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	<description>Lollards in the high church of low culture</description>
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		<title>By: enitharmon</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/05/pussycat-mississippi/#comment-1060006</link>
		<dc:creator>enitharmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 10:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh well, I put in my two penn&#039;orth on his comment thread.

I thought Saint Étienne was the down-at-heel sister city of Lyon but what would I know!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh well, I put in my two penn&#8217;orth on his comment thread.</p>
<p>I thought Saint Étienne was the down-at-heel sister city of Lyon but what would I know!</p>
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		<title>By: enitharmon</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/05/pussycat-mississippi/#comment-1059997</link>
		<dc:creator>enitharmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 10:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is AP really as ugly as his Guardian mugshot suggests he is?  To me at least.  I&#039;ve often wondered,</description>
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		<title>By: Jimmy the Swede</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/05/pussycat-mississippi/#comment-1059795</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy the Swede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 15:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I don&#039;t read The Gruniad, I&#039;ve not heard of this AP fellow but unlike Punctum, I&#039;m not put out at all by the inference that we are all fucking tragic, smug, chart-obsessed, pen-mightier-than-the-sword fruit-loops with psychological issues, some going back to school days. Er...

Great to see that someone thinks our Lineman is hot!

I&#039;m not sure that The Digger has ever lurked about on FT (and particularly Popular) but there&#039;s not a doubt in my mind that Rebekah Brooks has and does. Ditto Louise Mensch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I don&#8217;t read The Gruniad, I&#8217;ve not heard of this AP fellow but unlike Punctum, I&#8217;m not put out at all by the inference that we are all fucking tragic, smug, chart-obsessed, pen-mightier-than-the-sword fruit-loops with psychological issues, some going back to school days. Er&#8230;</p>
<p>Great to see that someone thinks our Lineman is hot!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure that The Digger has ever lurked about on FT (and particularly Popular) but there&#8217;s not a doubt in my mind that Rebekah Brooks has and does. Ditto Louise Mensch!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark G</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/05/pussycat-mississippi/#comment-1059780</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 14:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>esPEShially Rupert Murdoch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>esPEShially Rupert Murdoch!</p>
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		<title>By: punctum</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/05/pussycat-mississippi/#comment-1059779</link>
		<dc:creator>punctum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 14:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone on the internet??? Even Rupert Murdoch?</description>
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		<title>By: pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/05/pussycat-mississippi/#comment-1059778</link>
		<dc:creator>pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 13:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone on the internet reads Freaky Trigger all the time</description>
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		<title>By: thefatgit</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/05/pussycat-mississippi/#comment-1059777</link>
		<dc:creator>thefatgit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 13:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we assume AP is a lurker then?</description>
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		<title>By: punctum</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/05/pussycat-mississippi/#comment-1059772</link>
		<dc:creator>punctum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 13:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m kind of put out by AP’s latest excuse to have a jibe in this direction; I’ve not heard the St Et song yet but would suspect it amounts to something more than saying that Popular is only a sanctuary for hopeless chart geeks. I certainly don’t see myself as such (as opposed to the certifiable fuck-up I was back in 2008) and chart geekdom is not what TPL or my Popular comments are about (it’s amazing, the number of people who still think that Then Play Long is a blog about UK number one albums, as opposed to a blog &lt;i&gt;about&lt;/i&gt; somebody writing a blog about UK number one albums, but there you go…)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m kind of put out by AP’s latest excuse to have a jibe in this direction; I’ve not heard the St Et song yet but would suspect it amounts to something more than saying that Popular is only a sanctuary for hopeless chart geeks. I certainly don’t see myself as such (as opposed to the certifiable fuck-up I was back in 2008) and chart geekdom is not what TPL or my Popular comments are about (it’s amazing, the number of people who still think that Then Play Long is a blog about UK number one albums, as opposed to a blog <i>about</i> somebody writing a blog about UK number one albums, but there you go…)</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/05/pussycat-mississippi/#comment-1059752</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 11:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Discussion re-opened.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/may/10/saint-etienne-words-music-review&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Guardian review of Saint Etienne &quot;Words and Music&quot;&lt;/a&gt; – &quot;that episode of The IT Crowd where Moss joins a society of exceptional Countdown contestants&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Discussion re-opened.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/may/10/saint-etienne-words-music-review" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/may/10/saint-etienne-words-music-review?referer=');">Guardian review of Saint Etienne &#8220;Words and Music&#8221;</a> – &#8220;that episode of The IT Crowd where Moss joins a society of exceptional Countdown contestants&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/05/pussycat-mississippi/#comment-424475</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 19:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should I toss a coin to see who gets the last word before I lock the thread?</description>
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		<title>By: Doctor Mod</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/05/pussycat-mississippi/#comment-424467</link>
		<dc:creator>Doctor Mod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 19:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pleas·ure  
n.
1. The state or feeling of being pleased or gratified.
2. A source of enjoyment or delight: The graceful skaters were a pleasure to watch.
3. Amusement, diversion, or worldly enjoyment: &quot;Pleasure . . . is a safer guide than either right or duty&quot; Samuel Butler.
4. Sensual gratification or indulgence.
5. One&#039;s preference or wish: What is your pleasure?

v. pleas·ured, pleas·ur·ing, pleas·ures
v.tr.
To give pleasure or enjoyment to; gratify: Our host pleasured us with his company.

v.intr.
1. To take pleasure; delight: The hiker paused, pleasuring in the sounds of the forest.
2. To go in search of pleasure or enjoyment.

[Middle English, from Old French plaisir, from plaisir, to please; see please.]

pleasure·less adj.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2003. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
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(Used respectively as a noun [indirect object] and a transitive verb in an infinitive phrase in #105.)

Sorry if this pleasures you; that was not my intent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pleas·ure<br />
n.<br />
1. The state or feeling of being pleased or gratified.<br />
2. A source of enjoyment or delight: The graceful skaters were a pleasure to watch.<br />
3. Amusement, diversion, or worldly enjoyment: &#8220;Pleasure . . . is a safer guide than either right or duty&#8221; Samuel Butler.<br />
4. Sensual gratification or indulgence.<br />
5. One&#8217;s preference or wish: What is your pleasure?</p>
<p>v. pleas·ured, pleas·ur·ing, pleas·ures<br />
v.tr.<br />
To give pleasure or enjoyment to; gratify: Our host pleasured us with his company.</p>
<p>v.intr.<br />
1. To take pleasure; delight: The hiker paused, pleasuring in the sounds of the forest.<br />
2. To go in search of pleasure or enjoyment.</p>
<p>[Middle English, from Old French plaisir, from plaisir, to please; see please.]</p>
<p>pleasure·less adj.</p>
<p>The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2003. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.<br />
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<p>(Used respectively as a noun [indirect object] and a transitive verb in an infinitive phrase in #105.)</p>
<p>Sorry if this pleasures you; that was not my intent.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Punctum</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/05/pussycat-mississippi/#comment-424233</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ Punctum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 09:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure I&#039;d want to hire a teacher who can&#039;t tell the difference between a noun and a transitive verb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d want to hire a teacher who can&#8217;t tell the difference between a noun and a transitive verb.</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Mod</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/05/pussycat-mississippi/#comment-423779</link>
		<dc:creator>Doctor Mod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 19:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last night I remembered something a psychologist told me years ago--the best way to deal with attention wh*res and bullies is to ignore them completely.  That&#039;s the one thing they can&#039;t bear because they love to pick fights.  It makes them the center of everything and thus gives them pleasure.  

I&#039;m very selective about those I&#039;m willing to pleasure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night I remembered something a psychologist told me years ago&#8211;the best way to deal with attention wh*res and bullies is to ignore them completely.  That&#8217;s the one thing they can&#8217;t bear because they love to pick fights.  It makes them the center of everything and thus gives them pleasure.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m very selective about those I&#8217;m willing to pleasure.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Punctum</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/05/pussycat-mississippi/#comment-423657</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ Punctum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 15:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s showbusiness!</description>
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		<title>By: Matt DC</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/05/pussycat-mississippi/#comment-423656</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 15:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Feeling what?</description>
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		<title>By: DJ Punctum</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/05/pussycat-mississippi/#comment-423579</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ Punctum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 12:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as you don&#039;t mind wall to wall Royworld, Feeling and Julian Velard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as you don&#8217;t mind wall to wall Royworld, Feeling and Julian Velard.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat but logged out innit</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/05/pussycat-mississippi/#comment-423578</link>
		<dc:creator>Kat but logged out innit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 12:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That nice man who used to do Channel 4 breakfast news? I&#039;d consent to him any day etc etc</description>
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		<title>By: DJ Punctum</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/05/pussycat-mississippi/#comment-423575</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ Punctum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 12:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Foghat consensuality&quot;

That&#039;ll be the Dermot O&#039;Leary Show, then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Foghat consensuality&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;ll be the Dermot O&#8217;Leary Show, then.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/05/pussycat-mississippi/#comment-423569</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 11:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m delighted to announce that we&#039;re introducing a new Wordpress plug-in. The word &quot;gliberal&quot;, when it appears in future, will be replaced by a more amusing alternative of precisely equal meaning-value. &quot;Sausage&quot;, maybe. Or &quot;Foghat&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m delighted to announce that we&#8217;re introducing a new WordPress plug-in. The word &#8220;gliberal&#8221;, when it appears in future, will be replaced by a more amusing alternative of precisely equal meaning-value. &#8220;Sausage&#8221;, maybe. Or &#8220;Foghat&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: rosie</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/05/pussycat-mississippi/#comment-423565</link>
		<dc:creator>rosie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 11:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Marcello, Wha&#039;evah!

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Marcello, Wha&#8217;evah!</p>
<p>;)</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Punctum</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/05/pussycat-mississippi/#comment-423546</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ Punctum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 11:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did Tom Peters write #91?  It&#039;s so full of lazy mediocre kneejerk cliches that he could use it as one of his um inspirational business tools.

I believe it was Foucault who said something about universities being the means by which societies reproduce themselves as painlessly as possible and hence it is unsurprising that &quot;Doctor&quot; Mod should wish to utilise semi-naked psychic terrorism against those who recognise the &lt;i&gt;de facto&lt;/i&gt; bogus ideology behind gliberal teaching (i.e. that in an environment dependent upon economic rationalism a tutor, to preserve or renew their tenure, can only hope to impose subtle subservience in the pretence of inspiring and encouraging subjectivity in their pupils), to deploy every subtle weapon in the book that established power uses to protect itself against the threat of reason.

Thus also does my stance, as with that of any rational romanticist, count as anti-authoritarian because it argues that real revelation and transcendence cannot be taught, that it will arise from individual combinations of confluence, coincidence and guidance (NOT industry-sanctioned &quot;guidance&quot;) since doing otherwise is by definition submitting to authority with all its inbuilt neuronic prejudices.

The notion that I am not qualified to comment on the plethora of lazy memes raised by supposed teachers because I am not myself a teacher is ridiculous, if predictable, since:

a) it implies antiquated professional self-protection (see also the virulently tedious morons at the &lt;i&gt;Guardian&lt;/i&gt; and elsewhere who have the temerity to attack me and other bloggers for not being &quot;trained, professional journalists&quot; but feel free to steal ideas and on occasion whole paragraphs from us whenever they want an easy life, which is most of the time);

b) it is yet another attempted authoritarian hammer aimed at my knees, viz. YOU ARE A LESSER SPECIES, KNOW YOUR PLACE AND STAY THERE PEASANT.

Which, funnily enough, is exactly how such OCAs describe what I do with my writing since it absolves them from the responsibility of dealing with it.  Whereas the likes of &quot;Doctor&quot; Mod are only too quick to whip out their CVs to excuse their total ignorance of 1972 Britain, for example and whinge &quot;daddy daddy he thouted at me&quot; when challenged.

There is nothing special about my beliefs and stances.  I subject them to constant and thorough questioning but when challenged will stand by them as I see fit.  Mark and Frank, for instance, being genuinely wise people who do not need to wave around their bibliographies on this board, do engender in me feelings of &quot;Hmm - perhaps they have a point.&quot;

I am perfectly willing to explain and justify my position to those ears prepared to hear me.

I am perfectly unwilling to be hit over the head with the paper mallet of gliberal consensuality as a substitute for debate.

Of course, we must also acknowledge the paradox of those who want an &quot;easy life,&quot; a nice, fluffy consensus where Annie Lennox is a beltin&#039; right-on woman of character and substance rather than merely the Craig Douglas to Grace Jones&#039; Sam Cooke, actually being ground down more rapidly by the physical exhaustion of maintaining their illusion (cf. Spinoza).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did Tom Peters write #91?  It&#8217;s so full of lazy mediocre kneejerk cliches that he could use it as one of his um inspirational business tools.</p>
<p>I believe it was Foucault who said something about universities being the means by which societies reproduce themselves as painlessly as possible and hence it is unsurprising that &#8220;Doctor&#8221; Mod should wish to utilise semi-naked psychic terrorism against those who recognise the <i>de facto</i> bogus ideology behind gliberal teaching (i.e. that in an environment dependent upon economic rationalism a tutor, to preserve or renew their tenure, can only hope to impose subtle subservience in the pretence of inspiring and encouraging subjectivity in their pupils), to deploy every subtle weapon in the book that established power uses to protect itself against the threat of reason.</p>
<p>Thus also does my stance, as with that of any rational romanticist, count as anti-authoritarian because it argues that real revelation and transcendence cannot be taught, that it will arise from individual combinations of confluence, coincidence and guidance (NOT industry-sanctioned &#8220;guidance&#8221;) since doing otherwise is by definition submitting to authority with all its inbuilt neuronic prejudices.</p>
<p>The notion that I am not qualified to comment on the plethora of lazy memes raised by supposed teachers because I am not myself a teacher is ridiculous, if predictable, since:</p>
<p>a) it implies antiquated professional self-protection (see also the virulently tedious morons at the <i>Guardian</i> and elsewhere who have the temerity to attack me and other bloggers for not being &#8220;trained, professional journalists&#8221; but feel free to steal ideas and on occasion whole paragraphs from us whenever they want an easy life, which is most of the time);</p>
<p>b) it is yet another attempted authoritarian hammer aimed at my knees, viz. YOU ARE A LESSER SPECIES, KNOW YOUR PLACE AND STAY THERE PEASANT.</p>
<p>Which, funnily enough, is exactly how such OCAs describe what I do with my writing since it absolves them from the responsibility of dealing with it.  Whereas the likes of &#8220;Doctor&#8221; Mod are only too quick to whip out their CVs to excuse their total ignorance of 1972 Britain, for example and whinge &#8220;daddy daddy he thouted at me&#8221; when challenged.</p>
<p>There is nothing special about my beliefs and stances.  I subject them to constant and thorough questioning but when challenged will stand by them as I see fit.  Mark and Frank, for instance, being genuinely wise people who do not need to wave around their bibliographies on this board, do engender in me feelings of &#8220;Hmm &#8211; perhaps they have a point.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am perfectly willing to explain and justify my position to those ears prepared to hear me.</p>
<p>I am perfectly unwilling to be hit over the head with the paper mallet of gliberal consensuality as a substitute for debate.</p>
<p>Of course, we must also acknowledge the paradox of those who want an &#8220;easy life,&#8221; a nice, fluffy consensus where Annie Lennox is a beltin&#8217; right-on woman of character and substance rather than merely the Craig Douglas to Grace Jones&#8217; Sam Cooke, actually being ground down more rapidly by the physical exhaustion of maintaining their illusion (cf. Spinoza).</p>
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		<title>By: pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</title>
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		<dc:creator>pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 09:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha well i rather approved of what HB was sayin abt jazz: viz that his own term &quot;agon&quot; maps onto the ethos of &quot;cutting&quot; in jazz -- that jazz and poetry are competitive in a way that not all artforms are -- also whitman and armstrong, all america comes from these two (obv these claims are both hugely contestable but i kinda like their sweepng simplicity)

however i couldn&#039;t find the thing about rock that i remembered in that book, which really is an interpretation of newt gingrich as a distroted rage for angels, and now wonder if i wasn&#039;t pointed to a passage elsewhere by a friend when i confessed i was reading this one -- in which HB does make a sideswipe claim about rock as religion and the gnostic moment of 1969, and a joke about his students watching the jefferson airplane while high (in context more affectionate than condescending, which is nice)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha well i rather approved of what HB was sayin abt jazz: viz that his own term &#8220;agon&#8221; maps onto the ethos of &#8220;cutting&#8221; in jazz &#8212; that jazz and poetry are competitive in a way that not all artforms are &#8212; also whitman and armstrong, all america comes from these two (obv these claims are both hugely contestable but i kinda like their sweepng simplicity)</p>
<p>however i couldn&#8217;t find the thing about rock that i remembered in that book, which really is an interpretation of newt gingrich as a distroted rage for angels, and now wonder if i wasn&#8217;t pointed to a passage elsewhere by a friend when i confessed i was reading this one &#8212; in which HB does make a sideswipe claim about rock as religion and the gnostic moment of 1969, and a joke about his students watching the jefferson airplane while high (in context more affectionate than condescending, which is nice)</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Mod</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 23:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an interesting thought, Rosie.

Back when I lived in New Haven, I once saw Harold Bloom in the produce department of a grocery store, fondling the veggies.  An unforgettable sight, but not a necessarily pretty one.  

Aside from that one incident, I&#039;ve never actually met the man, but I&#039;m sure that he and I would not completely agree on what constitutes a &quot;significant&quot; work.  Nevertheless, I&#039;ve used his work to support certain arguments I&#039;ve posited.

I never met Lester Bangs either, and while I think there would be considerable overlap between what he and I regard as &quot;significant,&quot; I doubt the agreement would be absolute.  Nevertheless, I&#039;ve used his work to support certain arguments I&#039;ve posited.

My point?  Knowledge and even insight come from diverse and often seemingly opposing sources, so long as one&#039;s open to it.

Just between you and me, Rosie, I very rarely start a class by giving a protracted &quot;I-am-the-authority-and-this-is-what&#039;s-what,&quot; lest I see half a dozen people fall asleep in the first five minutes.  My usual approach is to walk in, get there attention and say, &quot;Well, now that you&#039;ve read this/seen this/heard this, what do you think?  Your responses, please!&quot;  This gets them engaged from the beginning, and I can fill in the &quot;what&#039;s what&quot; at various junctures.  My experience is that they remember better when they&#039;re part of the conversation that they do when they listen to someone droning on and on  with too much information for them to absorb in one fell swoop.  Those who do the latter--alas!  All and all they&#039;re just another brick in the wall.

Mark, I dare say his books have grown progressively more, um, esoteric over time.  I&#039;ve always wondered what it feels like to be so authoritative that one can decree as if by fiat the abolition of those troubling things called footnotes.  (I rather like them myself, but what do I know?)

Strange thing about jazz, though, in US academia.  For all it&#039;s egalitarian origins it somehow became the province of the old guard academic elitists, most of whom are more than mildly disdainful of jazz&#039;s &quot;illegitimate&quot; offspring (i.e., rock and pop).  Not saying that&#039;s necessarily true of HB, but there&#039;s still a lot of that around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an interesting thought, Rosie.</p>
<p>Back when I lived in New Haven, I once saw Harold Bloom in the produce department of a grocery store, fondling the veggies.  An unforgettable sight, but not a necessarily pretty one.  </p>
<p>Aside from that one incident, I&#8217;ve never actually met the man, but I&#8217;m sure that he and I would not completely agree on what constitutes a &#8220;significant&#8221; work.  Nevertheless, I&#8217;ve used his work to support certain arguments I&#8217;ve posited.</p>
<p>I never met Lester Bangs either, and while I think there would be considerable overlap between what he and I regard as &#8220;significant,&#8221; I doubt the agreement would be absolute.  Nevertheless, I&#8217;ve used his work to support certain arguments I&#8217;ve posited.</p>
<p>My point?  Knowledge and even insight come from diverse and often seemingly opposing sources, so long as one&#8217;s open to it.</p>
<p>Just between you and me, Rosie, I very rarely start a class by giving a protracted &#8220;I-am-the-authority-and-this-is-what&#8217;s-what,&#8221; lest I see half a dozen people fall asleep in the first five minutes.  My usual approach is to walk in, get there attention and say, &#8220;Well, now that you&#8217;ve read this/seen this/heard this, what do you think?  Your responses, please!&#8221;  This gets them engaged from the beginning, and I can fill in the &#8220;what&#8217;s what&#8221; at various junctures.  My experience is that they remember better when they&#8217;re part of the conversation that they do when they listen to someone droning on and on  with too much information for them to absorb in one fell swoop.  Those who do the latter&#8211;alas!  All and all they&#8217;re just another brick in the wall.</p>
<p>Mark, I dare say his books have grown progressively more, um, esoteric over time.  I&#8217;ve always wondered what it feels like to be so authoritative that one can decree as if by fiat the abolition of those troubling things called footnotes.  (I rather like them myself, but what do I know?)</p>
<p>Strange thing about jazz, though, in US academia.  For all it&#8217;s egalitarian origins it somehow became the province of the old guard academic elitists, most of whom are more than mildly disdainful of jazz&#8217;s &#8220;illegitimate&#8221; offspring (i.e., rock and pop).  Not saying that&#8217;s necessarily true of HB, but there&#8217;s still a lot of that around.</p>
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		<title>By: a logged out p^nk s lord sukråt wötsit</title>
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		<dc:creator>a logged out p^nk s lord sukråt wötsit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 22:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think it&#039;s somewhere in his (rather strange) book on angels and the millennium, and just now i couldn&#039;t turn it up, but h.bloom has written about the band, who he is (or was) a fan of 

(on the net he seems to be more of a jazzman)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think it&#8217;s somewhere in his (rather strange) book on angels and the millennium, and just now i couldn&#8217;t turn it up, but h.bloom has written about the band, who he is (or was) a fan of </p>
<p>(on the net he seems to be more of a jazzman)</p>
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		<title>By: rosie</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 20:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was trying to think of something to write about Harold Bloom v Lester Bangs as genial genies of guidance, but it would take me all week to write it all out.  Let&#039;s just say that I, and I think Doctor Mod, would favour putting forward the prospectuses of Harold Bloom and Lester Bangs along with those of many others and invite the students to critique them and make up their own minds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was trying to think of something to write about Harold Bloom v Lester Bangs as genial genies of guidance, but it would take me all week to write it all out.  Let&#8217;s just say that I, and I think Doctor Mod, would favour putting forward the prospectuses of Harold Bloom and Lester Bangs along with those of many others and invite the students to critique them and make up their own minds.</p>
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