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		<title>By: Furious Styles</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/03/man-crisps/#comment-853554</link>
		<dc:creator>Furious Styles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 15:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is atrocious. I mean, the brand director is a woman?</description>
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		<title>By: s.varda</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/03/man-crisps/#comment-733247</link>
		<dc:creator>s.varda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 09:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>looks like they did the &#039;manly&#039; vegetable thing in the end.

http://www.babycarrots.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looks like they did the &#8216;manly&#8217; vegetable thing in the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Les Tennant</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/03/man-crisps/#comment-724554</link>
		<dc:creator>Les Tennant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 09:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^ Typical mail.</description>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/03/man-crisps/#comment-724490</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 02:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what a bunch of pompous arseholes u all are, do u not have anything better to do with your time ? It&#039;s only a fucking advert, get a life !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what a bunch of pompous arseholes u all are, do u not have anything better to do with your time ? It&#8217;s only a fucking advert, get a life !</p>
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		<title>By: self publishing</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/03/man-crisps/#comment-708996</link>
		<dc:creator>self publishing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 12:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mens crisps why dont you mahe a womens crisp for gods sake</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mens crisps why dont you mahe a womens crisp for gods sake</p>
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		<title>By: Nukapai</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/03/man-crisps/#comment-661782</link>
		<dc:creator>Nukapai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the fun post; I linked to it from mine :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the fun post; I linked to it from mine :)</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/03/man-crisps/#comment-444299</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this advert is plain wrong- it&#039;s sending out the message that being feminine/ a woman is basically wrong.

and i bloody thought we were moving PAST the 1850s!

bad move, mccoys.

-*x*-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this advert is plain wrong- it&#8217;s sending out the message that being feminine/ a woman is basically wrong.</p>
<p>and i bloody thought we were moving PAST the 1850s!</p>
<p>bad move, mccoys.</p>
<p>-*x*-</p>
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		<title>By: shelly</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/03/man-crisps/#comment-315844</link>
		<dc:creator>shelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 08:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mens crisps why dont you mahe a womens crisp for gods sake</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mens crisps why dont you mahe a womens crisp for gods sake</p>
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		<title>By: Marcello Carlin</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/03/man-crisps/#comment-295895</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcello Carlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Starry Science Fact DISPROVED as I munch a packet of McCoy&#039;s Flame Grilled Steak crisps at 10:45 every morning with my Roobios tea!

Still I suppose it&#039;s the equal and opposite reaction to the last decade and a half of female-friendly adverts where men are routinely depicted as nerds and/or berks and/or hopeless and/or impotent, most of which were dreamed up by male marketing directors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Starry Science Fact DISPROVED as I munch a packet of McCoy&#8217;s Flame Grilled Steak crisps at 10:45 every morning with my Roobios tea!</p>
<p>Still I suppose it&#8217;s the equal and opposite reaction to the last decade and a half of female-friendly adverts where men are routinely depicted as nerds and/or berks and/or hopeless and/or impotent, most of which were dreamed up by male marketing directors.</p>
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		<title>By: Faith</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/03/man-crisps/#comment-295882</link>
		<dc:creator>Faith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to love Yorkies, but I haven&#039;t bought one since their offensive advertising informed me my money (as a woman) wasn&#039;t good enough.

Very disappointed to find out that some of my favourite crisps will now have to be consigned to the scrapheap. Sad...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to love Yorkies, but I haven&#8217;t bought one since their offensive advertising informed me my money (as a woman) wasn&#8217;t good enough.</p>
<p>Very disappointed to find out that some of my favourite crisps will now have to be consigned to the scrapheap. Sad&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/03/man-crisps/#comment-248959</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No-one eats McCoys outside of AN PUB - this is a science fact!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No-one eats McCoys outside of AN PUB &#8211; this is a science fact!</p>
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		<title>By: Emma</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/03/man-crisps/#comment-248955</link>
		<dc:creator>Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about Coke Zero then? That&#039;s definitely marketed at &#039;proper blokes&#039; rather than big girlie diet coke with girlie girls in offices taking breaks to ogle handymen&#039;s pecs. 

I had been put off trying it cos of the abysmal ads but was forced to at my parents&#039; recently (they are very cruel like that) and lo! it was actually really quite nice, and indeed better than diet coke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Coke Zero then? That&#8217;s definitely marketed at &#8216;proper blokes&#8217; rather than big girlie diet coke with girlie girls in offices taking breaks to ogle handymen&#8217;s pecs. </p>
<p>I had been put off trying it cos of the abysmal ads but was forced to at my parents&#8217; recently (they are very cruel like that) and lo! it was actually really quite nice, and indeed better than diet coke.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Farrell</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/03/man-crisps/#comment-248570</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Farrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want Fathers for Justice to publically ask for sponsorship from these brands, it&#039;s a win-win situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want Fathers for Justice to publically ask for sponsorship from these brands, it&#8217;s a win-win situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/03/man-crisps/#comment-248569</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probing that distinction ridic/offens is exactly what they want to do. when they go over it they generate more press.

defining unmanly adtivities = it sounds pretty offensive already</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probing that distinction ridic/offens is exactly what they want to do. when they go over it they generate more press.</p>
<p>defining unmanly adtivities = it sounds pretty offensive already</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/03/man-crisps/#comment-248556</link>
		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When does this sort of thing cross the line from Ridiculous to Offensive?

Like Andrew says above, Yorkie&#039;s campaign may have reduced the numbers of girls (and discrimination-sensitive blokes) buying Yorkies, but Yorkies taste minging anyway. McCoys taste quite nice though so as an girl I am torn between boycotting said snack product to serve them right or to buy MORE of it to prove them wrong. Either way I can&#039;t win, so I might just buy extra packets of Walkers instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When does this sort of thing cross the line from Ridiculous to Offensive?</p>
<p>Like Andrew says above, Yorkie&#8217;s campaign may have reduced the numbers of girls (and discrimination-sensitive blokes) buying Yorkies, but Yorkies taste minging anyway. McCoys taste quite nice though so as an girl I am torn between boycotting said snack product to serve them right or to buy MORE of it to prove them wrong. Either way I can&#8217;t win, so I might just buy extra packets of Walkers instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Mannion</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/03/man-crisps/#comment-248539</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Mannion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t get/agree with this kind of BRMANDING.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t get/agree with this kind of BRMANDING.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/03/man-crisps/#comment-248538</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if the Yorkie campaign worked or not - I think they&#039;re still doing it but Yorkie is a bit sickly so I haven&#039;t bought one in ages.

Anyway there&#039;s a difference in emphasis between &quot;Not for girls&quot; and &quot;For proper blokes&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if the Yorkie campaign worked or not &#8211; I think they&#8217;re still doing it but Yorkie is a bit sickly so I haven&#8217;t bought one in ages.</p>
<p>Anyway there&#8217;s a difference in emphasis between &#8220;Not for girls&#8221; and &#8220;For proper blokes&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Farrell</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/03/man-crisps/#comment-248537</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Farrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are Yorkie back on the Manwagon? They&#039;re definitely who I think of as the progenitor of it (or the &#039;cheeky&#039; end of it, I&#039;m sure there was a certain amount of &quot;there seems to be some confusion, we reassure our customers that our products are not suitable for womanly sensibilities&quot;, say a century ago).

And why does it need to be countered, my impression was that it didn&#039;t work, that all Yorkie&#039;s &quot;Not for girls&quot; campaign really achieved was to cut down on the number of girls buying it. Mind you I heard that from people who are an easy mark for anti-marketing urban legends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are Yorkie back on the Manwagon? They&#8217;re definitely who I think of as the progenitor of it (or the &#8216;cheeky&#8217; end of it, I&#8217;m sure there was a certain amount of &#8220;there seems to be some confusion, we reassure our customers that our products are not suitable for womanly sensibilities&#8221;, say a century ago).</p>
<p>And why does it need to be countered, my impression was that it didn&#8217;t work, that all Yorkie&#8217;s &#8220;Not for girls&#8221; campaign really achieved was to cut down on the number of girls buying it. Mind you I heard that from people who are an easy mark for anti-marketing urban legends.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/03/man-crisps/#comment-248535</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently had to edit a &quot;thinkpiece&quot; at work which started one paragraph with the high-sounding mantra &quot;In business as in life, the only constant is change&quot;. I pointed out that the previous several paragraphs had been devoted to arguing that the specific market under discussion was subject to several deep constants which didn&#039;t change. The writer seemed to see no contradiction in this whatsoever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently had to edit a &#8220;thinkpiece&#8221; at work which started one paragraph with the high-sounding mantra &#8220;In business as in life, the only constant is change&#8221;. I pointed out that the previous several paragraphs had been devoted to arguing that the specific market under discussion was subject to several deep constants which didn&#8217;t change. The writer seemed to see no contradiction in this whatsoever.</p>
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		<title>By: tracerhand</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/03/man-crisps/#comment-248533</link>
		<dc:creator>tracerhand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In advertising goliath Ogilvy &amp; Mather&#039;s New York headquarters, an inspirational quote from Mr. Ogilvy himself is silkscreened onto the wall: &quot;Change is our lifeblood - stagnation our death knell.&quot; It has been there for at least six years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In advertising goliath Ogilvy &amp; Mather&#8217;s New York headquarters, an inspirational quote from Mr. Ogilvy himself is silkscreened onto the wall: &#8220;Change is our lifeblood &#8211; stagnation our death knell.&#8221; It has been there for at least six years.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/03/man-crisps/#comment-248526</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or a more reasoned response: show me a marketer who doesn&#039;t secretly or openly think of themselves as a bit &quot;edgy&quot;.

Of course in this sense Marketing and (what happened to) Punk are perfect bedfellows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or a more reasoned response: show me a marketer who doesn&#8217;t secretly or openly think of themselves as a bit &#8220;edgy&#8221;.</p>
<p>Of course in this sense Marketing and (what happened to) Punk are perfect bedfellows.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/03/man-crisps/#comment-248523</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aargh.</description>
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		<title>By: Stevie</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/03/man-crisps/#comment-248521</link>
		<dc:creator>Stevie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 11:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not really anything to do with this, but I wonder if had seen this, Dr Marketing:

http://www.businessweek.com/print/innovate/content/mar2007/id20070308_915798.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not really anything to do with this, but I wonder if had seen this, Dr Marketing:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.businessweek.com/print/innovate/content/mar2007/id20070308_915798.htm" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.businessweek.com/print/innovate/content/mar2007/id20070308_915798.htm?referer=');">http://www.businessweek.com/print/innovate/content/mar2007/id20070308_915798.htm</a></p>
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