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		<title>By: lockedintheattic</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/05/europop-2008-group-c-finale/#comment-431694</link>
		<dc:creator>lockedintheattic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 13:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bah. I knew my track was a risky choice but looks like it wouldn&#039;t have mattered anyway after that great French track. Still, can&#039;t be too disappointed, after my first bit of research I was convinced I was screwed, getting three draws against teams with this kind of heritage is not too bad at all I reckon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bah. I knew my track was a risky choice but looks like it wouldn&#8217;t have mattered anyway after that great French track. Still, can&#8217;t be too disappointed, after my first bit of research I was convinced I was screwed, getting three draws against teams with this kind of heritage is not too bad at all I reckon</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Mod</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/05/europop-2008-group-c-finale/#comment-430985</link>
		<dc:creator>Doctor Mod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 16:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brava Italia, vive la France!

I think Holland needs a younger manager next time . . . .</description>
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<p>I think Holland needs a younger manager next time . . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Alyson Tamara Guard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alyson Tamara Guard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 16:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I wasn&#039;t expecting that, I thought I&#039;d be knocked out - that&#039;s a great win for France! Revenge for Germany 06! I won&#039;t get hit with baguettes now! Need to be on our toes, the 1/4 finals loom large. Need to get some training sessions in...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I wasn&#8217;t expecting that, I thought I&#8217;d be knocked out &#8211; that&#8217;s a great win for France! Revenge for Germany 06! I won&#8217;t get hit with baguettes now! Need to be on our toes, the 1/4 finals loom large. Need to get some training sessions in&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt DC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 15:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>zidane_headbutt.gif :(

Thank god the other game was a draw, I&#039;ll certainly be putting the side through their paces ahead of the next round.</description>
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<p>Thank god the other game was a draw, I&#8217;ll certainly be putting the side through their paces ahead of the next round.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/05/europop-2008-group-c-finale/#comment-430939</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 14:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A defeat for Italy that would have been a pummelling if the polls had closed last night. And I have to say I didn&#039;t think Holland stood a lot of chance in their game, but as it stands they came close to pulling off a win.

Congratulations to France, who top the group, and Italy, who also progress. Commiserations to Holland and Romania who ensured the finish was a lot tighter than many predicted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A defeat for Italy that would have been a pummelling if the polls had closed last night. And I have to say I didn&#8217;t think Holland stood a lot of chance in their game, but as it stands they came close to pulling off a win.</p>
<p>Congratulations to France, who top the group, and Italy, who also progress. Commiserations to Holland and Romania who ensured the finish was a lot tighter than many predicted.</p>
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		<title>By: lex</title>
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		<dc:creator>lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 13:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh why did FRA and ITA have to play each other? These are probably the two best songs of the entire tournament so far (excluding my own selections, of course), voting against either would be really hard considering some of the rubbish I&#039;ve had to vote for. Plumped for monster ITA house in the end but there&#039;s nothing wrong with FRA&#039;s Paradis-a-like at all. Both managers deserve to go through, I think they&#039;ve been two of the most reliably excellent.

ROU - more comedy wacky bullshit, aagh. Stupid &quot;to the left, to the right&quot; voices actually unlistenable. OK-ish Eurodance backing not enough to salvage it. NED - not great but not that bad either, competent Dandy Warhols tribute act (I liked...two Dandy Warhols songs, I think). NED, reluctantly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh why did FRA and ITA have to play each other? These are probably the two best songs of the entire tournament so far (excluding my own selections, of course), voting against either would be really hard considering some of the rubbish I&#8217;ve had to vote for. Plumped for monster ITA house in the end but there&#8217;s nothing wrong with FRA&#8217;s Paradis-a-like at all. Both managers deserve to go through, I think they&#8217;ve been two of the most reliably excellent.</p>
<p>ROU &#8211; more comedy wacky bullshit, aagh. Stupid &#8220;to the left, to the right&#8221; voices actually unlistenable. OK-ish Eurodance backing not enough to salvage it. NED &#8211; not great but not that bad either, competent Dandy Warhols tribute act (I liked&#8230;two Dandy Warhols songs, I think). NED, reluctantly.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 08:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These polls end tomorrow, so get yer comments and votes in please!</description>
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		<title>By: jel</title>
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		<dc:creator>jel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 16:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought &quot;oh-noes, &#039;tis the French Mum&quot; but then it got much better. I like it! Italy = boring dance music, it&#039;s not 1988 anymore.

Holland are okay, kinda like the jaded songs former members who weren&#039;t the main  ones of bands like Pavement would make. It&#039;s like they are having a kick-about. I accidentally voted for Romania. I&#039;m not sure if I should have, they are shouting &quot;booyakashah&quot; for a start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought &#8220;oh-noes, &#8217;tis the French Mum&#8221; but then it got much better. I like it! Italy = boring dance music, it&#8217;s not 1988 anymore.</p>
<p>Holland are okay, kinda like the jaded songs former members who weren&#8217;t the main  ones of bands like Pavement would make. It&#8217;s like they are having a kick-about. I accidentally voted for Romania. I&#8217;m not sure if I should have, they are shouting &#8220;booyakashah&#8221; for a start.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/05/europop-2008-group-c-finale/#comment-426399</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 13:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(The expert analyst was a little bit pressed for time this round, I will admit)</description>
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		<title>By: Matt DC</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/05/europop-2008-group-c-finale/#comment-426396</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 13:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Romania - clearly the manager has told them that, win or lose, they should just go out there and enjoy it and by hell they&#039;re entertaining to watch. This side go through their full catalogue of flicks, stepovers, bicycle kicks and all manner of showboating. Sometimes they pull it off, but they&#039;re as likely to bump into one another or fall flat on their arse as get it into the back of the next. But, like the golden age of Kevin Keegan&#039;s Newcastle, tremendous fun nonetheless, if somewhat cackhanded.

Holland - gritty reducers MY ARSE, these are skinny indie boys if ever I saw them. The song itself isn&#039;t bad at all but their treatment of it is a bit tentative and weedy. This feels like it should by rights be a Waiting For The Man type chugger, but they&#039;re seemingly content to waste time by the Elliott Smith corner flag instead of going for goal. But they made a small picture of a gnome come up on my ipod, and I liked that. Obviously having a vested interest in this I&#039;m holding out for a draw, but leaning towards Romania.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Romania &#8211; clearly the manager has told them that, win or lose, they should just go out there and enjoy it and by hell they&#8217;re entertaining to watch. This side go through their full catalogue of flicks, stepovers, bicycle kicks and all manner of showboating. Sometimes they pull it off, but they&#8217;re as likely to bump into one another or fall flat on their arse as get it into the back of the next. But, like the golden age of Kevin Keegan&#8217;s Newcastle, tremendous fun nonetheless, if somewhat cackhanded.</p>
<p>Holland &#8211; gritty reducers MY ARSE, these are skinny indie boys if ever I saw them. The song itself isn&#8217;t bad at all but their treatment of it is a bit tentative and weedy. This feels like it should by rights be a Waiting For The Man type chugger, but they&#8217;re seemingly content to waste time by the Elliott Smith corner flag instead of going for goal. But they made a small picture of a gnome come up on my ipod, and I liked that. Obviously having a vested interest in this I&#8217;m holding out for a draw, but leaning towards Romania.</p>
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		<title>By: koganbot</title>
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		<dc:creator>koganbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 19:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m looking forward to Lex&#039;s commentary on Holland vs. Rumania.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to Lex&#8217;s commentary on Holland vs. Rumania.</p>
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		<title>By: koganbot</title>
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		<dc:creator>koganbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 19:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>France: A whispery, giggling French babe who makes Paris Hilton seem like a full-throated thrush in comparison. Secret ingredient is the tunefully somber chording that undergirds all this alleged fun; result is a whispery wet dream that straddles dramatic darkness. &lt;i&gt;Really&lt;/i&gt; tacky, but good.

Italy: Buoyant house w/ bouncing piano worthy of Marshall Jefferson and sampled vocal passion that actually delivers emotion. Probably could use more of a song in front, though I know that&#039;s not the point. Likable entry, but it loses my vote to the French mindfuck. Good contest.

Holland: Indie pop that may get something positive from its restraint, which serves to highlight the harmonic blips of beauty. I&#039;d prefer a stronger singer, but I don&#039;t have my usual urge to shoot such a guy. Might want to slap him, however.

Rumania: Now this one squirts on cutesypop like frosting, but deep beats nail it down. The hammy vocals are a problem, in that fun is being represented here without actually being created. So the question is whether the emotion of the underlying rhythm and song is enough to carry this. This could grow on me once I adapt to the sinigng, but I&#039;m leaning towards Holland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>France: A whispery, giggling French babe who makes Paris Hilton seem like a full-throated thrush in comparison. Secret ingredient is the tunefully somber chording that undergirds all this alleged fun; result is a whispery wet dream that straddles dramatic darkness. <i>Really</i> tacky, but good.</p>
<p>Italy: Buoyant house w/ bouncing piano worthy of Marshall Jefferson and sampled vocal passion that actually delivers emotion. Probably could use more of a song in front, though I know that&#8217;s not the point. Likable entry, but it loses my vote to the French mindfuck. Good contest.</p>
<p>Holland: Indie pop that may get something positive from its restraint, which serves to highlight the harmonic blips of beauty. I&#8217;d prefer a stronger singer, but I don&#8217;t have my usual urge to shoot such a guy. Might want to slap him, however.</p>
<p>Rumania: Now this one squirts on cutesypop like frosting, but deep beats nail it down. The hammy vocals are a problem, in that fun is being represented here without actually being created. So the question is whether the emotion of the underlying rhythm and song is enough to carry this. This could grow on me once I adapt to the sinigng, but I&#8217;m leaning towards Holland.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveM</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 16:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A superb goal in the first minute for Italy! But France regroup well and actually pull one back just a few minutes later from a corner. Great start. Very nice to hear &#039;Everybody&#039; as I kinda missed it at the time (it fell just short of the top 40 iirc) and despite it&#039;s age no objection to it&#039;s appearance from me this time as I often find myself hankering for dance music that sounds like this.

I do like the French track a lot too tho, except for...the voice! Unfortunately the whispery accent irritates rather than allures.

Now the Dutch aren&#039;t too bad either at least not if you like Phoenix, Das Pop and the like. Unfortunately for them the raucous Romanians are showing them ZERO respect and throwing their maverick wingers forward - seas of yellow and orange clash in the stands but i sense the latter may be outnumbered too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A superb goal in the first minute for Italy! But France regroup well and actually pull one back just a few minutes later from a corner. Great start. Very nice to hear &#8216;Everybody&#8217; as I kinda missed it at the time (it fell just short of the top 40 iirc) and despite it&#8217;s age no objection to it&#8217;s appearance from me this time as I often find myself hankering for dance music that sounds like this.</p>
<p>I do like the French track a lot too tho, except for&#8230;the voice! Unfortunately the whispery accent irritates rather than allures.</p>
<p>Now the Dutch aren&#8217;t too bad either at least not if you like Phoenix, Das Pop and the like. Unfortunately for them the raucous Romanians are showing them ZERO respect and throwing their maverick wingers forward &#8211; seas of yellow and orange clash in the stands but i sense the latter may be outnumbered too.</p>
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		<title>By: lockedintheattic</title>
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		<dc:creator>lockedintheattic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 14:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>..and what could be more appropriate for my final group game selection than a song with a football-themed video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxyOTV4iJHo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..and what could be more appropriate for my final group game selection than a song with a football-themed video?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxyOTV4iJHo" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxyOTV4iJHo&amp;referer=');">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxyOTV4iJHo</a></p>
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