torchwatch

it is set in BINGE BRITAIN!!

1. FT's pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør on October 25th, 2006

   when am i allowed to commit SPOILERS??

2. Magnus on October 26th, 2006

   That was hardly a spoiler - I had already guessed!

3. FT's Pete Baran on October 26th, 2006

   I think we can spoiler away, since its been on BBC3 and BBC2 and more importantly, I’ve seen it and now have opinions on the gap toothed, Who companion rejects and their sexy alieum crimes.

4. FT's alext on October 26th, 2006

   What is the deal with the hand in a jar, then?

5. FT's Alan on October 26th, 2006

   The implication is that it is the Drs what he lost in the xmo invasion

6. FT's Pete Baran on October 26th, 2006

   If we have proper Torchwatch article, we need to note PC Fringeface’s(copyright Starry) amazing vanishing hair. One minute it is the size of Swansea, the next it fits under her copper-cap. It enthralled me in the first episode.

7. FT's pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør on October 26th, 2006

   i. i love the way cardiff is being used
   ii. RTD is v.v.funny about non-marital sex
   iii. SEX and ALIANGS — ok this could become dreadful, but so far i enjoyed it — ep.2 was quite silly but not a bad way
   iv. rtd is grebt at misdirection
   v. it is already better than the whole of the x-files evah (but then os is being struck over the head with a metal bar)
   vi. i like how capt jack behaves like ANGEL wrt large buildings ie stands on the top edge of them to relax
   vii. i want to marry gwen
   viii. the two woodies who are not jack or gwen are a bit feeble
   ix. the music is too loud really
   x. haha the “asteroid” was an hommage to star trek’s SFX

8. FT's pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør on October 26th, 2006

   there were at least two points when i thought HE READS ILX THREADS — one was the csi jokes obv, the other was gwen’s checklist of things to talk to the possessed girl about (except i can’t remember what the capper WAS here)

9. FT's CarsmileSteve on October 26th, 2006

   also RETCON!! (i had to explain to meg the concept of retcon though)

   i thoroughly enjoyed it, didn’t get the hand thing though. but yes, sex and aliums, hurrah :)

10. FT's Steve Mannion on October 26th, 2006

    ‘i. i love the way cardiff is being used’

    all very Matrixy the standing on building rooves. he’s out to stand on all 37 rooves in Cardiff by the end of the series.

11. FT's pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør on October 26th, 2006

    up to the climax the first ep distinctly reminded me of my lovely DOOMWATCH of long long ago!!

    “No! Toby! Don’t defuse the atom bomb!” *ep ends w.loud explosion offscreen: toby has defused the atom bit but not the bomb bit :( He then went on to play JEEBUS and is currently in Holby City doin an ACCENT.

    But there surely was a TV tec series w.an immortal detective — what am i thinkin of? (CSI: GALILEE no)

12. FT's Steve Mannion on October 26th, 2006

    ‘ep.2 was quite silly but not a bad way”
    agreed! i don’t know how people can complain about ’stolen’ or ’seen it before’ ideas in this way for this sort of show really.

    ‘v. it is already better than the whole of the x-files evah’

    aka humour is better than bleakness?

    ‘ix. the music is too loud really’

    OTM - my guess is that it was ‘badly Mastered’ due to them running too close to deadline

13. FT's pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør on October 26th, 2006

    no it is ANGEL not the MATRIX — subtle distinction between GUARDEDLY AWESOME and MOST RUB THING IN ENTIRE COMPLETE HISTORY OF RUB

    but actually what i meant more was the decision to make a very specific newly architected regional city-centre a stageset — with the exception of poxy oxford, non-london urbs uk is rarely starred this way

14. FT's pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør on October 26th, 2006

    re x-files: swift self-awareness is better than ALWAYS BEING INTENSELY BORING wd be my capsule review! Post-MIB i think it is hard anyway to “not notice” the fact that you have cast Earth as a pan-galactic flight hub

    ep2 was kind of a star trekky idea i spose, but w. RTD’s QAF skeez just done in a very funny way

    and plus set in BINGE BRITAIN! this really is my favourite decision and i hope they don’t throw it away too soon

15. FT's Pete Baran on October 26th, 2006

    I am absoultely certain that there will be an alieum alcopop episode at least. (Binge Drink Britain - call it by its name).

    My favourite bit was the way Capn Jack avoid question abou tthe HOLE IN THE STREET, by channelling Ecclescake Doctor.

    Oh no, the mystery of Torchwood 4??? (Belfast one assumes). Above the police, outside the United Nations, er - “all in Britain”.

16. FT's cis on October 26th, 2006

    oi, Ianto-make-the-tea is not feeble! Ianto-make-the-tea is creepily professional!

    I love love loved the way you’d get those grandiose swooping cityscape shots that in Angel would be LA or in CSI would be Las Vegas, but here they are CARDIFF. Also i think it is designed to appeal to that little bit in your heart that says ‘aw, i love the Welsh’ every time you hear the accent.

17. FT's pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør on October 26th, 2006

    (ianto is ok, yr right)

    haha when the oldster woodies all asked her “so what hgave you found out about capt jack” and gwen sed “but you’ve all known him for ages” and they sed “yes but you’re a POLICE!”

    also (i’m sorry i know i am RTD’s BITCH) i liked the bit where gwen asked if they had bfs&gfs

18. FT's Alan on October 26th, 2006

    except “Day one” wasn’t scripted by RTD - tho i get yr meaning, it is an RTD show. and i too liked that bit.

    on the whole it’s OK - not gripped by it. too predictable so far. harsh to judge on “the set up episode” and one more. i’ll give it more. i’m more +ve about this than emorobin.

    emma is finding CptJack a bit insufferable compared to his DrW incarnation.

19. FT's Steve Mannion on October 26th, 2006

    problem with Captain Jack is perhaps that he’s now in Leader role as opposed to maverick sidekick in Who. he doesn’t really cut a good moralistic authority figure imo.

20. FT's pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør on October 26th, 2006

    true — and not to defend CJ too much, tho he’s better than david BOREanaZZZZ — but wasn’t the fun of these two eps gwen’s dawning realisation that ACTUALLY NO RULES APPLY? (and that her job will be to come up with some and enforce them!)

    it is so the opposite of the usual conspiracy-theory routine re sekrit orgs (CONSPIRACY STUPID MORE LIKE)

    i still carry a torch of timid hope for tinyhood but it is guttering fast

21. FT's alext on October 26th, 2006

    I quite liked the Cardiff as awesome place, but the idea that the secret hideout is slap under a landmark niggles a bit.

    What I didn’t think worked was the team dynamics of Torchwood itself.

22. FT's Martin Skidmore on October 26th, 2006

    Gwen’s role reminds me of one in a part of one of my old favourite SF novels, Theodore Sturgeon’s More Than Human, where a human is drafted by a somewhat symbiotic group of mutants, to act as their ethical guide and conscience.

    I thought it was a good setup, then the second was disturbingly like episode 86754636 in a long-running SF series, so I hope we don’t get loads like that. I’ll keep watching.

23. Kat on October 26th, 2006

    Urggh there was way too many overhead swooping shots of Cardiff, so that in the one occasion it could have been really effective the impact was undermined.

    I haven’t seen any Who that had CJ in it (”I didn’t get where I am today by appearing in BBC3 spinoffs”) so he is a new character to me & tbh I’m quite disappointed. Gwen is cool though, although a bit heavy on the humanism “ooooh you can’t abandon her she’s just a girl” etc.

    Concur abt music being rub & overbearing. And that the sechs episode was direct lift off that Outer Limits episode.

24. FT's pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør on October 26th, 2006

    way too many is NOT ENOUGH!

25. FT's CarsmileSteve on October 26th, 2006

    i thought the music was better than on WHO, but obv if they want to make it CSI: Cardiff, they should’ve got THE WHO…

    also, as my friend alice points out on lj, Captain Jack = CAPTAIN SCARLETT!!!

26. FT's pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør on October 26th, 2006

    yes!! that’s the “immortal detective” i wz thinkin of up above!

    *drifts off into sechs fantasy abt grizzled captain black*

    ps which who song? i think UNCLE ERNIE

27. FT's Alan on October 26th, 2006

    baba o’reilly

    on a theme tune tip, the vocal sample/hook that crops up really reminds me of a New Order track - i think on the second side of Brotherhood

28. FT's Alan on October 26th, 2006

    (Angel dust)

29. FT's pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør on October 26th, 2006

    baba o’reilly is already taken by “csi:nci:nic:cni:cis:sic” isn’t it?

30. FT's pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør on October 26th, 2006

    (aka csi: seamen)

31. FT's Alan on October 26th, 2006

    OH YES. according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baba_O‘Riley

32. FT's Pete Baran on October 26th, 2006

    Yes I thort Captain Jack = Captain Scarlet. Gwen obv = gaptoothed Jimmy Tarbuck.

33. Kat on October 26th, 2006

    Baba O RLY?

34. FT's pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør on October 26th, 2006

    baba YA RLY

35. Dadaismus on October 27th, 2006

    Everybody’s crazy for a gap-toothed woman (I know I am)

36. FT's pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør on October 27th, 2006

    GAPS IN TEETH R SEXYHOTT (bcz they remind ppl of ME)

37. Dadaismus on October 27th, 2006

    You or Jimmy Tarbuck, one of the two

38. Marcello Carlin on October 27th, 2006

    Oho!