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	<title>Comments on: MARVIN GAYE &#8211; &#8220;I Heard It Through The Grapevine&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Lena</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2006/09/marvin-gaye-i-heard-it-through-the-grapevine/#comment-980089</link>
		<dc:creator>Lena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 10:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oom-pah-pah in the UK:  http://musicsoundsbetterwithtwo.blogspot.com/2012/01/pink-fluff-lulu-boom-bang-bang.html Thanks for reading, everyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oom-pah-pah in the UK:  <a href="http://musicsoundsbetterwithtwo.blogspot.com/2012/01/pink-fluff-lulu-boom-bang-bang.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/musicsoundsbetterwithtwo.blogspot.com/2012/01/pink-fluff-lulu-boom-bang-bang.html?referer=');">http://musicsoundsbetterwithtwo.blogspot.com/2012/01/pink-fluff-lulu-boom-bang-bang.html</a> Thanks for reading, everyone!</p>
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		<title>By: Lena</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2006/09/marvin-gaye-i-heard-it-through-the-grapevine/#comment-974355</link>
		<dc:creator>Lena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 16:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What, me worry?: http://musicsoundsbetterwithtwo.blogspot.com/2012/01/knowing-dean-martin-gentle-on-my-mind.html Thanks for reading, everyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What, me worry?: <a href="http://musicsoundsbetterwithtwo.blogspot.com/2012/01/knowing-dean-martin-gentle-on-my-mind.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/musicsoundsbetterwithtwo.blogspot.com/2012/01/knowing-dean-martin-gentle-on-my-mind.html?referer=');">http://musicsoundsbetterwithtwo.blogspot.com/2012/01/knowing-dean-martin-gentle-on-my-mind.html</a> Thanks for reading, everyone!</p>
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		<title>By: crag</title>
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		<dc:creator>crag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DESERT ISLAND DISCS WATCH:

Alan Price, Singer(1982)

Raymond Seitz,American Ambassador to the UK(1993)

Pete Waterman, record producer(1995)

Dr Susan Greenfield, Writer, Neuroscientist(1997)

Professor Stuart Hall,Cultural theorist(2000)

Quentin Blake, Illustrator(2006).</description>
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<p>Alan Price, Singer(1982)</p>
<p>Raymond Seitz,American Ambassador to the UK(1993)</p>
<p>Pete Waterman, record producer(1995)</p>
<p>Dr Susan Greenfield, Writer, Neuroscientist(1997)</p>
<p>Professor Stuart Hall,Cultural theorist(2000)</p>
<p>Quentin Blake, Illustrator(2006).</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2006/09/marvin-gaye-i-heard-it-through-the-grapevine/#comment-733359</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 19:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To follow on from #40 if you think the Oostende period was odd then it&#039;s rumoured he spent some time living in a bread van in Hawaii during the late 70&#039;s. Needless to say by this point excessive drug use was taking a huge toll. Inexplicably stripping down to his underwear during live performances may have been amusing but having roadies and assorted lackeys carry weaponry (including sub-machine guns) because he believed the ex-wife had a contract out on him less so.

Gaye&#039;s final years were a sorry tale and there was little evidence to suggest that a commercial rebirth with &#039;Midnight Love&#039; and the new contract with Columbia would have turned around a chaotic private life. 

It must be said though that despite the abuse he put his body through for several years his voice remained in fine shape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To follow on from #40 if you think the Oostende period was odd then it&#8217;s rumoured he spent some time living in a bread van in Hawaii during the late 70&#8242;s. Needless to say by this point excessive drug use was taking a huge toll. Inexplicably stripping down to his underwear during live performances may have been amusing but having roadies and assorted lackeys carry weaponry (including sub-machine guns) because he believed the ex-wife had a contract out on him less so.</p>
<p>Gaye&#8217;s final years were a sorry tale and there was little evidence to suggest that a commercial rebirth with &#8216;Midnight Love&#8217; and the new contract with Columbia would have turned around a chaotic private life. </p>
<p>It must be said though that despite the abuse he put his body through for several years his voice remained in fine shape.</p>
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		<title>By: pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</title>
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		<dc:creator>pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 10:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I learnt the sad news via twitter, but I was pleased also to see it reported in the Metro yesterday, over someone else&#039;s shoulder  -- even if the heaqdline had to do a lot of explanatory heavy-lifting (it called her &quot;Sex Pistol daughter-in-law&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I learnt the sad news via twitter, but I was pleased also to see it reported in the Metro yesterday, over someone else&#8217;s shoulder  &#8212; even if the heaqdline had to do a lot of explanatory heavy-lifting (it called her &#8220;Sex Pistol daughter-in-law&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: rosie</title>
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		<dc:creator>rosie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 09:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since The Slits get a mention in this thread, it&#039;s a good place to mark the passing of Ariane Forster, aka Ari Up.  The cool people apparently learned this on John Lydon&#039;s home page.  Uncool Rosie heard in on &lt;i&gt;Woman&#039;s Hour&lt;/i&gt; this morning but then I am the first on Popular to mention it!

(Slits notwithstanding, I still think this is a straight-up 10)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since The Slits get a mention in this thread, it&#8217;s a good place to mark the passing of Ariane Forster, aka Ari Up.  The cool people apparently learned this on John Lydon&#8217;s home page.  Uncool Rosie heard in on <i>Woman&#8217;s Hour</i> this morning but then I am the first on Popular to mention it!</p>
<p>(Slits notwithstanding, I still think this is a straight-up 10)</p>
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		<title>By: Waldo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Waldo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was certainly one of Motown&#039;s absolute finest and I suppose I must declare my admiration notwithstanding for Gaye as an artist in the Register of Members&#039; Interests (The Tempts too, since you ask) before going any further. I can well remember this being on TOTP, shortly before my eighth birthday but not quite understanding what &quot;grapevine&quot; meant. It was probably the case that I assumed that grizzling Marvin certainly may have been having a few glasses before slurring &quot;how much longer can you be mine&quot; to the woman who was dumping the bum, which would be in direct line with how Waldo would evolve as a young man, but I cannot be sure of this. Just as I cannot be sure that The Onion Song inspired my passion for curries, which has long been accepted as a rite of passage for all freeborn Englishmen - well, certainly of my vintage.

Marvin&#039;s was a remarkable talent within a stable of greatness. Smokey and Stevie shone equally (I think Wonder is a genius) but it was Gaye who really captivated me and it was this magnificent record which alerted me to him. &quot;Got To Give It Up&quot; and &quot;Sexual Healing&quot; followed decade by decade and then the singer&#039;s manic father shot him to death in order to &quot;teach Marvin a lesson&quot;. The sad little prequel to this shocking and needless murder was a documentary Gaye made when he bizarrely turned up in Oostende, of all places, and wandered around this unremarkable Belgian seaside town talking gibberish. Not many of the locals knew who he was. One fisherman asked him (certainly in the spirit of the lunacy of the situation) whether he was from Uruguay. Soul legend he might have been but Gaye&#039;s confession that he had no idea where this country was only demonstrated the poorness of the knowledge of lands outside their own country&#039;s borders which is sadly typical of many of his compatriates. But then again, he did have enough savvy to find Belgium, much good that it did him, the poor bastard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was certainly one of Motown&#8217;s absolute finest and I suppose I must declare my admiration notwithstanding for Gaye as an artist in the Register of Members&#8217; Interests (The Tempts too, since you ask) before going any further. I can well remember this being on TOTP, shortly before my eighth birthday but not quite understanding what &#8220;grapevine&#8221; meant. It was probably the case that I assumed that grizzling Marvin certainly may have been having a few glasses before slurring &#8220;how much longer can you be mine&#8221; to the woman who was dumping the bum, which would be in direct line with how Waldo would evolve as a young man, but I cannot be sure of this. Just as I cannot be sure that The Onion Song inspired my passion for curries, which has long been accepted as a rite of passage for all freeborn Englishmen &#8211; well, certainly of my vintage.</p>
<p>Marvin&#8217;s was a remarkable talent within a stable of greatness. Smokey and Stevie shone equally (I think Wonder is a genius) but it was Gaye who really captivated me and it was this magnificent record which alerted me to him. &#8220;Got To Give It Up&#8221; and &#8220;Sexual Healing&#8221; followed decade by decade and then the singer&#8217;s manic father shot him to death in order to &#8220;teach Marvin a lesson&#8221;. The sad little prequel to this shocking and needless murder was a documentary Gaye made when he bizarrely turned up in Oostende, of all places, and wandered around this unremarkable Belgian seaside town talking gibberish. Not many of the locals knew who he was. One fisherman asked him (certainly in the spirit of the lunacy of the situation) whether he was from Uruguay. Soul legend he might have been but Gaye&#8217;s confession that he had no idea where this country was only demonstrated the poorness of the knowledge of lands outside their own country&#8217;s borders which is sadly typical of many of his compatriates. But then again, he did have enough savvy to find Belgium, much good that it did him, the poor bastard.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Punctum</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ Punctum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm...for me that was the point where they teetered into self-parody.  Lots of reviews at the time of the &quot;it was very nice of Norman to allow the Temptations to appear on their own record&quot; variety.

On a not entirely separate note, has anyone else heard Marc Rapson&#039;s pretty stunning dub remix of &quot;Grapevine&quot;?  I&#039;m absolutely sure that had the 12-inch single existed back then Whitfield would have jumped straight in and done an extended mix, and this is quite fantastic...

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&amp;friendID=51106925</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;for me that was the point where they teetered into self-parody.  Lots of reviews at the time of the &#8220;it was very nice of Norman to allow the Temptations to appear on their own record&#8221; variety.</p>
<p>On a not entirely separate note, has anyone else heard Marc Rapson&#8217;s pretty stunning dub remix of &#8220;Grapevine&#8221;?  I&#8217;m absolutely sure that had the 12-inch single existed back then Whitfield would have jumped straight in and done an extended mix, and this is quite fantastic&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re. Norman Whitfield: see also the remarkable &lt;i&gt;Masterpiece&lt;/i&gt;, his last album with The Temptations - although in truth the Tempts barely get a look-in, leading certain wags of the day to dub them &quot;the Norman Whitfield Chorale&quot;.  As annoying as that sidelining might have been to the Tempts at the time, what remains is a marvellous piece of symphonic soul indulgence, particularly on the 13 minute near-instrumental title track and the seminal underground gay dance classic &quot;Law Of The Land&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re. Norman Whitfield: see also the remarkable <i>Masterpiece</i>, his last album with The Temptations &#8211; although in truth the Tempts barely get a look-in, leading certain wags of the day to dub them &#8220;the Norman Whitfield Chorale&#8221;.  As annoying as that sidelining might have been to the Tempts at the time, what remains is a marvellous piece of symphonic soul indulgence, particularly on the 13 minute near-instrumental title track and the seminal underground gay dance classic &#8220;Law Of The Land&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Erithian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erithian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed yes - funny we should be discussing the syndrum right now on the Ring My Bell thread.  Now there (i.e. Rose Royce) was a case where that sound enhanced the record rather than dominating it, and what a fantastic song.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed yes &#8211; funny we should be discussing the syndrum right now on the Ring My Bell thread.  Now there (i.e. Rose Royce) was a case where that sound enhanced the record rather than dominating it, and what a fantastic song.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Punctum</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ Punctum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, on &quot;Love Don&#039;t Live Here Anymore,&quot; the most subtle and emotional use of the syndrum in pop I can think of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, on &#8220;Love Don&#8217;t Live Here Anymore,&#8221; the most subtle and emotional use of the syndrum in pop I can think of.</p>
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		<title>By: Erithian</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2006/09/marvin-gaye-i-heard-it-through-the-grapevine/#comment-502148</link>
		<dc:creator>Erithian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Norman Whitfield R.I.P.  This and &quot;Papa Was A Rolling Stone&quot; for starters - wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Norman Whitfield R.I.P.  This and &#8220;Papa Was A Rolling Stone&#8221; for starters &#8211; wow.</p>
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		<title>By: marian amos</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2006/09/marvin-gaye-i-heard-it-through-the-grapevine/#comment-261544</link>
		<dc:creator>marian amos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>did anyone make an instumental that you know of?</description>
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		<title>By: intothefireuk</title>
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		<dc:creator>intothefireuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marvins ultra smooth effortless delivery is what seals it for me. That and the psuedo tribal rhythm behind the intro and chorus. It is though so familiar now it is easy to overlook just how good it really is. Of course at the time of its release Gaye was planning to edge Motown in a more overtly politically conscious direction possibly hastened by the death of MLK. This would be combined with elongated, lusher orchestral arrangements which would in turn pave the way for &#039;Seventies soul&#039; - but we&#039;ll get to that in a few years time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marvins ultra smooth effortless delivery is what seals it for me. That and the psuedo tribal rhythm behind the intro and chorus. It is though so familiar now it is easy to overlook just how good it really is. Of course at the time of its release Gaye was planning to edge Motown in a more overtly politically conscious direction possibly hastened by the death of MLK. This would be combined with elongated, lusher orchestral arrangements which would in turn pave the way for &#8216;Seventies soul&#8217; &#8211; but we&#8217;ll get to that in a few years time.</p>
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		<title>By: Oh No It's Dadaismus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oh No It's Dadaismus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;are there enough nixon era ‘motown x “dazed and confused”‘ epics to fill a cd-r?&lt;/i&gt;

Rare Earth&#039;s entire career surely?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>are there enough nixon era ‘motown x “dazed and confused”‘ epics to fill a cd-r?</i></p>
<p>Rare Earth&#8217;s entire career surely?</p>
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		<title>By: blount</title>
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		<dc:creator>blount</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 02:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>was the ccr potentially in &#039;response&#039; to vanilla fudge&#039;s &#039;keep me hanging on&#039;? are there enough nixon era &#039;motown x &quot;dazed and confused&quot;&#039; epics to fill a cd-r?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>was the ccr potentially in &#8216;response&#8217; to vanilla fudge&#8217;s &#8216;keep me hanging on&#8217;? are there enough nixon era &#8216;motown x &#8220;dazed and confused&#8221;&#8216; epics to fill a cd-r?</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Mod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctor Mod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 21:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or awesomely ghastly.</description>
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		<title>By: blount</title>
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		<dc:creator>blount</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 19:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i flip-flop between &#039;this is ghastly/this is awesome&#039; re: the ccr version all the time</description>
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		<title>By: Doctor Mod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctor Mod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 17:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And so I turned on the television late last night and the first person I saw on the screen was ... Gladys Knight.  

She still has my vote.  Must hear the Slits.

(Anyone remember the eleven-minute Creedence Clearwater Revival version?  No?  It&#039;s just as well.)</description>
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<p>She still has my vote.  Must hear the Slits.</p>
<p>(Anyone remember the eleven-minute Creedence Clearwater Revival version?  No?  It&#8217;s just as well.)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 15:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In expectation of this coming up, I actually bought a Marvin Gaye best-of because I thought it rather remiss of me not to own this record. I was sort of worried about the whole saturation thing too because I wasn&#039;t there at the time, and I&#039;ve never known of this as anything other than an acknowledged classic - the &quot;To Be Or Not To Be&quot; comparison is a very apt one. I was eight when it was back in the Top 10 thanks to that jeans advert and I remember the raisins too (raisins, grapevine - do you see what they did there?!) to the extent that I dimly recall watching a mock-rockumentary about the California Raisins. 

When I try to put all that aside, though, it stands up pretty well. I&#039;m inclined to agree that the intro is the most dramatic part of all, shuffling in but still introducing tension. The other moment I&#039;d like to commend is &quot;Losing *YOU* would end my life you see,&quot; precisely because it doesn&#039;t sound even remotely contrived, though it obviously is. 

BTW, Gladys Knight&#039;s version only got to 47 in the UK. I know I have heard it, but I don&#039;t really remember what it sounded like. Never cared for the Slits though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In expectation of this coming up, I actually bought a Marvin Gaye best-of because I thought it rather remiss of me not to own this record. I was sort of worried about the whole saturation thing too because I wasn&#8217;t there at the time, and I&#8217;ve never known of this as anything other than an acknowledged classic &#8211; the &#8220;To Be Or Not To Be&#8221; comparison is a very apt one. I was eight when it was back in the Top 10 thanks to that jeans advert and I remember the raisins too (raisins, grapevine &#8211; do you see what they did there?!) to the extent that I dimly recall watching a mock-rockumentary about the California Raisins. </p>
<p>When I try to put all that aside, though, it stands up pretty well. I&#8217;m inclined to agree that the intro is the most dramatic part of all, shuffling in but still introducing tension. The other moment I&#8217;d like to commend is &#8220;Losing *YOU* would end my life you see,&#8221; precisely because it doesn&#8217;t sound even remotely contrived, though it obviously is. </p>
<p>BTW, Gladys Knight&#8217;s version only got to 47 in the UK. I know I have heard it, but I don&#8217;t really remember what it sounded like. Never cared for the Slits though.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 10:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably shameful admission: &quot;Grapevine&quot; is the only Slits I know! I mostly associate it with Matt DC&#039;s Club Seal night. (I think I once heard two tracks off &#039;Cut&#039; but the mood wasn&#039;t right and I didn&#039;t enjoy them)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably shameful admission: &#8220;Grapevine&#8221; is the only Slits I know! I mostly associate it with Matt DC&#8217;s Club Seal night. (I think I once heard two tracks off &#8216;Cut&#8217; but the mood wasn&#8217;t right and I didn&#8217;t enjoy them)</p>
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		<title>By: blount</title>
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		<dc:creator>blount</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 20:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can&#039;t say/wasn&#039;t there obv but it definitely seems like it&#039;d slide in beside &quot;white rabbit&quot; very well - foreboding tone well established on the american hit parade by this point since at least &#039;fwiw&#039;, maybe rooted in &#039;eve of destruction&#039; being such a smash, maybe (MAYBE) residue/heirs to &#039;dead teenager&#039; songs of early 60s? (by this point there were a lot of dead teenagers obv).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can&#8217;t say/wasn&#8217;t there obv but it definitely seems like it&#8217;d slide in beside &#8220;white rabbit&#8221; very well &#8211; foreboding tone well established on the american hit parade by this point since at least &#8216;fwiw&#8217;, maybe rooted in &#8216;eve of destruction&#8217; being such a smash, maybe (MAYBE) residue/heirs to &#8216;dead teenager&#8217; songs of early 60s? (by this point there were a lot of dead teenagers obv).</p>
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		<title>By: koganbot</title>
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		<dc:creator>koganbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 20:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the old Slits, and I don&#039;t think I was irritated by their &quot;Heard It Through The Grapevine&quot; when I first heard it so much as I was bored. But in retrospect it marked the transition to my not loving them and from the band going from inventive, surprising, sharp-witted, and mocking to sentimental quasi-mystical &quot;tribal&quot; clomp blomp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the old Slits, and I don&#8217;t think I was irritated by their &#8220;Heard It Through The Grapevine&#8221; when I first heard it so much as I was bored. But in retrospect it marked the transition to my not loving them and from the band going from inventive, surprising, sharp-witted, and mocking to sentimental quasi-mystical &#8220;tribal&#8221; clomp blomp.</p>
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		<title>By: koganbot</title>
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		<dc:creator>koganbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 20:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wwolfe raises an interesting question of how the song would have stood out or fit in if it had been issued the year it was recorded, 1967. I&#039;d guess it would have fit fine. I can&#039;t imagine that it would have sounded &lt;i&gt;more&lt;/i&gt; menacing and frightening than &quot;White Rabbit,&quot; and it wouldn&#039;t have had any of the latter&#039;s frightening (to me) cultural overtones. I don&#039;t want to say that &quot;Summer of Love&quot; was a mere advertising slogan based on a line by the not-all-that-hip John Phillips, but it hardly conveys the year in music. I&#039;m sure I&#039;d have been stunned and scared by the first Velvets album if I&#039;d heard it. But it wouldn&#039;t have felt different &lt;i&gt;in kind&lt;/i&gt; from the aforementioned &quot;White Rabbit&quot; or from &quot;The End&quot; by the Doors, or for that matter from all those Yardbirds-derived garage rockers from the likes of the Count Five and the Electric Prunes (&quot;Get Me to the World On Time&quot; and &quot;Too Much to Dream&quot; sounded real brutal in their time, banging their way out of the radio), given that the Velvets themselves were basically Yardbirds-derived garage rockers. Years later I&#039;d hear for the first time tracks recorded back in 1966 by an obscure San Francisco psychedelic band called The Great Society, and was excited by how much the rhythms and the guitar playing reminded me of the Velvet Underground. The Great Society recorded the original versions of &quot;White Rabbit&quot; and &quot;Somebody to Love,&quot; which the lead singer took with her when she joined Jefferson Airplane the next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wwolfe raises an interesting question of how the song would have stood out or fit in if it had been issued the year it was recorded, 1967. I&#8217;d guess it would have fit fine. I can&#8217;t imagine that it would have sounded <i>more</i> menacing and frightening than &#8220;White Rabbit,&#8221; and it wouldn&#8217;t have had any of the latter&#8217;s frightening (to me) cultural overtones. I don&#8217;t want to say that &#8220;Summer of Love&#8221; was a mere advertising slogan based on a line by the not-all-that-hip John Phillips, but it hardly conveys the year in music. I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;d have been stunned and scared by the first Velvets album if I&#8217;d heard it. But it wouldn&#8217;t have felt different <i>in kind</i> from the aforementioned &#8220;White Rabbit&#8221; or from &#8220;The End&#8221; by the Doors, or for that matter from all those Yardbirds-derived garage rockers from the likes of the Count Five and the Electric Prunes (&#8220;Get Me to the World On Time&#8221; and &#8220;Too Much to Dream&#8221; sounded real brutal in their time, banging their way out of the radio), given that the Velvets themselves were basically Yardbirds-derived garage rockers. Years later I&#8217;d hear for the first time tracks recorded back in 1966 by an obscure San Francisco psychedelic band called The Great Society, and was excited by how much the rhythms and the guitar playing reminded me of the Velvet Underground. The Great Society recorded the original versions of &#8220;White Rabbit&#8221; and &#8220;Somebody to Love,&#8221; which the lead singer took with her when she joined Jefferson Airplane the next year.</p>
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		<title>By: koganbot</title>
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		<dc:creator>koganbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 19:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mod OTM as to the shadowy paranoia of the Gaye version, though that&#039;s why I prefer the Gaye--esp. adore the creepily eerie keyboard, comes from ghostland. Fwiw, I think guitar players Tom &amp; John Fogerty get a sound that&#039;s almost as skin-tingling in the Creedence version, which when edited down to three minutes I love even more than the Gladys Knight. (And I loathe the Slits&#039; version, but that&#039;s a different story.)

Song hate hasn&#039;t shown up on this thread, at least not yet, but I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if there&#039;s a lot in the world. &quot;Grapevine&quot; became a boomer nostalgia song at the time of &lt;i&gt;The Big Chill&lt;/i&gt;, hence all those TV commercials. When I think of what I &quot;feel&quot; in relation to that song, it&#039;s really what I &lt;i&gt;recall&lt;/i&gt; feeling, since so much oversaturation makes it hard for the music to come across with any attributes anymore. It&#039;s to great songs as &quot;To be or not to be&quot; is to great phrases lifted from soliloquies: you forget that the words actually mean something. I myself am particularly oversaturated because I walk for exercise, and when I want to keep up a good clip I&#039;ll lock myself into a rhythm from a song, and my tempo song for flat surfaces is the Gaye version of &quot;Heard It Through the Grapevine.&quot; I don&#039;t have a walkman, so this is all in my head, but my mind plays that song every day, not for any feeling or meaning but just to keep the pace.

Real good Douglas Wolk piece from a few years back about the challenge in covering the song. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.villagevoice.com/music/9920,wolk,5868,22.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Just three lines in, you have to leap up an octave in the middle of a phrase and nail a crucial word of the lyric.&quot;&lt;/A&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mod OTM as to the shadowy paranoia of the Gaye version, though that&#8217;s why I prefer the Gaye&#8211;esp. adore the creepily eerie keyboard, comes from ghostland. Fwiw, I think guitar players Tom &amp; John Fogerty get a sound that&#8217;s almost as skin-tingling in the Creedence version, which when edited down to three minutes I love even more than the Gladys Knight. (And I loathe the Slits&#8217; version, but that&#8217;s a different story.)</p>
<p>Song hate hasn&#8217;t shown up on this thread, at least not yet, but I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if there&#8217;s a lot in the world. &#8220;Grapevine&#8221; became a boomer nostalgia song at the time of <i>The Big Chill</i>, hence all those TV commercials. When I think of what I &#8220;feel&#8221; in relation to that song, it&#8217;s really what I <i>recall</i> feeling, since so much oversaturation makes it hard for the music to come across with any attributes anymore. It&#8217;s to great songs as &#8220;To be or not to be&#8221; is to great phrases lifted from soliloquies: you forget that the words actually mean something. I myself am particularly oversaturated because I walk for exercise, and when I want to keep up a good clip I&#8217;ll lock myself into a rhythm from a song, and my tempo song for flat surfaces is the Gaye version of &#8220;Heard It Through the Grapevine.&#8221; I don&#8217;t have a walkman, so this is all in my head, but my mind plays that song every day, not for any feeling or meaning but just to keep the pace.</p>
<p>Real good Douglas Wolk piece from a few years back about the challenge in covering the song. <a href="http://www.villagevoice.com/music/9920,wolk,5868,22.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.villagevoice.com/music/9920_wolk_5868_22.html?referer=');">&#8220;Just three lines in, you have to leap up an octave in the middle of a phrase and nail a crucial word of the lyric.&#8221;</a></p>
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