Comments on: Redesigns On you Audience http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/05/redesigns-on-you-audience/ Lollards in the high church of low culture Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:54:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: CarsmileSteve http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/05/redesigns-on-you-audience/#comment-269749 CarsmileSteve Thu, 10 May 2007 21:49:22 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/05/redesigns-on-you-audience/#comment-269749 oh, it's always done that, my rss reader window is k-tiny and i've just got used to scrolling down when clicking through... oh, it’s always done that, my rss reader window is k-tiny and i’ve just got used to scrolling down when clicking through…

]]> By: Alan http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/05/redesigns-on-you-audience/#comment-269647 Alan Thu, 10 May 2007 16:27:58 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/05/redesigns-on-you-audience/#comment-269647 thanks for the spot! i did a quick check and yr right. IE is doing something wrong with the CSS of the category bar graphic. how long has it been doing that? i'm pretty sure it didn't do it when we changed designs last year - as i check on IE and always try varying widths to test things out. :-( will fiddle... thanks for the spot! i did a quick check and yr right. IE is doing something wrong with the CSS of the category bar graphic. how long has it been doing that? i’m pretty sure it didn’t do it when we changed designs last year – as i check on IE and always try varying widths to test things out.

:-(

will fiddle…

]]> By: Sarah http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/05/redesigns-on-you-audience/#comment-269640 Sarah Thu, 10 May 2007 16:10:52 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/05/redesigns-on-you-audience/#comment-269640 Speaking of which, admin I have an FT related note - if my IE (windows, v6) window is smaller than "a certain size" then FT goes completely b0rked with a huuuuge whitespace gap at the top, until you scroll down past the link section. A couple of times I had thought the entire site was down and clicked away before remembering to pg down a couple of times. Speaking of which, admin I have an FT related note – if my IE (windows, v6) window is smaller than “a certain size” then FT goes completely b0rked with a huuuuge whitespace gap at the top, until you scroll down past the link section. A couple of times I had thought the entire site was down and clicked away before remembering to pg down a couple of times.

]]> By: byebyepride http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/05/redesigns-on-you-audience/#comment-269593 byebyepride Thu, 10 May 2007 14:20:39 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/05/redesigns-on-you-audience/#comment-269593 that's correct. hic. that’s correct.

hic.

]]> By: Alan http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/05/redesigns-on-you-audience/#comment-269532 Alan Thu, 10 May 2007 12:17:59 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/05/redesigns-on-you-audience/#comment-269532 it is now called the scotch office, innit it is now called the scotch office, innit

]]> By: byebyepride http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/05/redesigns-on-you-audience/#comment-269526 byebyepride Thu, 10 May 2007 11:59:52 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/05/redesigns-on-you-audience/#comment-269526 Dear the guardian, next time you mention the Scottish Office on yr front page, please note that it doesn't exist anymore. kthxbye. yrs, a reader. Dear the guardian,
next time you mention the Scottish Office on yr front page, please note that it doesn’t exist anymore. kthxbye.
yrs, a reader.

]]> By: Pete Baran http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/05/redesigns-on-you-audience/#comment-269510 Pete Baran Thu, 10 May 2007 11:31:56 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/05/redesigns-on-you-audience/#comment-269510 Ah, "toggle window to fit" explains it. (BTW I took out Mac games joke bcs it did not belong here, and would make all your comments look weird - MAC USER alert). I noticed the fixed width thing, which onmy browser has a left margin and a right white margin. When I decrease window size the left margin goes first, and then the right, followed by pictures etc. I like it by the way Guardian journos watching (I know who you are...) Ah, “toggle window to fit” explains it. (BTW I took out Mac games joke bcs it did not belong here, and would make all your comments look weird – MAC USER alert).

I noticed the fixed width thing, which onmy browser has a left margin and a right white margin. When I decrease window size the left margin goes first, and then the right, followed by pictures etc.

I like it by the way Guardian journos watching (I know who you are…)

]]> By: Admin http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/05/redesigns-on-you-audience/#comment-269502 Admin Thu, 10 May 2007 11:03:12 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/05/redesigns-on-you-audience/#comment-269502 btw the guardian site is fixed-width. what happens with the mac browser is that there is a 'toggle window to fit' button (instead of take up all the screen button) and it fits the browser to fit the site. in my case my usual browser width is about that of the GU site anyway, not to get sidetracked. are we going to see wider fixed-width sites? GU site is still ~1024 btw the guardian site is fixed-width. what happens with the mac browser is that there is a ‘toggle window to fit’ button (instead of take up all the screen button) and it fits the browser to fit the site. in my case my usual browser width is about that of the GU site

anyway, not to get sidetracked. are we going to see wider fixed-width sites? GU site is still ~1024

]]> By: Admin http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/05/redesigns-on-you-audience/#comment-269501 Admin Thu, 10 May 2007 10:59:45 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/05/redesigns-on-you-audience/#comment-269501 "Why has no-one pointed out there aren’t any good games for the Mac" in the ads: because that wouldn't be a good way of selling macs in real life: ALL THE FUCKING TIME “Why has no-one pointed out there aren’t any good games for the Mac”

in the ads: because that wouldn’t be a good way of selling macs
in real life: ALL THE FUCKING TIME

]]> By: Pete Baran http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/05/redesigns-on-you-audience/#comment-269500 Pete Baran Thu, 10 May 2007 10:58:35 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/05/redesigns-on-you-audience/#comment-269500 "it just seems natural to have about a hand’s width of window" See if the Mitchell and Webb Mac / PC ads were dealing with issues like this, I'd be interested! Webb: Hello I'm a Mac Mitchell: And I'm a PC Webb: I like to have several windows open at once, all about a hands width. It just seems more natural. Mitchell: That's not natural at all, its more natural to use the entire screen. Webb: It doesn't seem natural to me. Mitchell: You're a computer: NOTHING ABOUT YOU IS NATURAL. Webb: That might be true, but you were caught with your hands down your pants in Peep Show the other week and therefore my argument wins because I'm cooler. Bing-bing-bing. “it just seems natural to have about a hand’s width of window”

See if the Mitchell and Webb Mac / PC ads were dealing with issues like this, I’d be interested!

Webb: Hello I’m a Mac
Mitchell: And I’m a PC
Webb: I like to have several windows open at once, all about a hands width. It just seems more natural.
Mitchell: That’s not natural at all, its more natural to use the entire screen.
Webb: It doesn’t seem natural to me.
Mitchell: You’re a computer: NOTHING ABOUT YOU IS NATURAL.
Webb: That might be true, but you were caught with your hands down your pants in Peep Show the other week and therefore my argument wins because I’m cooler.

Bing-bing-bing.

]]> By: Admin http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/05/redesigns-on-you-audience/#comment-269497 Admin Thu, 10 May 2007 10:53:29 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/05/redesigns-on-you-audience/#comment-269497 macs rarely do that 'one application takes over the full screen' thing that is the main way of working on a PC. it just seems natural to have about a hand's width of window. a lot of websites (FT isn't one) are fixed width anyway. fixed width sites are usually 800/1000 and must look awful full screen - lots of pointless blank/patterned border. Variable width probably look just hard to read as the text reflows. macs rarely do that ‘one application takes over the full screen’ thing that is the main way of working on a PC.

it just seems natural to have about a hand’s width of window.

a lot of websites (FT isn’t one) are fixed width anyway. fixed width sites are usually 800/1000 and must look awful full screen – lots of pointless blank/patterned border. Variable width probably look just hard to read as the text reflows.

]]> By: Pete Baran http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/05/redesigns-on-you-audience/#comment-269493 Pete Baran Thu, 10 May 2007 10:45:55 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/05/redesigns-on-you-audience/#comment-269493 Why do you do that, why don't you full screen it (made a degree of sense with cascading windows but less so with tabbed browsing). Why do you do that, why don’t you full screen it (made a degree of sense with cascading windows but less so with tabbed browsing).

]]> By: Admin http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/05/redesigns-on-you-audience/#comment-269492 Admin Thu, 10 May 2007 10:43:55 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/05/redesigns-on-you-audience/#comment-269492 <a href="http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/news/archives/2007/05/10/guardian_unlimited_the_new_look_explained.html" rel="nofollow">The designer speaks</a>. "Improvements in web browsers and computer screens mean that we can now offer a wider page than before, giving us a larger canvas " this has been bothering me for some time. i know PC users habitually have web-browsers set to 'full screen' which means FAT layouts are coming. i have a widescreen monitor, but (on my mac) i have quite narrow browser windows (~1000 pixels) that take up less than half the width of the monitor. is there a mac/PC split on this behaviour? The designer speaks.

“Improvements in web browsers and computer screens mean that we can now offer a wider page than before, giving us a larger canvas ”

this has been bothering me for some time. i know PC users habitually have web-browsers set to ‘full screen’ which means FAT layouts are coming. i have a widescreen monitor, but (on my mac) i have quite narrow browser windows (~1000 pixels) that take up less than half the width of the monitor. is there a mac/PC split on this behaviour?

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