episode 2: A man washes his hands! - The implications of that are frightening in context, honestly...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Hartnell years also gave us what may be the oddest cliffhanger ever at the end of &#8216;Planet Of The Giants&#8217; episode 2: A man washes his hands! - The implications of that are frightening in context, honestly&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Godfrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Godfrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whe I first heard the "They survived through Me" bit I immediately thought Woo! The Master! (The voice was all wrong for Davros.)

I thought they showed the Emperor Dalek in the trailer though, scotching that idea completely...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whe I first heard the &#8220;They survived through Me&#8221; bit I immediately thought Woo! The Master! (The voice was all wrong for Davros.)</p>
<p>I thought they showed the Emperor Dalek in the trailer though, scotching that idea completely&#8230;</p>
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