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	<title>Comments on: DESMOND DEKKER AND THE ACES &#8211; &#8220;Israelites&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Waldo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Waldo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 21:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The misheard lyric feature of this was set in stone and you could make up your own pic and mix - &quot;my ears are alight&quot;, &quot;strawberries for breakfast&quot; and all the rest of it. Once everyone had stopped laughing at themselves, delighted at their own wit, they listened to the record and concluded that they were in the presence of something quite extraordinary. The fact that the skins latched onto it has got nothing to do with it other than to remind people from later generations of the basic history of the youths of the period back then. This is undoubtedly a monster of a record. And that opening is just sublime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The misheard lyric feature of this was set in stone and you could make up your own pic and mix &#8211; &#8220;my ears are alight&#8221;, &#8220;strawberries for breakfast&#8221; and all the rest of it. Once everyone had stopped laughing at themselves, delighted at their own wit, they listened to the record and concluded that they were in the presence of something quite extraordinary. The fact that the skins latched onto it has got nothing to do with it other than to remind people from later generations of the basic history of the youths of the period back then. This is undoubtedly a monster of a record. And that opening is just sublime.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 06:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t realise this wasn&#039;t just &quot;the music from the Vitalite advert&quot; until 2008.  I am pop illiterate!  Definitely a 10 though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t realise this wasn&#8217;t just &#8220;the music from the Vitalite advert&#8221; until 2008.  I am pop illiterate!  Definitely a 10 though.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Smart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy Smart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 12:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw Desmond Dekker play the Lewisham People&#039;s Festival in the summer of 1994. The songs were better than the band, but then, who was complaining? It was reggae legend Desmond Dekker in the park! Also on a rather odd bill were John Hegley and Eddie Izzard.

When I was a child, Dekker was frequently in the local papers in articles for which the tone was always &quot;Rock legend Desmond Dekker lives in *Lewisham*!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw Desmond Dekker play the Lewisham People&#8217;s Festival in the summer of 1994. The songs were better than the band, but then, who was complaining? It was reggae legend Desmond Dekker in the park! Also on a rather odd bill were John Hegley and Eddie Izzard.</p>
<p>When I was a child, Dekker was frequently in the local papers in articles for which the tone was always &#8220;Rock legend Desmond Dekker lives in *Lewisham*!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: intothefireuk</title>
		<link>http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2006/09/desmond-dekker-and-the-aces-israelites/#comment-35507</link>
		<dc:creator>intothefireuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 08:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never connected with this as a child except maybe for novelty value. I agree with the earlier posts that it wasn&#039;t played much on the radio as otherwise I&#039;m sure it would have left a bigger impression on me. Yes unfortunately its the margarine ad that we all know and love that brought it into focus much more than being a number one from this period. I once covered this with my band without actually knowing what the lyrics were (the days before the interweb) - I made most of them up - funnily enough no one noticed !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never connected with this as a child except maybe for novelty value. I agree with the earlier posts that it wasn&#8217;t played much on the radio as otherwise I&#8217;m sure it would have left a bigger impression on me. Yes unfortunately its the margarine ad that we all know and love that brought it into focus much more than being a number one from this period. I once covered this with my band without actually knowing what the lyrics were (the days before the interweb) &#8211; I made most of them up &#8211; funnily enough no one noticed !</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Mod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctor Mod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 17:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was actually a hit in the US some months later, though something less than #1.  (And, to be honest, most Americans thought it was some odd thing with Jamaicans singing about the Middle East, as most Americans knew nothing of Rastafarians then.  I&#039;m not sure that most would think differently today.)

Nothing, truly nothing ever heard on US pop music radio sounded like this before.  The timbre of Dekker&#039;s voice, the oddly tuned (and played) guitar, the strange harmonies of the backing vocals, and the &quot;ticky&quot; beat sounded dissonant as a whole to those unused to such things, but it was undeniably compelling, at least to those who didn&#039;t find it unendingly irritating.  But then there are those who find anything different irritating, and I suppose this first reggae hit in the US set off some sort of &quot;Fear of a Black Planet&quot; in those susceptible to such fears.  (I recall that the radio DJs kept calling the group &quot;English&quot; rather than Jamaican.)

But I had just completed high school and, because my family actually was poor by American standards, I had to go to work.  (It would be many years before Doctor Mod became a doctor.)  Even if I didn&#039;t truly understand what this song was about, I surely could relate to its first line.  It wasn&#039;t what I&#039;d planned on doing--but, no, I didn&#039;t want to end up like Bonnie and Clyde.  I&#039;d seen that movie too.

Stand fast, Tom--it&#039;s a genuine 10.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was actually a hit in the US some months later, though something less than #1.  (And, to be honest, most Americans thought it was some odd thing with Jamaicans singing about the Middle East, as most Americans knew nothing of Rastafarians then.  I&#8217;m not sure that most would think differently today.)</p>
<p>Nothing, truly nothing ever heard on US pop music radio sounded like this before.  The timbre of Dekker&#8217;s voice, the oddly tuned (and played) guitar, the strange harmonies of the backing vocals, and the &#8220;ticky&#8221; beat sounded dissonant as a whole to those unused to such things, but it was undeniably compelling, at least to those who didn&#8217;t find it unendingly irritating.  But then there are those who find anything different irritating, and I suppose this first reggae hit in the US set off some sort of &#8220;Fear of a Black Planet&#8221; in those susceptible to such fears.  (I recall that the radio DJs kept calling the group &#8220;English&#8221; rather than Jamaican.)</p>
<p>But I had just completed high school and, because my family actually was poor by American standards, I had to go to work.  (It would be many years before Doctor Mod became a doctor.)  Even if I didn&#8217;t truly understand what this song was about, I surely could relate to its first line.  It wasn&#8217;t what I&#8217;d planned on doing&#8211;but, no, I didn&#8217;t want to end up like Bonnie and Clyde.  I&#8217;d seen that movie too.</p>
<p>Stand fast, Tom&#8211;it&#8217;s a genuine 10.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 15:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad I&#039;m not the only one who remembers the Maxell adverts! I recalled that there were other ones, but I couldn&#039;t have told you which songs they were. I wonder if that, in itself, tells you something about the power of this song? Or maybe it was just reinforced by the other advert whose name a dare not mention - after all, I&#039;m of an age to remember Musical Youth singing &#039;007&#039;. 

The other memory I have connected to this song is that my parents went to a big university reunion where Desmond performed and said he was excellent. He seemed to see the funny side of all the &quot;baked beans for breakfast&quot; gags too.

I don&#039;t have the sort of personal love for this song that would make me give it a 10 - but I can&#039;t argue against it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;m not the only one who remembers the Maxell adverts! I recalled that there were other ones, but I couldn&#8217;t have told you which songs they were. I wonder if that, in itself, tells you something about the power of this song? Or maybe it was just reinforced by the other advert whose name a dare not mention &#8211; after all, I&#8217;m of an age to remember Musical Youth singing &#8217;007&#8242;. </p>
<p>The other memory I have connected to this song is that my parents went to a big university reunion where Desmond performed and said he was excellent. He seemed to see the funny side of all the &#8220;baked beans for breakfast&#8221; gags too.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have the sort of personal love for this song that would make me give it a 10 &#8211; but I can&#8217;t argue against it.</p>
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		<title>By: blount</title>
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		<dc:creator>blount</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 22:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he hates soul! we&#039;ve established this!</description>
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		<title>By: Mark Gamon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Gamon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 21:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And you only gave Grapevine a 9?</description>
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		<title>By: koganbot</title>
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		<dc:creator>koganbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 20:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Casino, it wasn&#039;t a mere comparison: For Dekker and his prime audience, &quot;The Israelites&quot; made a very up-to-date religous reference. This is from Wikipedia:

&lt;i&gt;Rastafarians believe that the black races are the true Children of Israel, or Israelites, as they like to call themselves. Using the Bible they also conclude that Haile Selassie of Ethiopia is the returned messiah who will lead the world&#039;s peoples of African descent into a promised land of full emancipation and divine justice.

One Rasta sect, called the Twelve Tribes of Israel, imposes a metaphysical system whereby Aries is Reuben, Aquarius is Joseph, etc. With his famous early reggae song The Israelites Desmond Dekker immortalised the Rastafarian concept of themselves as the Children of Israel.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Casino, it wasn&#8217;t a mere comparison: For Dekker and his prime audience, &#8220;The Israelites&#8221; made a very up-to-date religous reference. This is from Wikipedia:</p>
<p><i>Rastafarians believe that the black races are the true Children of Israel, or Israelites, as they like to call themselves. Using the Bible they also conclude that Haile Selassie of Ethiopia is the returned messiah who will lead the world&#8217;s peoples of African descent into a promised land of full emancipation and divine justice.</p>
<p>One Rasta sect, called the Twelve Tribes of Israel, imposes a metaphysical system whereby Aries is Reuben, Aquarius is Joseph, etc. With his famous early reggae song The Israelites Desmond Dekker immortalised the Rastafarian concept of themselves as the Children of Israel.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Casino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctor Casino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 19:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Classic song in all ways.  I first heard it in the car with my mother sometime in the late 90&#039;s; I remember her turning up the volume excitedly, declaring something to the effect of &quot;This is one of the weird ones, you&#039;ll like this!&quot;  Yet another track that, if it was ever in regular US radio rotation, was gone by the time I was growing up.  But what a fantastic song.  If I heard more reggae that reminded me of this I&#039;d be a fan - there&#039;s something I don&#039;t hear elsewhere in &quot;Israelites&quot;&#039;s rolling shuffle forward, some sort of weird momentum where once you wind the song up it never hits a beat that would really be the logical place to stop.  The general sound pallette is part of this too, the way everything sounds something between muffled, underwater, and cavernous.  The only point of connection I can think to make is to something like &quot;Sincerely,&quot; by the Moonglows, where the rawness of the recording combines with the spareness of the arrangement to create a sound that inevitably ends up being described as &quot;timeless.&quot;  

And yet - is there something more timely to &quot;Israelites&quot;?  Tom and others are talking about racial tensions in Britain at the time - but what about that country over in the Middle East, the one &lt;i&gt;named&lt;/i&gt; Israel?  Certainly in the headlines in this time period.  Obviously Dekker is drawing on a gospel/Biblical/spiritual tradition; his character is comparing his sufferings to those of the ancient Israelites.  But did he also strike some more contemporary nerve?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Classic song in all ways.  I first heard it in the car with my mother sometime in the late 90&#8217;s; I remember her turning up the volume excitedly, declaring something to the effect of &#8220;This is one of the weird ones, you&#8217;ll like this!&#8221;  Yet another track that, if it was ever in regular US radio rotation, was gone by the time I was growing up.  But what a fantastic song.  If I heard more reggae that reminded me of this I&#8217;d be a fan &#8211; there&#8217;s something I don&#8217;t hear elsewhere in &#8220;Israelites&#8221;&#8217;s rolling shuffle forward, some sort of weird momentum where once you wind the song up it never hits a beat that would really be the logical place to stop.  The general sound pallette is part of this too, the way everything sounds something between muffled, underwater, and cavernous.  The only point of connection I can think to make is to something like &#8220;Sincerely,&#8221; by the Moonglows, where the rawness of the recording combines with the spareness of the arrangement to create a sound that inevitably ends up being described as &#8220;timeless.&#8221;  </p>
<p>And yet &#8211; is there something more timely to &#8220;Israelites&#8221;?  Tom and others are talking about racial tensions in Britain at the time &#8211; but what about that country over in the Middle East, the one <i>named</i> Israel?  Certainly in the headlines in this time period.  Obviously Dekker is drawing on a gospel/Biblical/spiritual tradition; his character is comparing his sufferings to those of the ancient Israelites.  But did he also strike some more contemporary nerve?</p>
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		<title>By: koganbot</title>
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		<dc:creator>koganbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 18:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Israelites&quot; sounds less generically Jamaican than most other reggae, including (the even better, in my opinion) &quot;007 Shanty Town,&quot; whose beauty is more comforting to me for being less exquisite. (If that makes any sense.) &quot;Israelites&quot; is one of those songs like David Banner&#039;s &quot;Cadillac On 22s&quot; that defies taxonomy. It isn&#039;t that you can&#039;t categorize them so much as the they still seem odd for their category.

Mark&#039;s on the money in regard to the &quot;churchiness,&quot; though I&#039;d add that - for me, anyway - it&#039;s not &quot;churchiness,&quot; as you&#039;d get (or I&#039;d get) through church or through what&#039;s generally thought of as &quot;gospel,&quot; whose secularized spawn was all over the radio either in the form of the vocal harmony soul groups or the call-and-response shouters. Rather it&#039;s the sound of &quot;spirituals&quot; you&#039;d find on &quot;folk&quot; anthologies. So the sound of the &quot;Israelites,&quot; when I heard it - managed to miss its run on the Top 40, so didn&#039;t run across the record until late &#039;70s - did feel familiar to me, as I&#039;d been a folk fan as a wee &#039;un. I think of &quot;Motherless Child&quot; and &quot;Wayfarin&#039; Stranger&quot; as prototypes for me of the &quot;spiritual&quot; sound, though come to think of it neither is all that spiritual. I&#039;d known &quot;Wayfarin&#039; Stranger&quot; from an old Burl Ives 78 owned by my parents.

I think there &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; a tendency in Jamaica&#039;s sound and particularly Bob Marley&#039;s towards melodies that resemble &quot;spirituals,&quot; which may be why reggae in general and Marley in particular did better among North Americans than did other Caribbean musics. Reggae took a while to score in the United States, however. As far as I know, &quot;Israelites&quot; was one of only two Jamaican songs to hit in the U.S. in the &#039;60s, the other being &quot;My Boy Lollipop.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Israelites&#8221; sounds less generically Jamaican than most other reggae, including (the even better, in my opinion) &#8220;007 Shanty Town,&#8221; whose beauty is more comforting to me for being less exquisite. (If that makes any sense.) &#8220;Israelites&#8221; is one of those songs like David Banner&#8217;s &#8220;Cadillac On 22s&#8221; that defies taxonomy. It isn&#8217;t that you can&#8217;t categorize them so much as the they still seem odd for their category.</p>
<p>Mark&#8217;s on the money in regard to the &#8220;churchiness,&#8221; though I&#8217;d add that &#8211; for me, anyway &#8211; it&#8217;s not &#8220;churchiness,&#8221; as you&#8217;d get (or I&#8217;d get) through church or through what&#8217;s generally thought of as &#8220;gospel,&#8221; whose secularized spawn was all over the radio either in the form of the vocal harmony soul groups or the call-and-response shouters. Rather it&#8217;s the sound of &#8220;spirituals&#8221; you&#8217;d find on &#8220;folk&#8221; anthologies. So the sound of the &#8220;Israelites,&#8221; when I heard it &#8211; managed to miss its run on the Top 40, so didn&#8217;t run across the record until late &#8217;70s &#8211; did feel familiar to me, as I&#8217;d been a folk fan as a wee &#8216;un. I think of &#8220;Motherless Child&#8221; and &#8220;Wayfarin&#8217; Stranger&#8221; as prototypes for me of the &#8220;spiritual&#8221; sound, though come to think of it neither is all that spiritual. I&#8217;d known &#8220;Wayfarin&#8217; Stranger&#8221; from an old Burl Ives 78 owned by my parents.</p>
<p>I think there <i>is</i> a tendency in Jamaica&#8217;s sound and particularly Bob Marley&#8217;s towards melodies that resemble &#8220;spirituals,&#8221; which may be why reggae in general and Marley in particular did better among North Americans than did other Caribbean musics. Reggae took a while to score in the United States, however. As far as I know, &#8220;Israelites&#8221; was one of only two Jamaican songs to hit in the U.S. in the &#8217;60s, the other being &#8220;My Boy Lollipop.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 18:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first encounter woth reggae was the soundtrack to &quot; The Harder They Come &quot; and really never connected that Desmond Decker with the Israelite song.

Wolfe : if you want some roots shanty-town reggae, the soundtrack to The Harder They Come &quot; is a great sampler .....with many of the songs now listed as classics</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first encounter woth reggae was the soundtrack to &#8221; The Harder They Come &#8221; and really never connected that Desmond Decker with the Israelite song.</p>
<p>Wolfe : if you want some roots shanty-town reggae, the soundtrack to The Harder They Come &#8221; is a great sampler &#8230;..with many of the songs now listed as classics</p>
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		<title>By: blount</title>
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		<dc:creator>blount</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 16:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when i was a little kid i used to get this mixed up with brenton wood&#039;s &#039;oogum boogum&#039;!</description>
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		<title>By: wwolfe</title>
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		<dc:creator>wwolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 16:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first time I remember hearing this was in the movie &quot;Drugstore Cowboy.&quot;  It was one of those records I bought and played about ten times straight.  To me, the menace is in the understatement of the guitar, drums, and the precise manner in which Dekker enunciates each syllable: the accumulated effect is like the sound of a  straight razor being sharpened on a leather strop.

When Dekker died recently, the obits were the first time I became aware that he&#039;d had a long and important career before and after this song.  (In America, he was a one-hit wonder.)  Does anyone have any suggestions for a CD collection that would be a good starting point to learning about the rest iof his music?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first time I remember hearing this was in the movie &#8220;Drugstore Cowboy.&#8221;  It was one of those records I bought and played about ten times straight.  To me, the menace is in the understatement of the guitar, drums, and the precise manner in which Dekker enunciates each syllable: the accumulated effect is like the sound of a  straight razor being sharpened on a leather strop.</p>
<p>When Dekker died recently, the obits were the first time I became aware that he&#8217;d had a long and important career before and after this song.  (In America, he was a one-hit wonder.)  Does anyone have any suggestions for a CD collection that would be a good starting point to learning about the rest iof his music?</p>
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		<title>By: rosie</title>
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		<dc:creator>rosie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 15:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Radio 1 was launched, it came with a commitment to &#039;live music&#039; - ie keeping BBC house musicians gainfully employed.  So every so often what you&#039;d get wasn&#039;t the recording of the moment, but an utterly cringeworthy &#039;cover&#039; by a studio singer with orchestra.

I think they&#039;d given up by 1969 though, hadn&#039;t they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Radio 1 was launched, it came with a commitment to &#8216;live music&#8217; &#8211; ie keeping BBC house musicians gainfully employed.  So every so often what you&#8217;d get wasn&#8217;t the recording of the moment, but an utterly cringeworthy &#8216;cover&#8217; by a studio singer with orchestra.</p>
<p>I think they&#8217;d given up by 1969 though, hadn&#8217;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: Marcello Carlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcello Carlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 15:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only the nice, melodic stuff with Johnny Arthey&#039;s Willesden Sound string overdubs.</description>
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		<title>By: Dadaismus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dadaismus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blackburn didn&#039;t like reggae I think</description>
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		<title>By: Marcello Carlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcello Carlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blimey, yes, I had forgotten about Dave Cash and his hilarious sidekick Microbe (&quot;Groovy baby&quot;).  Stuart Henry and Emperor Rosko as well - actually there were loads!

*and Kenny Everett, though I don&#039;t recall him being big on reggae*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blimey, yes, I had forgotten about Dave Cash and his hilarious sidekick Microbe (&#8220;Groovy baby&#8221;).  Stuart Henry and Emperor Rosko as well &#8211; actually there were loads!</p>
<p>*and Kenny Everett, though I don&#8217;t recall him being big on reggae*</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I don&#039;t think Israelites screams &quot;racial tension&quot; - it&#039;s more that there&#039;s a hint of menace to it, and within the hint of menace there&#039;s a hint of racial tension.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I don&#8217;t think Israelites screams &#8220;racial tension&#8221; &#8211; it&#8217;s more that there&#8217;s a hint of menace to it, and within the hint of menace there&#8217;s a hint of racial tension.</p>
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		<title>By: Erithian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erithian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, those moments when the DJ on the chart rundown couldn’t even read out the title were great, weren’t they?  Wings’ “Give Ireland Back To The Irish” was a bizarre example.  Then there was the time when Tony Blackburn, contempt oozing from every syllable, announced “Too Drunk To F---“ as “a record by a group choosing to call themselves The Dead Kennedys”.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, those moments when the DJ on the chart rundown couldn’t even read out the title were great, weren’t they?  Wings’ “Give Ireland Back To The Irish” was a bizarre example.  Then there was the time when Tony Blackburn, contempt oozing from every syllable, announced “Too Drunk To F&#8212;“ as “a record by a group choosing to call themselves The Dead Kennedys”.</p>
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		<title>By: rosie</title>
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		<dc:creator>rosie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 13:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I was at school when the JY prog was on!  I&#039;m thinking more of the ones that were on when I got home from school - Dave Cash, I think, and David Symonds. Hey, it&#039;;s amazing the forgotten names you remember when you put your mind to it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I was at school when the JY prog was on!  I&#8217;m thinking more of the ones that were on when I got home from school &#8211; Dave Cash, I think, and David Symonds. Hey, it&#8217;;s amazing the forgotten names you remember when you put your mind to it!</p>
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		<title>By: Marcello Carlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcello Carlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 13:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not on the JY prog they didn&#039;t.</description>
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		<title>By: rosie</title>
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		<dc:creator>rosie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 13:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Marcus&#039;s memory is not entirely accurate when he says that &#039;Liquidator&#039; and &#039;Long Shot Kick De Bucket&#039; were not getting airplay on Radio 1.  I remember those tracks very clearly and they seemed to get a lot of play.

But now my own thoughts about that time are crystallising a little.  This - when I was 14 going on 15 - was the time when I found myself for the first time getting embroiled in popular tribal culture.  And my culture was the one that hung about the record department and listened to the Velvets, Leonard Cohen, the Incredible String Band and other exotica.  The other side was the skinheads, and ironically it was they (and not young black kids, not in suburban Hertfordshire anyway) who had those as their anthems - so we didn&#039;t touch them! 

All the same, &lt;i&gt;Israelites&lt;/i&gt; stood out as something fresh and different and crossed over tribal alliances, no doubt this was why it was such a big hit.  I really don&#039;t think a sense of racial tension had much to do with it; it was simply a good song that stood out.  The lyric really did have a reputation for incomprehensibility and you are almost certainly right, Tom, when you point out that we weren&#039;t used to hearing Jamaican patois in those days.

A 10 is fair enough, although I&#039;m a tad miffed that this should get one rather than &lt;i&gt;Grapevine&lt;/i&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Marcus&#8217;s memory is not entirely accurate when he says that &#8216;Liquidator&#8217; and &#8216;Long Shot Kick De Bucket&#8217; were not getting airplay on Radio 1.  I remember those tracks very clearly and they seemed to get a lot of play.</p>
<p>But now my own thoughts about that time are crystallising a little.  This &#8211; when I was 14 going on 15 &#8211; was the time when I found myself for the first time getting embroiled in popular tribal culture.  And my culture was the one that hung about the record department and listened to the Velvets, Leonard Cohen, the Incredible String Band and other exotica.  The other side was the skinheads, and ironically it was they (and not young black kids, not in suburban Hertfordshire anyway) who had those as their anthems &#8211; so we didn&#8217;t touch them! </p>
<p>All the same, <i>Israelites</i> stood out as something fresh and different and crossed over tribal alliances, no doubt this was why it was such a big hit.  I really don&#8217;t think a sense of racial tension had much to do with it; it was simply a good song that stood out.  The lyric really did have a reputation for incomprehensibility and you are almost certainly right, Tom, when you point out that we weren&#8217;t used to hearing Jamaican patois in those days.</p>
<p>A 10 is fair enough, although I&#8217;m a tad miffed that this should get one rather than <i>Grapevine</i>!</p>
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		<title>By: pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</title>
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		<dc:creator>pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i grew up very rural and fairly solitary as a child -- my parents were both big beatles fans but we never listened to the radio, and pop as a WHOLE was a bit of a mystery to me till i was about 15, when i suddenly noticed it was a big deal to everyone except me (but bcz i had a nice voice when wee i was in choirs and stuff all through this time and knew a lot about classical music) 

so age 15-19 i went on an insane crash-course of catching up -- including polling all my chums LJ-style about &quot;what should mark s listen to in rock&quot;!! -- but during most of this time, a lot of very popular pop and rock was still quite exotic to me 

&quot;israelites&quot; when i encountered it (i would think 77 or 78) really was an unusual case of &quot;hey i know what&#039;s going on here!&quot; words-wise</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i grew up very rural and fairly solitary as a child &#8212; my parents were both big beatles fans but we never listened to the radio, and pop as a WHOLE was a bit of a mystery to me till i was about 15, when i suddenly noticed it was a big deal to everyone except me (but bcz i had a nice voice when wee i was in choirs and stuff all through this time and knew a lot about classical music) </p>
<p>so age 15-19 i went on an insane crash-course of catching up &#8212; including polling all my chums LJ-style about &#8220;what should mark s listen to in rock&#8221;!! &#8212; but during most of this time, a lot of very popular pop and rock was still quite exotic to me </p>
<p>&#8220;israelites&#8221; when i encountered it (i would think 77 or 78) really was an unusual case of &#8220;hey i know what&#8217;s going on here!&#8221; words-wise</p>
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		<title>By: Dadaismus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dadaismus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, now you come to mention it, I remember feeling that there was a church-y religious feel to this song but, to me, that only added to its weirdness... as a pop song I mean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, now you come to mention it, I remember feeling that there was a church-y religious feel to this song but, to me, that only added to its weirdness&#8230; as a pop song I mean</p>
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