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	<title>Comments on: ART GARFUNKEL - &#8220;I Only Have Eyes For You&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: pink champale</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/04/art-garfunkel-i-only-have-eyes-for-you/#comment-410240</link>
		<dc:creator>pink champale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>er, fugees</description>
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		<title>By: pink champale</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/04/art-garfunkel-i-only-have-eyes-for-you/#comment-410238</link>
		<dc:creator>pink champale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has been sampled, hasn’t it? Stupid question, given the all-embracing reach of sampling, but if anyone can place it, I’d be grateful.

the sampling i know of is the song that goes "another mc loses life tonight..." on the fugrees' 'score'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been sampled, hasn’t it? Stupid question, given the all-embracing reach of sampling, but if anyone can place it, I’d be grateful.</p>
<p>the sampling i know of is the song that goes &#8220;another mc loses life tonight&#8230;&#8221; on the fugrees&#8217; &#8217;score&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yes, I have courage. But not it seems a particularly courageous requesting an opinion about Paul Simon at BAM (not that you gave me). 
There will be perhaps a little snobbish? (If you know what it means). However thanks to the attention that have dedicated and for the welcome</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes, I have courage. But not it seems a particularly courageous requesting an opinion about Paul Simon at BAM (not that you gave me).<br />
There will be perhaps a little snobbish? (If you know what it means). However thanks to the attention that have dedicated and for the welcome</p>
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		<title>By: Erithian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erithian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, fair enough, I take that back.</description>
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		<title>By: DJ Punctum</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/04/art-garfunkel-i-only-have-eyes-for-you/#comment-409824</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ Punctum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't do piss taking or sending up here, Erithian - it's a great sentence whatever its genesis.

Also my first language is Italian so I know perfectly well what she meant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t do piss taking or sending up here, Erithian - it&#8217;s a great sentence whatever its genesis.</p>
<p>Also my first language is Italian so I know perfectly well what she meant.</p>
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		<title>By: Erithian</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/04/art-garfunkel-i-only-have-eyes-for-you/#comment-409816</link>
		<dc:creator>Erithian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, don't take the piss Punctum - it's no doubt a literal translation of an Italian phrase that means something like "food for thought".  It takes guts to post on a website in a foreign language, so don't send her up!

Anne - welcome aboard, and please comment on other entries on this site.

Just realised I haven't given my verdict on this record yet, so here it is - soporific.  Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, don&#8217;t take the piss Punctum - it&#8217;s no doubt a literal translation of an Italian phrase that means something like &#8220;food for thought&#8221;.  It takes guts to post on a website in a foreign language, so don&#8217;t send her up!</p>
<p>Anne - welcome aboard, and please comment on other entries on this site.</p>
<p>Just realised I haven&#8217;t given my verdict on this record yet, so here it is - soporific.  Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Punctum</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/04/art-garfunkel-i-only-have-eyes-for-you/#comment-409800</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ Punctum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Bread for your teeth!&lt;/i&gt;

Greatest sentence EVER posted in Popular Comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Bread for your teeth!</i></p>
<p>Greatest sentence EVER posted in Popular Comments!</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/04/art-garfunkel-i-only-have-eyes-for-you/#comment-409551</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 22:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to participate in your depth discussion ... formidable. 
There are two things that prevent me: Do not speak English (I am Italian) and use a translator; my musical culture is very limited ... I read with admiration your depth arguments. 
That said, please evaluate the cycle of performances in honor of Paul Simon at BAM
He revisited the Capeman to overcome the old failure, it was autocelebrate with African repertoire, and revisits the quiet railway stations, urban rhythms, and immigrant dreams of his greatest American tunes collaborates "with an extraordinary range of artists that are OLU DARA, GRIZZLY BEAR, JOSH GROBAN, AMOS LEE, THE ROCHES, GILLIAN WELCH… " No trace of ART GARFUNKEL. Paul knows that many people have loved and love the harmonization of Simon &#38; Garfunkel, but has decided to "cancel" that because, I tink,to deny the contribution made to its success by the great voice of Art Garfunkel.
I not understand how a brilliant man and sensitive can act with great firmness, ignoring the demands of fans and the cultural importance of those songs, that sound.
. With reneweds versions of classic songs S &#38; G. Americantune begins this evening. You go to the theatre? I would be happy to read your commentary.
He seems an interesting topic though appears complicated. Bread for your teeth!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to participate in your depth discussion &#8230; formidable.<br />
There are two things that prevent me: Do not speak English (I am Italian) and use a translator; my musical culture is very limited &#8230; I read with admiration your depth arguments.<br />
That said, please evaluate the cycle of performances in honor of Paul Simon at BAM<br />
He revisited the Capeman to overcome the old failure, it was autocelebrate with African repertoire, and revisits the quiet railway stations, urban rhythms, and immigrant dreams of his greatest American tunes collaborates &#8220;with an extraordinary range of artists that are OLU DARA, GRIZZLY BEAR, JOSH GROBAN, AMOS LEE, THE ROCHES, GILLIAN WELCH… &#8221; No trace of ART GARFUNKEL. Paul knows that many people have loved and love the harmonization of Simon &amp; Garfunkel, but has decided to &#8220;cancel&#8221; that because, I tink,to deny the contribution made to its success by the great voice of Art Garfunkel.<br />
I not understand how a brilliant man and sensitive can act with great firmness, ignoring the demands of fans and the cultural importance of those songs, that sound.<br />
. With reneweds versions of classic songs S &amp; G. Americantune begins this evening. You go to the theatre? I would be happy to read your commentary.<br />
He seems an interesting topic though appears complicated. Bread for your teeth!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Brown</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/04/art-garfunkel-i-only-have-eyes-for-you/#comment-406809</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've only heard this record a couple of times in my life, including the time when McAlmont &#38; Butler chose it on Ken Bruce's show... but the bunny won't let me tell you what they said then.

I quite like it, but even now the one bit I don't totally grasp is how it managed to do so well. That's in no way a criticism, but it intrigues me that it could do so well when other versions had failed (commercially) and Art wasn't a consistently popular singles act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve only heard this record a couple of times in my life, including the time when McAlmont &amp; Butler chose it on Ken Bruce&#8217;s show&#8230; but the bunny won&#8217;t let me tell you what they said then.</p>
<p>I quite like it, but even now the one bit I don&#8217;t totally grasp is how it managed to do so well. That&#8217;s in no way a criticism, but it intrigues me that it could do so well when other versions had failed (commercially) and Art wasn&#8217;t a consistently popular singles act.</p>
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		<title>By: henry s</title>
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		<dc:creator>henry s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grenadine (Mark Robinson, Jen Toomey, some other guy) did a gorgeous version on their Goya LP...can this song be botched?</description>
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		<title>By: wwolfe</title>
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		<dc:creator>wwolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very groovy coincidence:

I post at a "Buffy" web site called The Cross and Stake, where we are re-viewing all 144 episodes in chronological order (a project not totally unlike what's happening here with singles).  This very day, we're discussing - you guessed it - "I Only Have Eyes For You."  Rest assured I pointed out your site and this entry to my fellow "Buffy" lovers.

I love this phrase: "this big fuzzy oven glove of sound."  That's perfect.  And I'm happy to see you feel the same about the Flamingos' version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very groovy coincidence:</p>
<p>I post at a &#8220;Buffy&#8221; web site called The Cross and Stake, where we are re-viewing all 144 episodes in chronological order (a project not totally unlike what&#8217;s happening here with singles).  This very day, we&#8217;re discussing - you guessed it - &#8220;I Only Have Eyes For You.&#8221;  Rest assured I pointed out your site and this entry to my fellow &#8220;Buffy&#8221; lovers.</p>
<p>I love this phrase: &#8220;this big fuzzy oven glove of sound.&#8221;  That&#8217;s perfect.  And I&#8217;m happy to see you feel the same about the Flamingos&#8217; version.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcello Carlin</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/04/art-garfunkel-i-only-have-eyes-for-you/#comment-406645</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcello Carlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Simon also returns to number one later, but not on his own...</description>
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		<title>By: Waldo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Waldo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 06:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TOTP depicted Art ducking in and out of London taxis as a backdrop to this excellent piece. Garfunkel tackles an old standard and does it well. I was delighted when it hit the top (as Paul Gambichinni assured us it would) as by then I could bore for England (Private Frazer: “And Scotland!”) with regards Paul and Art thanks to my brother false feeding me everything from “Wednesday Morning 3AM” right up to when they parted company following “Bridge Over Troubled Water”, an album which is undoubtedly one of pop/rock’s masterpieces. Paul Simon was by this time well into his own solo career and had already released “Still Crazy After All These Years”, yet another remarkable body of work. In the meantime, in nipped Artie to achieve what Paul never did and score a solo UK number one. He was to return to the top later, Garfunkel, with that bloody (spoiler) bunny song, which on reflection made me feel far less guilty for having written “Boxing Day Bobby” back in 1974.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TOTP depicted Art ducking in and out of London taxis as a backdrop to this excellent piece. Garfunkel tackles an old standard and does it well. I was delighted when it hit the top (as Paul Gambichinni assured us it would) as by then I could bore for England (Private Frazer: “And Scotland!”) with regards Paul and Art thanks to my brother false feeding me everything from “Wednesday Morning 3AM” right up to when they parted company following “Bridge Over Troubled Water”, an album which is undoubtedly one of pop/rock’s masterpieces. Paul Simon was by this time well into his own solo career and had already released “Still Crazy After All These Years”, yet another remarkable body of work. In the meantime, in nipped Artie to achieve what Paul never did and score a solo UK number one. He was to return to the top later, Garfunkel, with that bloody (spoiler) bunny song, which on reflection made me feel far less guilty for having written “Boxing Day Bobby” back in 1974.</p>
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		<title>By: LondonLee</title>
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		<dc:creator>LondonLee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd pick &lt;I&gt;Diner&lt;/I&gt; as my favourite Boomer 50s nostalgia movie, it does remember the pre-rock n' roll era as the characters in the movie talk about Sinatra and Johnny Mathis as well as Little Richard - probably because they're slightly older than the kids in &lt;I&gt;American Graffiti&lt;/I&gt;. 

Also it has the greatest movie record geek ever in Daniel  Stern's character who can name the b-side of all his singles and tells his wife what record was playing the first time he ever saw her as a retort to her question "What's the big deal? They're just &lt;I&gt;records"&lt;/I&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d pick <i>Diner</i> as my favourite Boomer 50s nostalgia movie, it does remember the pre-rock n&#8217; roll era as the characters in the movie talk about Sinatra and Johnny Mathis as well as Little Richard - probably because they&#8217;re slightly older than the kids in <i>American Graffiti</i>. </p>
<p>Also it has the greatest movie record geek ever in Daniel  Stern&#8217;s character who can name the b-side of all his singles and tells his wife what record was playing the first time he ever saw her as a retort to her question &#8220;What&#8217;s the big deal? They&#8217;re just <i>records&#8221;</i></p>
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		<title>By: Matthew H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought I didn't know this but - having now YouTubed - of course I do. It's nagging at me, though. This has been sampled, hasn't it? Stupid question, given the all-embracing reach of sampling, but if anyone can place it, I'd be grateful.

Also YT-ed the Flamingos take on it, which has a dreamy poise that Art doesn't quite manage. I like Art's version all the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought I didn&#8217;t know this but - having now YouTubed - of course I do. It&#8217;s nagging at me, though. This has been sampled, hasn&#8217;t it? Stupid question, given the all-embracing reach of sampling, but if anyone can place it, I&#8217;d be grateful.</p>
<p>Also YT-ed the Flamingos take on it, which has a dreamy poise that Art doesn&#8217;t quite manage. I like Art&#8217;s version all the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Drucius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drucius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Flamingos version is a thing of wonder, Arts is adequate.</description>
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		<title>By: rosie</title>
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		<dc:creator>rosie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now there, Mark, is the rub!  The post-war experience in Britain and America is different because the experiences of the war were totally different, and naturally the experiences of the consequences of the war were different - America, where no bombs fell, experiencing a sharp rise in prosperity while a shattered Britain, and Europe in general, picked up the pieces and began to rebuild.  It was a long process - rationing didn't end in Britain until 1954, the year that I was born.  Britain did have the welfare state in this period, and that alone would have made a big difference (growing up on welfare orange juice - yum!  When was that withdrawn?).  A new generation grew up with a guaranteed school meal made to nutritional standards - they may not have been the kind of nutritional standards we'd approve of today but it was universal, and the first time a whole generation of children had eaten properly.

Where do things change?  To some extent it's all lines in the sand but there are times when you can point to significant points in history that changed everything.  1945 was one obvious such point - not only the end of the war but also the year of Hiroshima, Nagasaki (already alluded to recently) and yes, Dresden.  The seismic shift in the nature of the charts around 1962/63 surely didn't happen in isolation; it was the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis (the Cold War affected Britain much less than it did America until this point); the Kennedy assassination; Vietnam; but also the Chatterley trial and - most significant of all perhaps - the contraceptive pill.  If you were sixteen in 1963 you were born in - 1947.  Hmmm...

And then comes the mid 70s.  The oil crisis which began in 1973 was really beginning to bite by 1975 and the properity that had hitherto been taken for granted now began to fall apart.  1975 is also the year of &lt;em&gt;Jaws&lt;/em&gt;, which began a new era of mainstream Hollywood film production.  I'd venture to suggest that the average age of the buyer of singles had come down too, and if you were just entering your teens in 1975 you would have been born in - 1962/63!

By the way, my favourite Baby Boom film, which is perhaps more liminal and illustrative of the transition rather than full-blown Babybooming, is Peter Bogdanovitch's &lt;em&gt;The Last Picture Show&lt;/em&gt;.  The soundtrack to that features names from the very early days of &lt;em&gt;Popular&lt;/em&gt; - Jo Stafford, Eddie Fisher, Tony Bennett...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now there, Mark, is the rub!  The post-war experience in Britain and America is different because the experiences of the war were totally different, and naturally the experiences of the consequences of the war were different - America, where no bombs fell, experiencing a sharp rise in prosperity while a shattered Britain, and Europe in general, picked up the pieces and began to rebuild.  It was a long process - rationing didn&#8217;t end in Britain until 1954, the year that I was born.  Britain did have the welfare state in this period, and that alone would have made a big difference (growing up on welfare orange juice - yum!  When was that withdrawn?).  A new generation grew up with a guaranteed school meal made to nutritional standards - they may not have been the kind of nutritional standards we&#8217;d approve of today but it was universal, and the first time a whole generation of children had eaten properly.</p>
<p>Where do things change?  To some extent it&#8217;s all lines in the sand but there are times when you can point to significant points in history that changed everything.  1945 was one obvious such point - not only the end of the war but also the year of Hiroshima, Nagasaki (already alluded to recently) and yes, Dresden.  The seismic shift in the nature of the charts around 1962/63 surely didn&#8217;t happen in isolation; it was the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis (the Cold War affected Britain much less than it did America until this point); the Kennedy assassination; Vietnam; but also the Chatterley trial and - most significant of all perhaps - the contraceptive pill.  If you were sixteen in 1963 you were born in - 1947.  Hmmm&#8230;</p>
<p>And then comes the mid 70s.  The oil crisis which began in 1973 was really beginning to bite by 1975 and the properity that had hitherto been taken for granted now began to fall apart.  1975 is also the year of <em>Jaws</em>, which began a new era of mainstream Hollywood film production.  I&#8217;d venture to suggest that the average age of the buyer of singles had come down too, and if you were just entering your teens in 1975 you would have been born in - 1962/63!</p>
<p>By the way, my favourite Baby Boom film, which is perhaps more liminal and illustrative of the transition rather than full-blown Babybooming, is Peter Bogdanovitch&#8217;s <em>The Last Picture Show</em>.  The soundtrack to that features names from the very early days of <em>Popular</em> - Jo Stafford, Eddie Fisher, Tony Bennett&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: a logged out p^nk s lord sukråt wötsit</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/04/art-garfunkel-i-only-have-eyes-for-you/#comment-406107</link>
		<dc:creator>a logged out p^nk s lord sukråt wötsit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 07:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well since the original definition is nothing to do with the habits of difft generations when grown up and everything to do with a measurable statistical fact in the population -- which is what the wiki article is about, a population boom -- i think what's more likely is that (since there isn't a way for the population figures to have changed retro-actively) the cultural appropriation was always just sloppy about the end-point

also: there was a post-war pop'n boom in the us and a post-war pop'n boom in the uk, but did their ends coincide?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well since the original definition is nothing to do with the habits of difft generations when grown up and everything to do with a measurable statistical fact in the population &#8212; which is what the wiki article is about, a population boom &#8212; i think what&#8217;s more likely is that (since there isn&#8217;t a way for the population figures to have changed retro-actively) the cultural appropriation was always just sloppy about the end-point</p>
<p>also: there was a post-war pop&#8217;n boom in the us and a post-war pop&#8217;n boom in the uk, but did their ends coincide?</p>
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		<title>By: Lena</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/04/art-garfunkel-i-only-have-eyes-for-you/#comment-406040</link>
		<dc:creator>Lena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/13th-Gen-Abort-Retry-Ignore/dp/0679743650/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&#38;s=books&#38;qid=1208139249&#38;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow"&gt;13th Gen&lt;/a&gt; has Gen X starting in '61 and going to '75, for what it's worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/13th-Gen-Abort-Retry-Ignore/dp/0679743650/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1208139249&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.amazon.com/13th-Gen-Abort-Retry-Ignore/dp/0679743650/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8_amp_s=books_amp_qid=1208139249_amp_sr=8-1&amp;referer=');">13th Gen</a> has Gen X starting in &#8216;61 and going to &#8216;75, for what it&#8217;s worth.</p>
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		<title>By: Snif</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/04/art-garfunkel-i-only-have-eyes-for-you/#comment-406028</link>
		<dc:creator>Snif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 00:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"wikipedia sez 1946-64 is indeed the most commonly agreed period for the boom itself..."


But only recently, I'd wager - if memory serves, there was a time when the "boom" finished up around 1958; I say that because I recall a swag of TV docos etc that surfaced around the time of "The Big Chill" which all seemed more aimed at my old siblings. I was born in 1960 and remember thinking that I'd just missed being part of this so-called boom...I suspect that it's only after the rise and definitions of Generations X and Y that the boom period was sort of lengthened to take up the slack, as it were.

I could be wrong, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;wikipedia sez 1946-64 is indeed the most commonly agreed period for the boom itself&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>But only recently, I&#8217;d wager - if memory serves, there was a time when the &#8220;boom&#8221; finished up around 1958; I say that because I recall a swag of TV docos etc that surfaced around the time of &#8220;The Big Chill&#8221; which all seemed more aimed at my old siblings. I was born in 1960 and remember thinking that I&#8217;d just missed being part of this so-called boom&#8230;I suspect that it&#8217;s only after the rise and definitions of Generations X and Y that the boom period was sort of lengthened to take up the slack, as it were.</p>
<p>I could be wrong, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: a logged out p^nk s lord sukråt wötsit</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/04/art-garfunkel-i-only-have-eyes-for-you/#comment-406006</link>
		<dc:creator>a logged out p^nk s lord sukråt wötsit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>obviously you don't need "record clubs" to listen to records together -- but the rise of a large-scale student-directed press devoted to discussing singles and LPs, to sharing the news and the discussion, coincides with innovation in the print industry which mean that good-looking nicely printed full-colour magazines -- as opposed to crabbed little fanzines, or specialist journals like downbeat, or trade news sheets like billboard -- were suddenly widely available and widely affordable, on a qualititively different scale... which is where crawdaddy and rolling stone and creem came in (the uk equivs were a little late starting): anyway, the point is that a combo of a new medium of transmission AND a new medium of discussion was a bit of an unstoppable force

(also of course teens had more disposable income and were being consciously targeted as a distinct market blah blah)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>obviously you don&#8217;t need &#8220;record clubs&#8221; to listen to records together &#8212; but the rise of a large-scale student-directed press devoted to discussing singles and LPs, to sharing the news and the discussion, coincides with innovation in the print industry which mean that good-looking nicely printed full-colour magazines &#8212; as opposed to crabbed little fanzines, or specialist journals like downbeat, or trade news sheets like billboard &#8212; were suddenly widely available and widely affordable, on a qualititively different scale&#8230; which is where crawdaddy and rolling stone and creem came in (the uk equivs were a little late starting): anyway, the point is that a combo of a new medium of transmission AND a new medium of discussion was a bit of an unstoppable force</p>
<p>(also of course teens had more disposable income and were being consciously targeted as a distinct market blah blah)</p>
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		<title>By: a logged out p^nk s lord sukråt wötsit</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/04/art-garfunkel-i-only-have-eyes-for-you/#comment-406005</link>
		<dc:creator>a logged out p^nk s lord sukråt wötsit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wikipedia sez 1946-64 is indeed the most commonly agreed period for the boom itself -- ie the period where there was a bulge in babies being born... however "boomers" *is* now more generally used these days as a cultural catch-all for the earlier part of the actual population boom

(which is possibly one reason koganbot sed it wasn't a very clear term) 

it was the combination of a new generation of film writing (american as well as french) with college film clubs -- where you could actually see the films in question -- that brought about the shift: the writing on its own would have made little difference i suspect (the power of the new wave as a critical force rose on the back of a very potent and canny film-club movement in france, agitated for by andre bazin among others) 

this isn't even that much of an off-topic red herring -- i would certainly argue very strongly that the generational shift in taste, including an effacement* of all pop "before elvis" (more or less), is linked to a shift in recording technology -- the vanishing of the machinery to play 78s; the vanishing (or anyway massive reduction) of a context for sheet-music to be plugged to dance-bands; both these meant that the music that arrived via such technologies had no way to continue to play a role in people's lives

*there hasn't been any such moment of effacement since -- and this is because digital technology was explicitly geared towards the transfer of material record on earlier formats, this resale strategy was a central element in its sales pitch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wikipedia sez 1946-64 is indeed the most commonly agreed period for the boom itself &#8212; ie the period where there was a bulge in babies being born&#8230; however &#8220;boomers&#8221; *is* now more generally used these days as a cultural catch-all for the earlier part of the actual population boom</p>
<p>(which is possibly one reason koganbot sed it wasn&#8217;t a very clear term) </p>
<p>it was the combination of a new generation of film writing (american as well as french) with college film clubs &#8212; where you could actually see the films in question &#8212; that brought about the shift: the writing on its own would have made little difference i suspect (the power of the new wave as a critical force rose on the back of a very potent and canny film-club movement in france, agitated for by andre bazin among others) </p>
<p>this isn&#8217;t even that much of an off-topic red herring &#8212; i would certainly argue very strongly that the generational shift in taste, including an effacement* of all pop &#8220;before elvis&#8221; (more or less), is linked to a shift in recording technology &#8212; the vanishing of the machinery to play 78s; the vanishing (or anyway massive reduction) of a context for sheet-music to be plugged to dance-bands; both these meant that the music that arrived via such technologies had no way to continue to play a role in people&#8217;s lives</p>
<p>*there hasn&#8217;t been any such moment of effacement since &#8212; and this is because digital technology was explicitly geared towards the transfer of material record on earlier formats, this resale strategy was a central element in its sales pitch</p>
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		<title>By: LondonLee</title>
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		<dc:creator>LondonLee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it was the French who played the major role in giving critical respect to old Hollywood movies. 

This is where dates and generational labels start to mean nothing, if you could be a Boomer born as late as 1964 (are you sure about that?) that would mean &lt;I&gt;I'm&lt;/I&gt; one and all the punks were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it was the French who played the major role in giving critical respect to old Hollywood movies. </p>
<p>This is where dates and generational labels start to mean nothing, if you could be a Boomer born as late as 1964 (are you sure about that?) that would mean <i>I&#8217;m</i> one and all the punks were.</p>
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		<title>By: koganbot</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/04/art-garfunkel-i-only-have-eyes-for-you/#comment-405975</link>
		<dc:creator>koganbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for context. There's my own peculiar listening. I managed to hear Disco Tex &#38; The Sex-O-Lettes in '75 but not Gloria Gaynor or Donna Summer. And I didn't hear this track, which only made it to number 18 in the U.S. I think I saw the Heartbreakers sometime around then, though maybe that was a year later. Saw Television a year earlier. I was reading Hawthorne and Faulkner and Roger Williams and Nietzsche and thinking about Superwords. I think I was trying to convince myself that Kiss were better than they actually were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for context. There&#8217;s my own peculiar listening. I managed to hear Disco Tex &amp; The Sex-O-Lettes in &#8216;75 but not Gloria Gaynor or Donna Summer. And I didn&#8217;t hear this track, which only made it to number 18 in the U.S. I think I saw the Heartbreakers sometime around then, though maybe that was a year later. Saw Television a year earlier. I was reading Hawthorne and Faulkner and Roger Williams and Nietzsche and thinking about Superwords. I think I was trying to convince myself that Kiss were better than they actually were.</p>
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		<title>By: koganbot</title>
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		<dc:creator>koganbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw, until this morning I'd had no idea that there ever was any version of this song other than the Flamingos', which I suppose is some kind of support for the idea that the Flamingos' version is canonical among people born in the U.S. smack dab in the middle of the baby boom (me, b. 1954). That said, and thinking that Jonathan is more or less on the right track, I don't think "baby boom" is that useful a shorthand for what he's trying to say - at any rate, it needs elaboration. For one thing, if you take the baby boom (people born between 1946 and 1964), then it's likely that people born in 1947 will have more of an impact as a whole than people born in 1942, and people born in 1963 will have more impact as a whole than people born in 1968, simply because there are more of them. But I'd hardly expect people born in 1963 to have more in common with people born in 1947 than with people born in 1968 - in fact, I'd expect the opposite.

And music itself is its own story, not in sync with the other arts. You don't get "nothing exists before 1956 (or '51 or '48)" in movies or novels. In fact, it was the college film societies in the late '60s and throughout the '70s that played a huge role in the critical upgrading of the old Hollywood films, putting &lt;i&gt;Casablanca&lt;/i&gt; and the Marx Brothers into the top echelon and getting the average student to take gangster films and screwball comedies seriously. Music is its strange story here: for better or worse you get the overthrow of classical music as the music of the intelligentsia, and you for a while you do get "the world begins in February 1964 and rock 'n' roll (beginning with Orioles in '48 or 'Rocket 88' in '51 or Elvis in '54 or '56) is just precursor, and anything else is ancien regime. And strangely, as for the (supposedly) sure-thing canonized Great Artists, the Beatles-Stones-Dylan plus whoever you add on, they don't cover a swath of 18 years as you'd expect but come all concentrated in the mid to late '60s. And even though near contemporaries (and even predecessors) like Carole King and Simon &#38; Garfunkel and Fleetwood Mac and Elton John far outsell them in the '70s (and it's boomers whom they're selling &lt;i&gt;to&lt;/i&gt;) those performers don't get the kneejerk citation as "Great Artists" that the Beatles do. And the critics and musicians who get the process going whereby now it's standard to look beyond the rock canon to years before and genres despised were baby boomers themselves. (The stereotyped baby boom culture wasn't made by baby boomers themselves, just consumed by them. Not baby boomers: Dylan, Lennon, Jagger. Baby boomers: Madonna, Michael Jackson, Sonic Youth.) And presumably a lot of the people buying Basie and Armstrong box sets these days were born in the baby boom. So size of the demographic and its supposed self-centeredness aren't in themselves enough to tell what's going on. There was something about the circumstances and the '60s hero story that was compelling, too, and probably remains so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw, until this morning I&#8217;d had no idea that there ever was any version of this song other than the Flamingos&#8217;, which I suppose is some kind of support for the idea that the Flamingos&#8217; version is canonical among people born in the U.S. smack dab in the middle of the baby boom (me, b. 1954). That said, and thinking that Jonathan is more or less on the right track, I don&#8217;t think &#8220;baby boom&#8221; is that useful a shorthand for what he&#8217;s trying to say - at any rate, it needs elaboration. For one thing, if you take the baby boom (people born between 1946 and 1964), then it&#8217;s likely that people born in 1947 will have more of an impact as a whole than people born in 1942, and people born in 1963 will have more impact as a whole than people born in 1968, simply because there are more of them. But I&#8217;d hardly expect people born in 1963 to have more in common with people born in 1947 than with people born in 1968 - in fact, I&#8217;d expect the opposite.</p>
<p>And music itself is its own story, not in sync with the other arts. You don&#8217;t get &#8220;nothing exists before 1956 (or &#8216;51 or &#8216;48)&#8221; in movies or novels. In fact, it was the college film societies in the late &#8217;60s and throughout the &#8217;70s that played a huge role in the critical upgrading of the old Hollywood films, putting <i>Casablanca</i> and the Marx Brothers into the top echelon and getting the average student to take gangster films and screwball comedies seriously. Music is its strange story here: for better or worse you get the overthrow of classical music as the music of the intelligentsia, and you for a while you do get &#8220;the world begins in February 1964 and rock &#8216;n&#8217; roll (beginning with Orioles in &#8216;48 or &#8216;Rocket 88&#8242; in &#8216;51 or Elvis in &#8216;54 or &#8216;56) is just precursor, and anything else is ancien regime. And strangely, as for the (supposedly) sure-thing canonized Great Artists, the Beatles-Stones-Dylan plus whoever you add on, they don&#8217;t cover a swath of 18 years as you&#8217;d expect but come all concentrated in the mid to late &#8217;60s. And even though near contemporaries (and even predecessors) like Carole King and Simon &amp; Garfunkel and Fleetwood Mac and Elton John far outsell them in the &#8217;70s (and it&#8217;s boomers whom they&#8217;re selling <i>to</i>) those performers don&#8217;t get the kneejerk citation as &#8220;Great Artists&#8221; that the Beatles do. And the critics and musicians who get the process going whereby now it&#8217;s standard to look beyond the rock canon to years before and genres despised were baby boomers themselves. (The stereotyped baby boom culture wasn&#8217;t made by baby boomers themselves, just consumed by them. Not baby boomers: Dylan, Lennon, Jagger. Baby boomers: Madonna, Michael Jackson, Sonic Youth.) And presumably a lot of the people buying Basie and Armstrong box sets these days were born in the baby boom. So size of the demographic and its supposed self-centeredness aren&#8217;t in themselves enough to tell what&#8217;s going on. There was something about the circumstances and the &#8217;60s hero story that was compelling, too, and probably remains so.</p>
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