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	<title>Comments on: FOUR SEASONS - &#8220;December 1963 (Oh What A Night)&#8221;</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: richard thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 08:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm a bit like Cliff Richard here, I didn't know this song was about a prostitute, this wasn't long after honky tonk angel which he sang on supersonic, I remember the chart cock up as well, no pun intended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a bit like Cliff Richard here, I didn&#8217;t know this song was about a prostitute, this wasn&#8217;t long after honky tonk angel which he sang on supersonic, I remember the chart cock up as well, no pun intended.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 15:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“doo doo dooop doo doo, Doo doop doo Oh what a night..”

also on Silver Star (I think) and four part harmonies on “Who Loves You”, etc..

Hmmm... I guess you're right as far as a "trace..."  But vocal harmonizing in itself isn't exclusive to doo-wop, is it?  Though the 4 seasons are definitely harmonizing in these numbers -- especially Who Loves You -- I just don't hear these songs as having any doo-wop flavor.  At least in an anachronistic or "nostalgic" sense.  Maybe it's nouveau-doo-wop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“doo doo dooop doo doo, Doo doop doo Oh what a night..”</p>
<p>also on Silver Star (I think) and four part harmonies on “Who Loves You”, etc..</p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230; I guess you&#8217;re right as far as a &#8220;trace&#8230;&#8221;  But vocal harmonizing in itself isn&#8217;t exclusive to doo-wop, is it?  Though the 4 seasons are definitely harmonizing in these numbers &#8212; especially Who Loves You &#8212; I just don&#8217;t hear these songs as having any doo-wop flavor.  At least in an anachronistic or &#8220;nostalgic&#8221; sense.  Maybe it&#8217;s nouveau-doo-wop.</p>
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		<title>By: and everybody elses Mark G</title>
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		<dc:creator>and everybody elses Mark G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 15:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"doo doo dooop doo doo, Doo doop doo Oh what a night.."

also on Silver Star (I think) and four part harmonies on "Who Loves You", etc..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;doo doo dooop doo doo, Doo doop doo Oh what a night..&#8221;</p>
<p>also on Silver Star (I think) and four part harmonies on &#8220;Who Loves You&#8221;, etc..</p>
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		<title>By: Dan M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 14:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I recall, this song seemed a little insipid to my 15 year old ears; 1963 was too long ago to be cool.  The whole Franki Valli comeback was strange to me, then.  I had only been following "Top 40" for a year or so.  The Four Seasons I knew only from UHF TV ads for a nostalgic greatest hits disc.  The music seemed ancient to me, and I was suspicious of the sudden re-emergence of FV&#38;4S, even though I kind of liked the songs: how could musicians from a by-gone era make legitimate hits of TODAY???  

I prefer Who Loves You and Swearin to God, but December '63 was and is acceptable hyper-catchy fluff.  

The song  contributed one of those minute, embarrassing moments that will remain with me, bobbing to the surface of consciousness every so often, until Alzheimer's.   My best friend (who I looked up to in many areas, including pop music), remarked while this song was on "nice bass."  December '63 was borderline too "white" for us, but close enough to early disco or soul-pop, I guess, to make the grade.  Now, I didn't have any bass-line-judging criteria (still don't, really), but it seemed like a very erudite type of  observation, and a few days later when the song came on the jukebox in the student lounge, I took the opportunity to repeat it to another kid (who I think was more a Jethro Tull type and would have disdained this number).  He challenged me: "what's so good about the bass?" I had no idea, of course.  I'm not even sure I had actually picked out the bass line with my ears.  I'm pretty sure I learned from that minor humiliation never to repeat someone else's opinion as though it were my own.  

But all this talk of doo-wop... is there a trace of the doo-wop style in any of The Four Seasons' 70s hits?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I recall, this song seemed a little insipid to my 15 year old ears; 1963 was too long ago to be cool.  The whole Franki Valli comeback was strange to me, then.  I had only been following &#8220;Top 40&#8243; for a year or so.  The Four Seasons I knew only from UHF TV ads for a nostalgic greatest hits disc.  The music seemed ancient to me, and I was suspicious of the sudden re-emergence of FV&amp;4S, even though I kind of liked the songs: how could musicians from a by-gone era make legitimate hits of TODAY???  </p>
<p>I prefer Who Loves You and Swearin to God, but December &#8216;63 was and is acceptable hyper-catchy fluff.  </p>
<p>The song  contributed one of those minute, embarrassing moments that will remain with me, bobbing to the surface of consciousness every so often, until Alzheimer&#8217;s.   My best friend (who I looked up to in many areas, including pop music), remarked while this song was on &#8220;nice bass.&#8221;  December &#8216;63 was borderline too &#8220;white&#8221; for us, but close enough to early disco or soul-pop, I guess, to make the grade.  Now, I didn&#8217;t have any bass-line-judging criteria (still don&#8217;t, really), but it seemed like a very erudite type of  observation, and a few days later when the song came on the jukebox in the student lounge, I took the opportunity to repeat it to another kid (who I think was more a Jethro Tull type and would have disdained this number).  He challenged me: &#8220;what&#8217;s so good about the bass?&#8221; I had no idea, of course.  I&#8217;m not even sure I had actually picked out the bass line with my ears.  I&#8217;m pretty sure I learned from that minor humiliation never to repeat someone else&#8217;s opinion as though it were my own.  </p>
<p>But all this talk of doo-wop&#8230; is there a trace of the doo-wop style in any of The Four Seasons&#8217; 70s hits?</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Punctum</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ Punctum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed - it was the chart w/e 27 November.  The album at number four - the week's highest selling non-compilation album and one of only six albums in that Top 20 which wasn't a compilation album or a live album - was &lt;i&gt;Songs In The Key Of Life&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed - it was the chart w/e 27 November.  The album at number four - the week&#8217;s highest selling non-compilation album and one of only six albums in that Top 20 which wasn&#8217;t a compilation album or a live album - was <i>Songs In The Key Of Life</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Erithian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erithian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there was an album chart in late 1976 where the top three was: 
20 Golden Greats - Glen Campbell; 
22 Golden Guitar Greats - Bert Weedon; 
100 Golden Greats - Max Bygraves.  
Weedon had replaced Led Zeppelin's "The Song Remains The Same" at number one.  Record Mirror interviewed a variety of current stars about Bert Weedon being number one; Jimmy Page reportedly "just smiled" and John Bonham said "I learned to play guitar from Bert's Play In A Day book - that's why I'm the drummer."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there was an album chart in late 1976 where the top three was:<br />
20 Golden Greats - Glen Campbell;<br />
22 Golden Guitar Greats - Bert Weedon;<br />
100 Golden Greats - Max Bygraves.<br />
Weedon had replaced Led Zeppelin&#8217;s &#8220;The Song Remains The Same&#8221; at number one.  Record Mirror interviewed a variety of current stars about Bert Weedon being number one; Jimmy Page reportedly &#8220;just smiled&#8221; and John Bonham said &#8220;I learned to play guitar from Bert&#8217;s Play In A Day book - that&#8217;s why I&#8217;m the drummer.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: intothefireuk</title>
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		<dc:creator>intothefireuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well you can partially blame me for Manuel's success as I actually went out and bought it for my Mum (my idea of a gift) - she probably still has it ! I didn't actually mind it that much either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well you can partially blame me for Manuel&#8217;s success as I actually went out and bought it for my Mum (my idea of a gift) - she probably still has it ! I didn&#8217;t actually mind it that much either.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a bunch of the Geoff Love LPs - certainly Western, Love, Sci-Fi themes - courtesy of the 10p basement. I think Western was the only one I actually sat all through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a bunch of the Geoff Love LPs - certainly Western, Love, Sci-Fi themes - courtesy of the 10p basement. I think Western was the only one I actually sat all through.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff w</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My parents had Big Western Movie Themes (c.1970) and later acquired Big Bond Movie Themes, possibly for me actually though I can't recall for sure now.

This LP, from Love's disco period, contains a couple of awesome cover versions:
http://www.discomusic.com/records-more/8507_0_2_0_C/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My parents had Big Western Movie Themes (c.1970) and later acquired Big Bond Movie Themes, possibly for me actually though I can&#8217;t recall for sure now.</p>
<p>This LP, from Love&#8217;s disco period, contains a couple of awesome cover versions:<br />
<a href="http://www.discomusic.com/records-more/8507_0_2_0_C/" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.discomusic.com/records-more/8507_0_2_0_C/?referer=');">http://www.discomusic.com/records-more/8507_0_2_0_C/</a></p>
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		<title>By: DJ Punctum</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ Punctum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nearly every one of my classmates had one or more of those Geoff Love Plays Great TV Themes/Great Movie Themes albums in the dark days when you couldn't get copyright clearance for the originals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nearly every one of my classmates had one or more of those Geoff Love Plays Great TV Themes/Great Movie Themes albums in the dark days when you couldn&#8217;t get copyright clearance for the originals.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mandingo was a couple of years earlier, DJP: I've got some promo 7"s of theirs (or rather his) from 1973 or thereabouts.  Pretty good stuff actually, and I enjoyed that whole &lt;i&gt;Sound Gallery&lt;/i&gt; revivalist phase from the back end of the 1990s.

I've also got a whole clutch of the Actual Real Life type-written Telexes which Radio One sent out, announcing the weekly charts, circa 1972-73 I think.  They've got Derek Chinnery's name at the top and everything!  (More James Hamilton residuals, y'see.)  I really ought to dig one out and scan it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mandingo was a couple of years earlier, DJP: I&#8217;ve got some promo 7&#8243;s of theirs (or rather his) from 1973 or thereabouts.  Pretty good stuff actually, and I enjoyed that whole <i>Sound Gallery</i> revivalist phase from the back end of the 1990s.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also got a whole clutch of the Actual Real Life type-written Telexes which Radio One sent out, announcing the weekly charts, circa 1972-73 I think.  They&#8217;ve got Derek Chinnery&#8217;s name at the top and everything!  (More James Hamilton residuals, y&#8217;see.)  I really ought to dig one out and scan it.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Punctum</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ Punctum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Revisiting Slik's "Requiem" over the weekend, I was tickled to be reminded that its intro is identical to that of "Rodrigo"!

Mr Love also recorded funky big band workouts under the pseudonym of "Mandingo" around the same time as well as being the musical director for Max Bygraves and his heartrending Singalonga series of albums, all of which cumulated in 1976 with the most ludicrous album title ever, &lt;i&gt;100 Golden Greats&lt;/i&gt; (on Ronco, no less).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Revisiting Slik&#8217;s &#8220;Requiem&#8221; over the weekend, I was tickled to be reminded that its intro is identical to that of &#8220;Rodrigo&#8221;!</p>
<p>Mr Love also recorded funky big band workouts under the pseudonym of &#8220;Mandingo&#8221; around the same time as well as being the musical director for Max Bygraves and his heartrending Singalonga series of albums, all of which cumulated in 1976 with the most ludicrous album title ever, <i>100 Golden Greats</i> (on Ronco, no less).</p>
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		<title>By: Mark G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember my mother raving about this fantastic piece of music she'd heard, and from the title of it I was expecting some incredibly flamboyant piece of flamenco music. Then I heard it and was 'oh'. I suspect Terry Wogan was to blame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember my mother raving about this fantastic piece of music she&#8217;d heard, and from the title of it I was expecting some incredibly flamboyant piece of flamenco music. Then I heard it and was &#8216;oh&#8217;. I suspect Terry Wogan was to blame.</p>
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		<title>By: Waldo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Waldo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless I'm mistaken, the "Fawlty" episode in question (to wit - The Rat) was second season (1979) and thus was three years after this event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless I&#8217;m mistaken, the &#8220;Fawlty&#8221; episode in question (to wit - The Rat) was second season (1979) and thus was three years after this event.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Punctum</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ Punctum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many thanks to Waldo for definitively clearing up the Manuel situation, but were the BMRB really using computers at that time or still relying on the thick bound Peter Stuyvesant-style black A4 diaries that they received back from the Woolworths and Rumbelows counters of this great nation?

However, I cannot remotely remember what prompted the Geoff Love/Manuel disc to become so popular in the first place since I don't remember it being used on any TV show or film at the time.  Maybe some people thought it was something to do with &lt;i&gt;Fawlty Towers&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks to Waldo for definitively clearing up the Manuel situation, but were the BMRB really using computers at that time or still relying on the thick bound Peter Stuyvesant-style black A4 diaries that they received back from the Woolworths and Rumbelows counters of this great nation?</p>
<p>However, I cannot remotely remember what prompted the Geoff Love/Manuel disc to become so popular in the first place since I don&#8217;t remember it being used on any TV show or film at the time.  Maybe some people thought it was something to do with <i>Fawlty Towers</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Waldo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Waldo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rosie # 69 - That may well be true but I'm far too sensible to want to try and find out. With regards Stockwell Manor (now Stockwell Park) I continue to follow the principle of Steely Dan...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rosie # 69 - That may well be true but I&#8217;m far too sensible to want to try and find out. With regards Stockwell Manor (now Stockwell Park) I continue to follow the principle of Steely Dan&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Waldo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Waldo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 07:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My main memory of this was a gigantic cock-up by the BMRB, which produced the chart for Radio One back then. I remember very clearly being at home, either on a sickie or half-term, on the Tuesday the chart came out. From the offset things were crazy with most peculiar movements all over the place. I was actually writing the chart down and at one point scribbled “Oh, what a chart!” in the margin. At one o’clock, Johnnie announced the number one as Geoff Love’s “Rodrigo’s Guitar Concerto” and this was promptly played as the new chart topper. Almost immediately, it was admitted that there had been “irregularities” with the calculating computer and that the chart was suspended. As it turned out, there were no nefarious goings-on. The computer had simply suffered a malfunction. Nevertheless, it was pointed out that certain sections of the chart were wrong and that the rundown would have to be recalculated.

Later that afternoon, Dave Lee Travis, who regularly reprised the chart on his show, welcomed a lady from the BMRB onto the air to explain the error. In a nice touch, DLT asked the lady to deliver the revised and now correct chart rundown. This order of play was void totally of any salmon-like leaps by records which had previously been on the way down having already peaked and The Four Seasons were reinstated at number one, thereby confining the ill-starred Mr Love (ludicrously billed as “Manuel and the Music of the Mountains”) to the records books as “the number one that never was”.

As for “December ’63…”, I felt that this was first rate, an excellent piece of pop fully deserving of its success during what was the second or perhaps even third coming of this particular pop group. I nevertheless remained conscious that the date in the song was indeed a “very special time” in the United States, Kennedy having just been made a monkey of in Dallas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My main memory of this was a gigantic cock-up by the BMRB, which produced the chart for Radio One back then. I remember very clearly being at home, either on a sickie or half-term, on the Tuesday the chart came out. From the offset things were crazy with most peculiar movements all over the place. I was actually writing the chart down and at one point scribbled “Oh, what a chart!” in the margin. At one o’clock, Johnnie announced the number one as Geoff Love’s “Rodrigo’s Guitar Concerto” and this was promptly played as the new chart topper. Almost immediately, it was admitted that there had been “irregularities” with the calculating computer and that the chart was suspended. As it turned out, there were no nefarious goings-on. The computer had simply suffered a malfunction. Nevertheless, it was pointed out that certain sections of the chart were wrong and that the rundown would have to be recalculated.</p>
<p>Later that afternoon, Dave Lee Travis, who regularly reprised the chart on his show, welcomed a lady from the BMRB onto the air to explain the error. In a nice touch, DLT asked the lady to deliver the revised and now correct chart rundown. This order of play was void totally of any salmon-like leaps by records which had previously been on the way down having already peaked and The Four Seasons were reinstated at number one, thereby confining the ill-starred Mr Love (ludicrously billed as “Manuel and the Music of the Mountains”) to the records books as “the number one that never was”.</p>
<p>As for “December ’63…”, I felt that this was first rate, an excellent piece of pop fully deserving of its success during what was the second or perhaps even third coming of this particular pop group. I nevertheless remained conscious that the date in the song was indeed a “very special time” in the United States, Kennedy having just been made a monkey of in Dallas.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By 1965, though, their &lt;i&gt;commercial standing&lt;/i&gt; was suffering badly through &lt;i&gt;what their core fanbase viewed, rightly or wrongly, as&lt;/i&gt; attempts to be “trendy”.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By 1965, though, their <i>commercial standing</i> was suffering badly through <i>what their core fanbase viewed, rightly or wrongly, as</i> attempts to be “trendy”.</p>
<p>???</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Punctum</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ Punctum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's probable that their chart positions and overall popularity fell gradually in the States after '65 but that's not the same thing as declining quality of output.  One might as well criticise things like "Lady Marmalade" and "Get Dancing" (both of which involved Gaudio and/or Crewe) for jumping on a non-existent "trendy" bandwagon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s probable that their chart positions and overall popularity fell gradually in the States after &#8216;65 but that&#8217;s not the same thing as declining quality of output.  One might as well criticise things like &#8220;Lady Marmalade&#8221; and &#8220;Get Dancing&#8221; (both of which involved Gaudio and/or Crewe) for jumping on a non-existent &#8220;trendy&#8221; bandwagon.</p>
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		<title>By: Lena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've never heard their version of "We Can Work It Out" but it's not like they disappeared after The Beatles/British Invasion happened...but they only had one more #1 (the justly praised "Rag Doll") in the 60s, then popped up again in with this song (a transatlantic #1!)

They also had to compete against another huge force known as Motown, which may also account for their sudden lack of #1s...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never heard their version of &#8220;We Can Work It Out&#8221; but it&#8217;s not like they disappeared after The Beatles/British Invasion happened&#8230;but they only had one more #1 (the justly praised &#8220;Rag Doll&#8221;) in the 60s, then popped up again in with this song (a transatlantic #1!)</p>
<p>They also had to compete against another huge force known as Motown, which may also account for their sudden lack of #1s&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Punctum</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/04/four-seasons-december-1963-oh-what-a-night/#comment-412166</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ Punctum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;By 1965, though, their output was suffering badly through attempts to be “trendy.”&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, folks - "Let's Hang On," "Bye Bye Baby," "I've Got You Under My Skin," "Opus 17," &lt;i&gt;Genuine Imitation Life Gazette&lt;/i&gt;, "I've Got You Under My Skin," "You're Ready Now," "Can't Take My Eyes Off You," "The Night," &lt;i&gt;Who Loves You?&lt;/i&gt;, etc. etc. etc. - all substandard rot.

Jesus wept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>By 1965, though, their output was suffering badly through attempts to be “trendy.”</i></p>
<p>Yes, folks - &#8220;Let&#8217;s Hang On,&#8221; &#8220;Bye Bye Baby,&#8221; &#8220;I&#8217;ve Got You Under My Skin,&#8221; &#8220;Opus 17,&#8221; <i>Genuine Imitation Life Gazette</i>, &#8220;I&#8217;ve Got You Under My Skin,&#8221; &#8220;You&#8217;re Ready Now,&#8221; &#8220;Can&#8217;t Take My Eyes Off You,&#8221; &#8220;The Night,&#8221; <i>Who Loves You?</i>, etc. etc. etc. - all substandard rot.</p>
<p>Jesus wept.</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Mod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctor Mod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the Four Seasons had several substantial hits in 1964, including perhaps their singularly best recording, "Rag Doll."  (I must confess a real fondness for the Steeleye Span cover thereof.)  By 1965, though, their output was suffering badly through attempts to be "trendy."  (With the exception of Bob Gaudio, they were well beyond the average age of mid-60s rock stars and they never really "got it" after the British Invasion.)

There was also a hard core of American fans who never really warmed to the Brits.  I remember a big schism among the girls in my school--no, we didn't have a shooting team--between the girls who loved the Brits (whose masculinity was suspect in some American eyes) and the girls who loved the Four Seasons, the Beach Boys, etc.  (i.e.,  "real men," "regular guys," "average Joes").  Perhaps it was merely coincidental, but in a school where the girls were separated in thirds according to aptitude, the girls in the upper third loved the Brits (though I was suspected of loving Dusty even more than the Beatles, for which I was chided); the girls in the lower third loved the pre-1964 dudes; the middle third loved or hated everyone.  

&lt;i&gt;All This and World War II&lt;/i&gt;?  Apparently a whole lot of people had vendettas against the Beatles if they went to all that effort to make that film.  (What brilliant mind conceived of using Beatles' covers as a soundtrack to WWII documentary footage??)

It was only a few months ago that I saw a television programme featuring some elderly American former pop stars.  And yes, they were grousing about the British Invasion bringing about "the end of our innocence."  (Yes, that's what one of them said.)  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the Four Seasons had several substantial hits in 1964, including perhaps their singularly best recording, &#8220;Rag Doll.&#8221;  (I must confess a real fondness for the Steeleye Span cover thereof.)  By 1965, though, their output was suffering badly through attempts to be &#8220;trendy.&#8221;  (With the exception of Bob Gaudio, they were well beyond the average age of mid-60s rock stars and they never really &#8220;got it&#8221; after the British Invasion.)</p>
<p>There was also a hard core of American fans who never really warmed to the Brits.  I remember a big schism among the girls in my school&#8211;no, we didn&#8217;t have a shooting team&#8211;between the girls who loved the Brits (whose masculinity was suspect in some American eyes) and the girls who loved the Four Seasons, the Beach Boys, etc.  (i.e.,  &#8220;real men,&#8221; &#8220;regular guys,&#8221; &#8220;average Joes&#8221;).  Perhaps it was merely coincidental, but in a school where the girls were separated in thirds according to aptitude, the girls in the upper third loved the Brits (though I was suspected of loving Dusty even more than the Beatles, for which I was chided); the girls in the lower third loved the pre-1964 dudes; the middle third loved or hated everyone.  </p>
<p><i>All This and World War II</i>?  Apparently a whole lot of people had vendettas against the Beatles if they went to all that effort to make that film.  (What brilliant mind conceived of using Beatles&#8217; covers as a soundtrack to WWII documentary footage??)</p>
<p>It was only a few months ago that I saw a television programme featuring some elderly American former pop stars.  And yes, they were grousing about the British Invasion bringing about &#8220;the end of our innocence.&#8221;  (Yes, that&#8217;s what one of them said.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Their "we can work it out" was saved by the bit of "I want you (She's so heavy)" they added to the "Fussing and fighting my friend" line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their &#8220;we can work it out&#8221; was saved by the bit of &#8220;I want you (She&#8217;s so heavy)&#8221; they added to the &#8220;Fussing and fighting my friend&#8221; line.</p>
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		<title>By: rosie</title>
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		<dc:creator>rosie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Waldo's old school may have a shooting team these days!</description>
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		<title>By: LondonLee</title>
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		<dc:creator>LondonLee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Going to a school with a &lt;I&gt;shooting team&lt;/I&gt; seems a bit posh to me, even if it wasn't Harrow or Eton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going to a school with a <i>shooting team</i> seems a bit posh to me, even if it wasn&#8217;t Harrow or Eton.</p>
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