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	<title>Comments on: MUD - &#8220;Lonely This Christmas&#8221;</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 08:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: intothefireuk</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/mud-lonely-this-christmas/#comment-398192</link>
		<dc:creator>intothefireuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 22:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems mightily odd to be commenting on (&#38; listening to) a Christmas song out of the season of goodwill but I will try my best &#38; suffer for the cause. This song resonates with me primarily because it soundtracked one of my first  'embarrassing moments with members of the opposite sex' type incidents. It was the annual school Xmas disco 1974 &#38; having spent most of the evening standing with my mates trying to look cool and eyeing up the talent I had taken the plunge and managed to grab a particularly foxy chick (using the parlance of the time), somewhat suprisingly, for the last dance. Enter the cruel &#38; mocking tones of Les Gray whereupon I decided, in my wisdom, to sing-a-long with the record. Now I'm not saying I can't sing - that wasn't the problem - I just wasn't aware that you didn't do that cos it's extremely naff &#38; uncool. It wasn't until the song was pretty much through that I realised I wasn't getting the favoured response I had hoped for and my singing kind of trailed off - leaving, as the record ended, an uneasy silence. A tumbleweed moment followed after which I hastily retreated to the comfort of the school bar. Needless to say nothing further occured between us but the young lady in question, bless her, did at least have the grace not to mention it again. All that aside, I loved Mud and at this stage they could pretty much do no wrong. This was another fine glam era Xmas song which, when I'm listening properly (ie not in a shop !- can't we go back to muzak ?) I still enjoy. You don't see too many bands use the dummy routine nowadays do you ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems mightily odd to be commenting on (&amp; listening to) a Christmas song out of the season of goodwill but I will try my best &amp; suffer for the cause. This song resonates with me primarily because it soundtracked one of my first  &#8216;embarrassing moments with members of the opposite sex&#8217; type incidents. It was the annual school Xmas disco 1974 &amp; having spent most of the evening standing with my mates trying to look cool and eyeing up the talent I had taken the plunge and managed to grab a particularly foxy chick (using the parlance of the time), somewhat suprisingly, for the last dance. Enter the cruel &amp; mocking tones of Les Gray whereupon I decided, in my wisdom, to sing-a-long with the record. Now I&#8217;m not saying I can&#8217;t sing - that wasn&#8217;t the problem - I just wasn&#8217;t aware that you didn&#8217;t do that cos it&#8217;s extremely naff &amp; uncool. It wasn&#8217;t until the song was pretty much through that I realised I wasn&#8217;t getting the favoured response I had hoped for and my singing kind of trailed off - leaving, as the record ended, an uneasy silence. A tumbleweed moment followed after which I hastily retreated to the comfort of the school bar. Needless to say nothing further occured between us but the young lady in question, bless her, did at least have the grace not to mention it again. All that aside, I loved Mud and at this stage they could pretty much do no wrong. This was another fine glam era Xmas song which, when I&#8217;m listening properly (ie not in a shop !- can&#8217;t we go back to muzak ?) I still enjoy. You don&#8217;t see too many bands use the dummy routine nowadays do you ?</p>
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		<title>By: Waldo</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/mud-lonely-this-christmas/#comment-363313</link>
		<dc:creator>Waldo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 15:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uncle Ray really pushed his luck with that one, didn't he? Goodbye Crimbo tucker. Mind you, bringing in the sprogs for the final chorus was not new. I'm not inviting an exhaustive list but obviously Roy Wood springs to mind a year earlier. But whereas I would gladly sing along with Roy's kids, I would hand Gilbert's little bastards over to King Herod in the blink of an eye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uncle Ray really pushed his luck with that one, didn&#8217;t he? Goodbye Crimbo tucker. Mind you, bringing in the sprogs for the final chorus was not new. I&#8217;m not inviting an exhaustive list but obviously Roy Wood springs to mind a year earlier. But whereas I would gladly sing along with Roy&#8217;s kids, I would hand Gilbert&#8217;s little bastards over to King Herod in the blink of an eye.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff w</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/mud-lonely-this-christmas/#comment-363299</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 15:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the 7" of that one! (OK I bought it at a record fair not long ago.  But still.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the 7&#8243; of that one! (OK I bought it at a record fair not long ago.  But still.)</p>
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		<title>By: Marcello Carlin</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/mud-lonely-this-christmas/#comment-363133</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcello Carlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 08:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bringing up the rear in the 1974 Xmas singles foray was Gilbert O'Sullivan's "Christmas Song" which mainly consisted of the sentiment "I'm not dreaming of a white Christmas" and whose bridge included the immortal non-rhyme "And let us hope that very soon/The peace you seek will then resume."  A children's choir comes in for the last chorus.  Bless him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bringing up the rear in the 1974 Xmas singles foray was Gilbert O&#8217;Sullivan&#8217;s &#8220;Christmas Song&#8221; which mainly consisted of the sentiment &#8220;I&#8217;m not dreaming of a white Christmas&#8221; and whose bridge included the immortal non-rhyme &#8220;And let us hope that very soon/The peace you seek will then resume.&#8221;  A children&#8217;s choir comes in for the last chorus.  Bless him.</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Mod</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/mud-lonely-this-christmas/#comment-362868</link>
		<dc:creator>Doctor Mod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 21:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One wasn't lonely this Christmas in the slightest and one has never heard this song, but surely the best lonely Christmas song (aside from Elvis's "Blue Christmas") is Darlene Love's "Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)" from the Phil Spector Christmas album.  I finally broke down and bought a (used) copy this year.  (Disdain for Spector as a person always conflicts with admiration for Spector the producer.)  Before I left on my holiday adventures, I burned a CD copy for my hairdresser.  He couldn't have been more thrilled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One wasn&#8217;t lonely this Christmas in the slightest and one has never heard this song, but surely the best lonely Christmas song (aside from Elvis&#8217;s &#8220;Blue Christmas&#8221;) is Darlene Love&#8217;s &#8220;Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)&#8221; from the Phil Spector Christmas album.  I finally broke down and bought a (used) copy this year.  (Disdain for Spector as a person always conflicts with admiration for Spector the producer.)  Before I left on my holiday adventures, I burned a CD copy for my hairdresser.  He couldn&#8217;t have been more thrilled.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Barbour</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/mud-lonely-this-christmas/#comment-362560</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Barbour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 10:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my fave Xmas records, because whether you identify with the narrative of the song or not it encapsulates the reality of the run up to Christmas (stressful, probably not snowing but cold and usually wet, carrying on with everyday life as well) far better than the celebratory Slade, Wizzard, Shaky etc, etc.  See also Lennon, Greg Lake and Jona Lewie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my fave Xmas records, because whether you identify with the narrative of the song or not it encapsulates the reality of the run up to Christmas (stressful, probably not snowing but cold and usually wet, carrying on with everyday life as well) far better than the celebratory Slade, Wizzard, Shaky etc, etc.  See also Lennon, Greg Lake and Jona Lewie.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcello Carlin</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/mud-lonely-this-christmas/#comment-361006</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcello Carlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 12:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, &lt;i&gt;TOTP&lt;/i&gt; changed over to the 40 in May '78 at the same time.

AFAIK that info isn't available online or in print.  It would be nice if someone could compile it in book form since on a 1974 level alone it would bring whole shoals of other records into the reckoning, from Junior Byles' "Curly Locks" to John Cale's "The Man Who Couldn't Afford To Orgy."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, <i>TOTP</i> changed over to the 40 in May &#8216;78 at the same time.</p>
<p>AFAIK that info isn&#8217;t available online or in print.  It would be nice if someone could compile it in book form since on a 1974 level alone it would bring whole shoals of other records into the reckoning, from Junior Byles&#8217; &#8220;Curly Locks&#8221; to John Cale&#8217;s &#8220;The Man Who Couldn&#8217;t Afford To Orgy.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Monitor</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/mud-lonely-this-christmas/#comment-361001</link>
		<dc:creator>Monitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 12:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has any enterprising bedroom fanatic managed to get that valuable information into a website anywhere, do you know? (Or is it available in book-form?)

I seem to recall Top of the Pops still only showing the top 30 until some point in the 80s maybe when they went up to 40? Is that right?recollection</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has any enterprising bedroom fanatic managed to get that valuable information into a website anywhere, do you know? (Or is it available in book-form?)</p>
<p>I seem to recall Top of the Pops still only showing the top 30 until some point in the 80s maybe when they went up to 40? Is that right?recollection</p>
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		<title>By: Marcello Carlin</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/mud-lonely-this-christmas/#comment-360898</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcello Carlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 08:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The official "industry chart" at the time was a Top 50, though Radio 1 only used the Top 30 - they didn't expand to 40 until May 1978 when the full chart was lengthened to a Top 75.  If you subscribed to Music Week, though (as my dad did), you were also supplied with an unfeasibly long "bubbling under" list which basically comprised all the climbers between 51-100.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The official &#8220;industry chart&#8221; at the time was a Top 50, though Radio 1 only used the Top 30 - they didn&#8217;t expand to 40 until May 1978 when the full chart was lengthened to a Top 75.  If you subscribed to Music Week, though (as my dad did), you were also supplied with an unfeasibly long &#8220;bubbling under&#8221; list which basically comprised all the climbers between 51-100.</p>
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		<title>By: Monitor</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/mud-lonely-this-christmas/#comment-360682</link>
		<dc:creator>Monitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 23:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not sure if any more extensive chart than the top 40 was kept at this time; if not, Lonely This Christmas was almost the number 1 that travelled the furthest that year, debuting at 40 two weeks earlier.

The most arduous climb perhaps goes to The New Seekers, a year earlier, who also debuted at 40 but took 5 weeks to crawl to the top.

Too much time on my hands? Yessiree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure if any more extensive chart than the top 40 was kept at this time; if not, Lonely This Christmas was almost the number 1 that travelled the furthest that year, debuting at 40 two weeks earlier.</p>
<p>The most arduous climb perhaps goes to The New Seekers, a year earlier, who also debuted at 40 but took 5 weeks to crawl to the top.</p>
<p>Too much time on my hands? Yessiree.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcello Carlin</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/mud-lonely-this-christmas/#comment-360465</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcello Carlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 1974 I thought Mud were hilariously great and their &lt;i&gt;TOTP&lt;/i&gt; "Lonely This Christmas" routine side-splitting.

Then I heard it again, all over the place, in Christmas 2001 and suddenly I loathed and despised them for making a joke out of it since I was living (if you could call it "living") through it.

These days I think it was a double bluff; the comedy used as a mask for an extremely grim and bleak song ("when &lt;i&gt;we&lt;/i&gt; were here").

Elvis, incidentally, was also riding high in the charts at the same time with his lachrymose rendition of the Martin/Coulter weepie "My Boy" though really the song &lt;i&gt;needs&lt;/i&gt; Richard Harris' deliberate overkill.

Showaddywaddy and Shaky I'll talk about when we come to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 1974 I thought Mud were hilariously great and their <i>TOTP</i> &#8220;Lonely This Christmas&#8221; routine side-splitting.</p>
<p>Then I heard it again, all over the place, in Christmas 2001 and suddenly I loathed and despised them for making a joke out of it since I was living (if you could call it &#8220;living&#8221;) through it.</p>
<p>These days I think it was a double bluff; the comedy used as a mask for an extremely grim and bleak song (&#8221;when <i>we</i> were here&#8221;).</p>
<p>Elvis, incidentally, was also riding high in the charts at the same time with his lachrymose rendition of the Martin/Coulter weepie &#8220;My Boy&#8221; though really the song <i>needs</i> Richard Harris&#8217; deliberate overkill.</p>
<p>Showaddywaddy and Shaky I&#8217;ll talk about when we come to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Skidmore</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/mud-lonely-this-christmas/#comment-359963</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Skidmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 14:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Persuasions hardly count as 'latter day' doowop, since they started in the very early '60s, 1962 I think, though their first recordings (yes, championed by Zappa) are rather later. They are still going. Also, I wouldn't call them doowop - they are an a cappella group, performing material in a gospel/soul vein. Their singer, Jerry Lawson (who left them fairly recently, sadly) is a real favourite of mine. Search out 'Building A House' (on the album Sincerely, I think) to sample them at their best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Persuasions hardly count as &#8216;latter day&#8217; doowop, since they started in the very early &#8217;60s, 1962 I think, though their first recordings (yes, championed by Zappa) are rather later. They are still going. Also, I wouldn&#8217;t call them doowop - they are an a cappella group, performing material in a gospel/soul vein. Their singer, Jerry Lawson (who left them fairly recently, sadly) is a real favourite of mine. Search out &#8216;Building A House&#8217; (on the album Sincerely, I think) to sample them at their best.</p>
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		<title>By: Erithian</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/mud-lonely-this-christmas/#comment-359932</link>
		<dc:creator>Erithian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 12:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shakin’ Stevens was so long paying his dues before becoming a pop star that he really predates the first UK RnR revival wave, let alone the second.  Shakin’ Stevens and the Sunsets started out in the 60s!

“Lonely This Christmas” for me is a classic Christmas song as it works on a number of levels.  There’s a line in “The History Boys” that I can’t quite remember – no doubt someone can help – about schoolboys being too young to appreciate some of the emotions portrayed in literature.  Similarly, at age 12 I hadn’t loved and lost anyone, hadn’t lost a close family member and had no reference point to the subject of the song, but still found it moving and still do now that I’ve had those experiences.  This from a band who performed it on TOTP with Les Gray singing to a ventriloquist’s dummy of himself while other band members pour washing powder over him from the top of a stepladder.  To be able to play it for laughs and still move people, that’s a rare thing.

BTW, not only did it deny “Wombling Merry Christmas” top slot, it denied Bachman Turner Overdrive’s poptastic meisterwerk its due recognition as well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shakin’ Stevens was so long paying his dues before becoming a pop star that he really predates the first UK RnR revival wave, let alone the second.  Shakin’ Stevens and the Sunsets started out in the 60s!</p>
<p>“Lonely This Christmas” for me is a classic Christmas song as it works on a number of levels.  There’s a line in “The History Boys” that I can’t quite remember – no doubt someone can help – about schoolboys being too young to appreciate some of the emotions portrayed in literature.  Similarly, at age 12 I hadn’t loved and lost anyone, hadn’t lost a close family member and had no reference point to the subject of the song, but still found it moving and still do now that I’ve had those experiences.  This from a band who performed it on TOTP with Les Gray singing to a ventriloquist’s dummy of himself while other band members pour washing powder over him from the top of a stepladder.  To be able to play it for laughs and still move people, that’s a rare thing.</p>
<p>BTW, not only did it deny “Wombling Merry Christmas” top slot, it denied Bachman Turner Overdrive’s poptastic meisterwerk its due recognition as well!</p>
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		<title>By: pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</title>
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		<dc:creator>pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 13:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>geir actually i think all three of the 50s revivals i suggested are internally heterogenous (how much does lennon belong alongside mud?): they weren't movements so much as (er) distributed tendencies towards a mode of nostalgia... what i do think is that there are interestingly sharp breaks between the three modes; so that the nostalgia mode of 72-76 inflects very differently from the nostalgia mode of 89-83

(also: yes, i think shakin stevens is -- or feels -- curiously anomalous whoever you line him up against*... essentially he's a down-the-line pub-rock tribute artist who was also a fairly effective "authentic" pop-star, by which i mean engagingly down-to-earth man-of-the-people anti-glam... his version of escape-into-the-past is a sort of return-to-antiromantic-unpretension) (*except paul young maybe?) 

(oops this is rather messin with marcello's NO SPOILERS dictum, isn't it?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>geir actually i think all three of the 50s revivals i suggested are internally heterogenous (how much does lennon belong alongside mud?): they weren&#8217;t movements so much as (er) distributed tendencies towards a mode of nostalgia&#8230; what i do think is that there are interestingly sharp breaks between the three modes; so that the nostalgia mode of 72-76 inflects very differently from the nostalgia mode of 89-83</p>
<p>(also: yes, i think shakin stevens is &#8212; or feels &#8212; curiously anomalous whoever you line him up against*&#8230; essentially he&#8217;s a down-the-line pub-rock tribute artist who was also a fairly effective &#8220;authentic&#8221; pop-star, by which i mean engagingly down-to-earth man-of-the-people anti-glam&#8230; his version of escape-into-the-past is a sort of return-to-antiromantic-unpretension) (*except paul young maybe?) </p>
<p>(oops this is rather messin with marcello&#8217;s NO SPOILERS dictum, isn&#8217;t it?)</p>
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		<title>By: Geir H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geir H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To lord sukråt about the postpunk rock'n'roll revival: I am unsure whether it is easy lumping Shakin' Stevens and Stray Cats in the same box at all. But we may get back to that when Tom does his piece on "This Ole House" in a couple of years or something :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To lord sukråt about the postpunk rock&#8217;n'roll revival: I am unsure whether it is easy lumping Shakin&#8217; Stevens and Stray Cats in the same box at all. But we may get back to that when Tom does his piece on &#8220;This Ole House&#8221; in a couple of years or something :)</p>
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		<title>By: a logged out p^nk s lord sukråt wötsit</title>
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		<dc:creator>a logged out p^nk s lord sukråt wötsit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 15:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think it's basically variable-to-poor at best, but the persuasions are worth hunting down -- latterday doowoppers of gorgeous sound, patroned i think by zappa who genuinely loved doowop (they may still be active in fact) 

i was always heartened by that joint project showaddywaddy did with einsturzende neubauten, but i can't recall if anything lasting came of it 

(i am on an anti-google day)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think it&#8217;s basically variable-to-poor at best, but the persuasions are worth hunting down &#8212; latterday doowoppers of gorgeous sound, patroned i think by zappa who genuinely loved doowop (they may still be active in fact) </p>
<p>i was always heartened by that joint project showaddywaddy did with einsturzende neubauten, but i can&#8217;t recall if anything lasting came of it </p>
<p>(i am on an anti-google day)</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Smart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy Smart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 15:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was surprised to discover how much I enjoyed Showaddywaddy's 'Hey Mr. Christmas' on the Xmas Top of the Pops 2. Maybe I should investigate this 70s mock'n'roll genre further... On the other hand, perhaps life is too short! Am I missing out on anything good?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was surprised to discover how much I enjoyed Showaddywaddy&#8217;s &#8216;Hey Mr. Christmas&#8217; on the Xmas Top of the Pops 2. Maybe I should investigate this 70s mock&#8217;n'roll genre further&#8230; On the other hand, perhaps life is too short! Am I missing out on anything good?</p>
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		<title>By: a logged out p^nk s lord sukråt wötsit</title>
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		<dc:creator>a logged out p^nk s lord sukråt wötsit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 14:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there were three separate waves of 50s revival, really -- one in the US in the late 60s (shananana at woodstock and zappa's ruben and the jets -- probably elvis's re-invention/re-emergence in 68 was a spur, also); two in the uk, effectively pre and post-punk (lennon's 1975 solo roots-revisit of his own rock'n'roll youth was a response to the first more than an inspiration)

(the disconnect between the pre and post punk waves can be judged from the fact that the successful pre-punk 50s-revivalists got NO secondary boost at at all from the post-punk burst of interest...)

glam very specifically and deliberately broadened the event-horizon of pop backwards beyond the amnesia of the beatles-big-bang -- like uk pop art (in particular richard hamilton* and peter blake) it used the matter of earlier unreflective fan-material as its subject, playing off the instant response of the listener against the knowing response of the connoisseur, or something like that; it was pop with a sense of history, which is unusual and quite daring (and tricky to sustain)

*hamilton was bryan ferry's mentor, and ferry took the concept of historical awareness back to cole porter, which meant taking it a long way beyond the amnesia of the ELVIS-big-bang -- of course he also made everything sound like bryan ferry, which is a problem or a triumph (yr mileage may vary) 

the post-punk 50s revival was also much more self-consciously subcultural -- kind of "we are we are we the mods" except for being teds...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there were three separate waves of 50s revival, really &#8212; one in the US in the late 60s (shananana at woodstock and zappa&#8217;s ruben and the jets &#8212; probably elvis&#8217;s re-invention/re-emergence in 68 was a spur, also); two in the uk, effectively pre and post-punk (lennon&#8217;s 1975 solo roots-revisit of his own rock&#8217;n'roll youth was a response to the first more than an inspiration)</p>
<p>(the disconnect between the pre and post punk waves can be judged from the fact that the successful pre-punk 50s-revivalists got NO secondary boost at at all from the post-punk burst of interest&#8230;)</p>
<p>glam very specifically and deliberately broadened the event-horizon of pop backwards beyond the amnesia of the beatles-big-bang &#8212; like uk pop art (in particular richard hamilton* and peter blake) it used the matter of earlier unreflective fan-material as its subject, playing off the instant response of the listener against the knowing response of the connoisseur, or something like that; it was pop with a sense of history, which is unusual and quite daring (and tricky to sustain)</p>
<p>*hamilton was bryan ferry&#8217;s mentor, and ferry took the concept of historical awareness back to cole porter, which meant taking it a long way beyond the amnesia of the ELVIS-big-bang &#8212; of course he also made everything sound like bryan ferry, which is a problem or a triumph (yr mileage may vary) </p>
<p>the post-punk 50s revival was also much more self-consciously subcultural &#8212; kind of &#8220;we are we are we the mods&#8221; except for being teds&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Geir H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geir H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 00:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the reason is another one: Several of those Christmas songs are from the glam era, when making Christmas songs was kind of trendy and all of the big acts (more or less) did it. At the same time, there was also a nostalgia wave, maybe because the kids who grew up in the 70s were listening to their parents' 50s rock'n'roll records, I dunno. Several of the most popular "boy bands" of the early 70s relied heavily on covers of pre-Beatles material. Donny Osmond, for instance - I think virtually all of his solo singles were 50s covers. 

Later you would also have acts such as Darts and Showaddywaddy, ending up with Stray Cats and Shakin' Stevens in the early 80s before people were definitely finished with the 50s once and for all.

That being said, "Lonely This Christmas" has more in common with Elvis' early 60s MOR incarnation than his 50s rock'n'roll one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the reason is another one: Several of those Christmas songs are from the glam era, when making Christmas songs was kind of trendy and all of the big acts (more or less) did it. At the same time, there was also a nostalgia wave, maybe because the kids who grew up in the 70s were listening to their parents&#8217; 50s rock&#8217;n'roll records, I dunno. Several of the most popular &#8220;boy bands&#8221; of the early 70s relied heavily on covers of pre-Beatles material. Donny Osmond, for instance - I think virtually all of his solo singles were 50s covers. </p>
<p>Later you would also have acts such as Darts and Showaddywaddy, ending up with Stray Cats and Shakin&#8217; Stevens in the early 80s before people were definitely finished with the 50s once and for all.</p>
<p>That being said, &#8220;Lonely This Christmas&#8221; has more in common with Elvis&#8217; early 60s MOR incarnation than his 50s rock&#8217;n'roll one.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/mud-lonely-this-christmas/#comment-357685</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 23:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason why many 70's and 80's xmas songs have a rock n roll sound has to do with appeal, at the time Rock n roll appealed to the broadest range of age groups. Now we just have bloody X-factor and what a pile o shite it is too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason why many 70&#8217;s and 80&#8217;s xmas songs have a rock n roll sound has to do with appeal, at the time Rock n roll appealed to the broadest range of age groups. Now we just have bloody X-factor and what a pile o shite it is too!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 23:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If i hear Do they know its Christmas or Last Christmas again i will poke my eardrums out with a yuletide log.. Naff.. Yea the sentiment of Band Aid is admirable but the song.. A bleeding dirge.. And as for Wham.. Get me a bucket.. My number one would have to be Driving home for Christmas.. Chris Rea's gravelly vocals counterpointed by the cheerful lyrics and upbeat arrangement.. You can imagine him sat in his car with a bootload of pressies, singing along with a big grin on his face.. Coming home after a long stint gigging europe.. It hits me in the right place.. the heart everytime i hear it. Nice one Chris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If i hear Do they know its Christmas or Last Christmas again i will poke my eardrums out with a yuletide log.. Naff.. Yea the sentiment of Band Aid is admirable but the song.. A bleeding dirge.. And as for Wham.. Get me a bucket.. My number one would have to be Driving home for Christmas.. Chris Rea&#8217;s gravelly vocals counterpointed by the cheerful lyrics and upbeat arrangement.. You can imagine him sat in his car with a bootload of pressies, singing along with a big grin on his face.. Coming home after a long stint gigging europe.. It hits me in the right place.. the heart everytime i hear it. Nice one Chris.</p>
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		<title>By: RobM</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/mud-lonely-this-christmas/#comment-357449</link>
		<dc:creator>RobM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 13:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the risk of diverting this into another territory, I disagree with Geir - "Keep on Wombling" the album is Mike Batt's finest moment, or 40 minutes I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the risk of diverting this into another territory, I disagree with Geir - &#8220;Keep on Wombling&#8221; the album is Mike Batt&#8217;s finest moment, or 40 minutes I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: .</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how come so many xmas tunes from the 70s and 80s have a 50s rock n roll sound to them?</description>
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		<title>By: Geir H</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/mud-lonely-this-christmas/#comment-356610</link>
		<dc:creator>Geir H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 22:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blame Canada!</description>
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		<title>By: Waldo</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/12/mud-lonely-this-christmas/#comment-356490</link>
		<dc:creator>Waldo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 15:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, dear God. A bloody miserable song as the Christmas number one?!... “I’m lonely this Christmas because my loved one has either buggered off or died?” Sorry, no. Just wrong.  Les Gray wasn’t a Canadian, was he? Still, he’s dead himself now, ain’t he? So he knows all about being “cold, cold, cold” now, don't he? Merry Christmas, Les…wherever you are.

Geir H (#7) - Yes, the fact that Wimbledon's finest were denied by this miserable garbage continues to rankle me into my maturity. Still, I guess nobody died...oh wait, Les Gray did, didn't he?!

May I just say to Erithian and Marcello that I am appending this on Boxing Day Afternoon and that I was driving around earlier today and swore blind that I more than one spotted "Boxing Day Bobby" going about his reprehensible but nevertheless profitable business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, dear God. A bloody miserable song as the Christmas number one?!&#8230; “I’m lonely this Christmas because my loved one has either buggered off or died?” Sorry, no. Just wrong.  Les Gray wasn’t a Canadian, was he? Still, he’s dead himself now, ain’t he? So he knows all about being “cold, cold, cold” now, don&#8217;t he? Merry Christmas, Les…wherever you are.</p>
<p>Geir H (#7) - Yes, the fact that Wimbledon&#8217;s finest were denied by this miserable garbage continues to rankle me into my maturity. Still, I guess nobody died&#8230;oh wait, Les Gray did, didn&#8217;t he?!</p>
<p>May I just say to Erithian and Marcello that I am appending this on Boxing Day Afternoon and that I was driving around earlier today and swore blind that I more than one spotted &#8220;Boxing Day Bobby&#8221; going about his reprehensible but nevertheless profitable business.</p>
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