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	<title>Comments on: Europop 2008: Group D - Sweden 0 Greece 2</title>
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	<description>Lollards in the high church of low culture</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 11:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>over 1000 downloads here too</description>
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		<title>By: jel</title>
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		<dc:creator>jel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PAH! My players will certainly be looking for revenge. The lads are angry about the refereeing decisions, and the hostility of the crowd. I wouldn't want to be our next opponents.</description>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can sympathise with the Swedish manager but rules are rules: his player was certainly timewasting and it was a second bookable solo. My Greek boys did their best and it turned out to be enough: not the most elegant of goals but they all count.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can sympathise with the Swedish manager but rules are rules: his player was certainly timewasting and it was a second bookable solo. My Greek boys did their best and it turned out to be enough: not the most elegant of goals but they all count.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt DC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's the first major upset of the tournament, Maniche!</description>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what's a greek urn? 3 points</description>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 09:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>24 hours left to vote in this one, if you haven't.</description>
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		<title>By: fernando</title>
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		<dc:creator>fernando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 12:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Young, fearless greeks beats the hell out of experienced (but safe-playing) swedish eleven.</description>
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		<title>By: CarsmileSteve</title>
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		<dc:creator>CarsmileSteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 12:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have to concur with AlanDC here Gary, the greeks are solid across midfield, but let down by that striker, i don't think he could hit a cow's arse with a banjo to be fair.  think the swedes could sneak this one despite their old school tactics...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have to concur with AlanDC here Gary, the greeks are solid across midfield, but let down by that striker, i don&#8217;t think he could hit a cow&#8217;s arse with a banjo to be fair.  think the swedes could sneak this one despite their old school tactics&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Mod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctor Mod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 02:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sweden!  How could you?!?!?!?  The only team the Dutch fear, and you give us a Foreigner imitation?  (Truly, that's who I thought it was!)  

The Greek thing is very 80s (and nothing wrong with that) and has a certain awkward charm.  It gets my vote.</description>
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<p>The Greek thing is very 80s (and nothing wrong with that) and has a certain awkward charm.  It gets my vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt DC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is no mere ball-juggling from Sweden, it's four stepovers, a flick up and then bouncing the ball off the nose while running away from the defender. Then hacked down by the Greeks' solid, physical, eight-men-behind-the-ball electropop reducer.

Unfortunately the Greeks are too solid, too physical, some would say a bit cumbersome. I keep wanting the beat to be more limber, the bassline to be a bit more propulsive, hell, is a bit of flair too much to ask? This sounds a bit like how the Greek Doves or Snow Patrol would sound, trying to make an electropop record. And then the Greek Enya comes on as a sub, but I'm afraid the Swedes are running rings round them by now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is no mere ball-juggling from Sweden, it&#8217;s four stepovers, a flick up and then bouncing the ball off the nose while running away from the defender. Then hacked down by the Greeks&#8217; solid, physical, eight-men-behind-the-ball electropop reducer.</p>
<p>Unfortunately the Greeks are too solid, too physical, some would say a bit cumbersome. I keep wanting the beat to be more limber, the bassline to be a bit more propulsive, hell, is a bit of flair too much to ask? This sounds a bit like how the Greek Doves or Snow Patrol would sound, trying to make an electropop record. And then the Greek Enya comes on as a sub, but I&#8217;m afraid the Swedes are running rings round them by now.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Mannion</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/04/europop-2008-group-d-sweden-v-greece/#comment-402398</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Mannion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'The match reports are designed to reflect the balance of reader comments within the metaphorical ‘football game’ structure.'

i like this btw - fewer votes (and fewer comments too perhaps) = fewer goals basically?</description>
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<p>i like this btw - fewer votes (and fewer comments too perhaps) = fewer goals basically?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Mannion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Mannion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'It’s Death Metal or crappy indie next time around I think.'

None more threatening!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;It’s Death Metal or crappy indie next time around I think.&#8217;</p>
<p>None more threatening!</p>
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		<title>By: jel</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/04/europop-2008-group-d-sweden-v-greece/#comment-402394</link>
		<dc:creator>jel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I quite like the Greek song, it's kinda like all those Elefant records bands that I like, but of course I am voting for Sweden. It's Death Metal or crappy indie next time around I think. I'm going to send myself to the stands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quite like the Greek song, it&#8217;s kinda like all those Elefant records bands that I like, but of course I am voting for Sweden. It&#8217;s Death Metal or crappy indie next time around I think. I&#8217;m going to send myself to the stands.</p>
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		<title>By: koganbot</title>
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		<dc:creator>koganbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm. &lt;i&gt;Sweden&lt;/i&gt;. I like the whole guitar-rock-becomes-hair-pomp-disco thing, and "Final Countdown" was as good at synth flourishes as anything ever. This one, I'm liking but not loving the song, in fact prefer the guitar riffs to the main melody, and like the guitar going violinish in the solo. &lt;i&gt;Greece&lt;/i&gt; discovers robots, teaches them to sing. Perhaps they were better not singing, since they were excellent ça planning their moi at the start but became watery when the melody intruded.

This will come down to the Background Music Test, I think. Leaning Greece.

I heartily concur with the three ties that have been revealed so far, and would have preferred a tie in the Turkey-Portugal bout as well. My fave songs have been from Austria, "Croatia," Turkey, and Portugal in that order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm. <i>Sweden</i>. I like the whole guitar-rock-becomes-hair-pomp-disco thing, and &#8220;Final Countdown&#8221; was as good at synth flourishes as anything ever. This one, I&#8217;m liking but not loving the song, in fact prefer the guitar riffs to the main melody, and like the guitar going violinish in the solo. <i>Greece</i> discovers robots, teaches them to sing. Perhaps they were better not singing, since they were excellent ça planning their moi at the start but became watery when the melody intruded.</p>
<p>This will come down to the Background Music Test, I think. Leaning Greece.</p>
<p>I heartily concur with the three ties that have been revealed so far, and would have preferred a tie in the Turkey-Portugal bout as well. My fave songs have been from Austria, &#8220;Croatia,&#8221; Turkey, and Portugal in that order.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt DC</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/04/europop-2008-group-d-sweden-v-greece/#comment-402384</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly no team has yet tried packing the midfield and playing NO VOCALIST AT ALL.</description>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the PWC and League Of Pop I worked hard to try and make sure the 'scorelines' reflected the balance of voting etc etc. This time I can't be bothered, beyond win/lose/draw: they don't actually matter, so your 0-0 was kind of arbitrary. (Ties in the rankings will be decided on vote difference not goal difference) 

The match reports are designed to reflect the balance of reader comments within the metaphorical 'football game' structure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the PWC and League Of Pop I worked hard to try and make sure the &#8217;scorelines&#8217; reflected the balance of voting etc etc. This time I can&#8217;t be bothered, beyond win/lose/draw: they don&#8217;t actually matter, so your 0-0 was kind of arbitrary. (Ties in the rankings will be decided on vote difference not goal difference) </p>
<p>The match reports are designed to reflect the balance of reader comments within the metaphorical &#8216;football game&#8217; structure.</p>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd rather have a less-good song done by a better vocalist than a better song ruined by a bad vocalist!

btw how come GER-POL was a 0-0 draw and the other draws were all 1-1?</description>
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<p>btw how come GER-POL was a 0-0 draw and the other draws were all 1-1?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is another vocalist in the band (she comes on as a substitute here!) who is better but the songs she's on are worse.</description>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm tempted to give NEITHER side a vote, both these songs are kind of terrible. GRE are more deserving though: awful galumphing vocals may ruin barely-passable music, but it's preferable to SWE: there is nothing good about naff hair metal, nothing at all. I barely made it half a minute in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m tempted to give NEITHER side a vote, both these songs are kind of terrible. GRE are more deserving though: awful galumphing vocals may ruin barely-passable music, but it&#8217;s preferable to SWE: there is nothing good about naff hair metal, nothing at all. I barely made it half a minute in.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Baran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Baran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My views on the use of the older, superstar players beyond their prime is well known, but I don't think the Greek's will be phased at all by their opposition. At least Sweden are using an unusual formation, the initial surprise may throw the Greek's - expecting them to play a different style. But by the Final Countdown, it comes down to some lovely harmonies in the chorus. 

Greece by a long way I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My views on the use of the older, superstar players beyond their prime is well known, but I don&#8217;t think the Greek&#8217;s will be phased at all by their opposition. At least Sweden are using an unusual formation, the initial surprise may throw the Greek&#8217;s - expecting them to play a different style. But by the Final Countdown, it comes down to some lovely harmonies in the chorus. </p>
<p>Greece by a long way I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Greek coach is quietly confident that the outrageous and disrespectful Swedish display of ball-juggling in the second half will severely backfire!</description>
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		<title>By: Steve Mannion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Mannion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was fond of this Swedish strikeforce 20 years ago but although elements of their game have fallen in the years since only to rise again and be adapted into the modern game, I have decided to stick to a self-imposed 'last ten years only' policy when it comes to voting. As it happens I think the Greeks match up on this occasion hurrah but it could be another 0-0...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was fond of this Swedish strikeforce 20 years ago but although elements of their game have fallen in the years since only to rise again and be adapted into the modern game, I have decided to stick to a self-imposed &#8216;last ten years only&#8217; policy when it comes to voting. As it happens I think the Greeks match up on this occasion hurrah but it could be another 0-0&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt DC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We're anticipating a tighter game here than many have predicted - the Swedes would like you to think they're tough-tackling hardmen but I bet they're really a team of preening ponces underneath. 

Meanwhile the Greeks will be relying on plucky underdog status and possible complacency from their opponents, plus bags of enthusiasm of course. Still, you can get away without the greatest players in the world if the ones you do have are well-organised, well-drilled and committed. Promises to be an intriguing tie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re anticipating a tighter game here than many have predicted - the Swedes would like you to think they&#8217;re tough-tackling hardmen but I bet they&#8217;re really a team of preening ponces underneath. </p>
<p>Meanwhile the Greeks will be relying on plucky underdog status and possible complacency from their opponents, plus bags of enthusiasm of course. Still, you can get away without the greatest players in the world if the ones you do have are well-organised, well-drilled and committed. Promises to be an intriguing tie.</p>
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