Comments on: Europop 2008: Group A – Turkey 1 Portugal 2 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal Lollards in the high church of low culture Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:45:22 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: hepsici ?uheda https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/comment-page-1#comment-1120723 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:45:22 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/#comment-1120723 gurup hepsi sizi cok seviyorum ama ke?ke gülçin böyle bi?e yapmasayd? neden arkada?lar?n? yüz üstü birakt?k? anlamad?m ama neyse bö?verin gülçini hepsi sizi ben hale cok seviyorum özelike de eren ve cemre yi cokk seviyorumm onlara selam gönderiyorum sizi seviyorum gurup hepsii

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By: Kat but logged out innit https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/comment-page-1#comment-398763 Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:50:37 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/#comment-398763 The Turks remain unbeaten in spirit!

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By: Steve Mannion https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/comment-page-1#comment-398712 Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:35:53 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/#comment-398712 Interesting result given that the Turkish entry got more downloads.

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By: CarsmileSteve https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/comment-page-1#comment-398698 Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:21:57 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/#comment-398698 well well well brian, they’ll be singing and dacing on the streets of lisbon tonight, i think we all thought that was heading for a draw…

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By: Tom https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/comment-page-1#comment-398692 Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:35:43 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/#comment-398692 Narrow win for Portugal!

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By: Tom https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/comment-page-1#comment-396902 Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:40:24 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/#comment-396902 BTW sorry if my earlier comment came off as brisk – I was in a total panic over impending conference doom!

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By: Tom https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/comment-page-1#comment-396897 Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:21:14 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/#comment-396897 I think it should be one person one vote! Just cos it’s unfair on the people who don’t have two logins/computers (especially if they’re playing!)

I will confess I have indeed voted twice both times though, once for each track. The first time was to check both options were working (as one side had a rather dramatic lead), and the second time was cos I changed my mind but had already voted, so I ‘revoked’ my vote as it were. (Is there a way to change your mind? The lesson is: don’t rush to judgement)

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By: SteveM https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/comment-page-1#comment-396847 Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:17:57 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/#comment-396847 so if i vote for my tracks both at work and at home, you will know eh? unless i log out?

just askin like…

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By: admin https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/comment-page-1#comment-396838 Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:02:04 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/#comment-396838 Kat – don’t worry – you won’t have voted twice.

the options are to ID people by IP/FTcookie or by username. we’re not yet going to insist on logging in to vote, so IP/cookie it is. as it stands duplicate votes are not terribly numerous.

I can exclusively reveal that a well known FT contributor has voted twice on one poll – once for each act. EH??

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By: Kat https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/comment-page-1#comment-396835 Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:47:06 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/#comment-396835 Er I may have voted twice in the first game when the poll wasn’t working? I thought it had been reset though :(

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By: SteveM https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/comment-page-1#comment-396786 Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:04:42 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/#comment-396786 woah, if they’re doing it from different computers/IPs how do the polls tell you the same person has voted twice?

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By: CarsmileSteve https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/comment-page-1#comment-396768 Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:58:01 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/#comment-396768 NOT THAT IT WAS ME BUT, what’s wrong with that? if people have multiple computers why not? also are the data you are using IP addresses, cos that’s a bit harsh on participants who happen to live in the same house innit…

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By: Matt DC https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/comment-page-1#comment-396752 Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:07:39 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/#comment-396752 DOPING SCANDAL!

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By: Tom https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/comment-page-1#comment-396684 Wed, 19 Mar 2008 07:15:52 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/#comment-396684 Yes I did!

At the MRS conference today (and yesterday) so not online.

A check of the polls suggests multiple voting by some people, including at least one actual player. Don’t do this pls!

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By: SteveM https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/comment-page-1#comment-396486 Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:41:02 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/#comment-396486 ATTN Tom let me know that you got my replacement track for Thursday’s game thanks

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By: SteveM https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/comment-page-1#comment-396485 Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:40:20 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/#comment-396485 ATTn Tom let me know you got my replacement track for Thursday’s game thanks

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By: CarsmileSteve https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/comment-page-1#comment-396464 Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:12:48 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/#comment-396464 it will be interesting to see if the vocal commenters are representing the views of the “masses”, and if number of listens reflects the votes as well…

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By: Matt DC https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/comment-page-1#comment-396448 Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:26:43 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/#comment-396448 This one is going to go down to the wire isn’t it?

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By: CarsmileSteve https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/comment-page-1#comment-396311 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:56:49 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/#comment-396311 my god, who’s that coming up the tunnel, it’s EUSABIO! he’s back to save c ronaldo from another blubbing exit. the turkish players look confused, not expecting such silky smooth play from what they may have thought was a team in disarray. their functional play can’t match this surprise package…

we’ll have to see where the Special One takes them after this, but this is a good opening salvo.

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By: Matt DC https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/comment-page-1#comment-396299 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:13:44 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/#comment-396299 First shock of the tournament for me. Portugal’s managerless rabble resist the temptation to go all out and kick the opposition, and instead play their natural game, deft of touch and vision, good approach play, nice, sensible and unhurried, with some understated flair upfront.

By contrast, I’m not sure the much-fancied Turkey team ever takes off – they’ve taken a leaf from US tactics and I can see what they’re trying to do, but lack that moment of inspiration and the final ball isn’t really there either.

VERDICT – triumph over adversity for the Portuguese.

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By: Lex https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/comment-page-1#comment-396269 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:22:20 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/#comment-396269 The Madredeus track is pretty beautiful; very evocative and sensual. And as Pete says it makes me want to crack open the port (AUTOMATIC WIN).

I like what the Turkish girls are aiming for, not sure if they succeed though: it’s a bit too cheap and cheerful to really work as r&b.

Much better than the last lot though!

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By: koganbot https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/comment-page-1#comment-396257 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:20:55 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/#comment-396257 Oh man, this may be the best match of any FT/Poptimist orgafun ever!

Grup Hepsi: Delicious violins, sly and passionate vocals, catchiness, dance beats, the works. As Grand Funk would say, she has the whole show and that’s a natural fact.

Madredeus: Full florid lips, beautiful guitar strums, gentle rhythms with a nice sway but that never fail to walk you home. Very nice.

My vote went to Grup Hepsi, but there are not many others who’d have beaten this Madredeus track.

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By: SteveM https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/comment-page-1#comment-396248 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 18:41:14 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/#comment-396248 Turks get my vote by stylistic default if nothing else.

Meanwhile, one of the Austrian team’s most promising young strikers has been withdrawn from the squad after clarification of their birthplace rendered them ineligible to play. It is a blow for the co-hosts so close to their opening game although the coach is adamant that neither squad morale nor gameplan will be significantly affected. “If anything it eases my selection headache!” piped their coach optimistically.

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By: Tom https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/comment-page-1#comment-396218 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:23:43 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/#comment-396218 I found it a close decision – I did prefer Grup Hepsi, thanks to the singer who initially seemed raw but improved as the track progressed. But I think the Portugese might well grab a much-needed point here.

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By: Pete https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/comment-page-1#comment-396215 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:15:50 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/#comment-396215 I would say the favourites in this one would appear to be Grup Hepsi, but actually the Portuguese track takes me back to sitting in a smoky bar in Porto sipping port,. Oh hold on, that would be Faith No More!

Difficult to compare like to like, but found the Grup Hepsi a little blander than I expected from Turkey’s usual strong fielding. Could be a victory for the weaker underdog.

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By: Matt DC https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/comment-page-1#comment-396214 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:11:11 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/03/europop-2008-group-a-turkey-v-portugal/#comment-396214 If I weren’t playing I’d be putting a tenner on Portugal to win right now.

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