Comments on: Must we throw this filth at our fringe kids? http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2006/08/must-we-throw-this-filth-at-our-fringe-kids/ Lollards in the high church of low culture Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:34:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Steve Mannion http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2006/08/must-we-throw-this-filth-at-our-fringe-kids/#comment-27877 Steve Mannion Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:54:09 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2006/08/must-we-throw-this-filth-at-our-fringe-kids/#comment-27877 But it does seem that there is a widespred view held out there (or at least held up by media) that the method is as important as the produce. It's like the old 'Real Rock vs Manufactured Pop' argument really. Mueck being the relatively trad/conventional artist that 'everyman' can relate to (with the sense of that being uber-important upheld in the process) in this instance. The only problem I can see here is the reference to 'plebs/commoners' as a generalised example of people who don't get/like highbrow art. But I do not have first-hand experience of my expectations actually being confounded in this way i.e. I've not met someone I might expect to not like that kind of Art actually like it! But this isn't saying much. But it does seem that there is a widespred view held out there (or at least held up by media) that the method is as important as the produce. It’s like the old ‘Real Rock vs Manufactured Pop’ argument really. Mueck being the relatively trad/conventional artist that ‘everyman’ can relate to (with the sense of that being uber-important upheld in the process) in this instance.

The only problem I can see here is the reference to ‘plebs/commoners’ as a generalised example of people who don’t get/like highbrow art. But I do not have first-hand experience of my expectations actually being confounded in this way i.e. I’ve not met someone I might expect to not like that kind of Art actually like it! But this isn’t saying much.

]]> By: Marcello Carlin http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2006/08/must-we-throw-this-filth-at-our-fringe-kids/#comment-27862 Marcello Carlin Mon, 14 Aug 2006 11:32:07 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2006/08/must-we-throw-this-filth-at-our-fringe-kids/#comment-27862 BBC's idea of WORK and CRAFT = toothbrush-holing factory in Balham. BBC’s idea of WORK and CRAFT = toothbrush-holing factory in Balham.

]]> By: alext http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2006/08/must-we-throw-this-filth-at-our-fringe-kids/#comment-27782 alext Sat, 12 Aug 2006 14:08:35 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2006/08/must-we-throw-this-filth-at-our-fringe-kids/#comment-27782 Scrap the BBC! Scrap the BBC!

]]> By: Dave http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2006/08/must-we-throw-this-filth-at-our-fringe-kids/#comment-27780 Dave Sat, 12 Aug 2006 12:41:42 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2006/08/must-we-throw-this-filth-at-our-fringe-kids/#comment-27780 How very dare you call Burnsey out dated. He's a fucking genius. How very dare you call Burnsey out dated. He’s a fucking genius.

]]> By: pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2006/08/must-we-throw-this-filth-at-our-fringe-kids/#comment-27776 pˆnk s lord sükråt cunctør Sat, 12 Aug 2006 10:20:15 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2006/08/must-we-throw-this-filth-at-our-fringe-kids/#comment-27776 a fooptimist speaks: THEY SHOULD HAVE SENT WRIGHTIE! a fooptimist speaks: THEY SHOULD HAVE SENT WRIGHTIE!

]]> By: CarsmileSteve http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2006/08/must-we-throw-this-filth-at-our-fringe-kids/#comment-27775 CarsmileSteve Sat, 12 Aug 2006 10:08:22 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2006/08/must-we-throw-this-filth-at-our-fringe-kids/#comment-27775 ALSO, "apologies" for the "abundance" of "scare" "quotes"... ALSO, “apologies” for the “abundance” of “scare” “quotes”…

]]> By: CarsmileSteve http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2006/08/must-we-throw-this-filth-at-our-fringe-kids/#comment-27774 CarsmileSteve Sat, 12 Aug 2006 10:07:22 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2006/08/must-we-throw-this-filth-at-our-fringe-kids/#comment-27774 Oh actually, i think i've misrepresented what they were saying a touch. They were saying that <s>the plebs</s> anyone could get mueck's work, unlike all that <i>WEIRD</i> stuff, rather than mueck's work being particularly deep or owt. this was "explained" by saying that one could see the WORK and CRAFT that had gone into the sculptures which is what the commoners like apparently, implying that eg shark in a box etcetc didn't fit this pattern and thus were disliked. Oh actually, i think i’ve misrepresented what they were saying a touch.

They were saying that the plebs anyone could get mueck’s work, unlike all that WEIRD stuff, rather than mueck’s work being particularly deep or owt. this was “explained” by saying that one could see the WORK and CRAFT that had gone into the sculptures which is what the commoners like apparently, implying that eg shark in a box etcetc didn’t fit this pattern and thus were disliked.

]]> By: Marcello Carlin http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2006/08/must-we-throw-this-filth-at-our-fringe-kids/#comment-27772 Marcello Carlin Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:58:41 +0000 http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2006/08/must-we-throw-this-filth-at-our-fringe-kids/#comment-27772 Yes, this type of thinking is exactly what I was going on about apropos John Harris on Beefheart in the Grauniad. I don't actually see how anyone even semi-sentient couldn't "get" exactly what Ron Mueck does. Thank heavens I watched Carol Vorderman on The Friday Night Project instead. Yes, this type of thinking is exactly what I was going on about apropos John Harris on Beefheart in the Grauniad. I don’t actually see how anyone even semi-sentient couldn’t “get” exactly what Ron Mueck does. Thank heavens I watched Carol Vorderman on The Friday Night Project instead.

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