Comments on: YOU SAD BASTARD! – Carter Reconsidered https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter Lollards in the high church of low culture Mon, 15 May 2023 22:54:53 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Nick Heath https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-3#comment-2367700 Tue, 22 Oct 2019 07:35:04 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-2367700 An interesting read. I stumbled across Carter just after 101 Damnations came out. I think someone said they were like Faith No More. I suppose the only similarity was that they had energy. Seeing Carter live was amazing, the whole crowd was WITH them. I did my one and only stage dive with Carter. They went stratospheric when 30 Something came and I tried to explain to my friends where i worked (HMV Trocadero in London) how huge they were.
Then they did the Bloodsport For All gig at HMV Oxford Circus and the place was TRASHED. You couldn’t ignore them.
I felt the same as the author about 1992 The Love Album, and to be honest I still do. Those first two albums were amazing. But after that the joke and the energy wore off a bit. And I moved on to jungle dance music anyway.

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By: weej https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-3#comment-2297401 Thu, 25 Oct 2018 11:49:24 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-2297401 Back in 2002 Carter’s formula may have been the antithesis of everything popular and/or getting critical respect, but here in 2018 I reckon the zeitgeist has somehow managed to make its way back towards them. First we had the Sleaford Mods bringing back the whole “shouting about issues over a drum machine” thing, and now the biggest new band of the year are Idles, whose lyrics read exactly like something a woke Jimbob would write in 2018.

Evidence:
https://genius.com/Idles-great-lyrics
https://genius.com/Idles-im-scum-lyrics
https://genius.com/Idles-well-done-lyrics

Still don’t think this is likely to lead to a Carter revival, but who knows?

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By: Simo https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-3#comment-2259016 Sun, 29 Jul 2018 13:08:07 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-2259016 Yeah the author of this article is a bit confused. I dont think Jim and fruity were trying to be anything, but what they were is excellent.

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By: Tommy Mack https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-3#comment-1632470 Fri, 14 Aug 2015 09:46:54 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-1632470 Isn’t it more that Radiohead fans can dismiss unbelievers as too simplistic or impatient to get it while Carter fans suspect on some level that they might be the silly ones. (FWIW I love selected songs by both groups without really considering myself a Fan, capital F of either)

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By: Phil https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-3#comment-1632449 Fri, 14 Aug 2015 08:15:45 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-1632449 The difference is that Radiohead fans know that nobody else takes Radiohead seriously, and they (we) don’t care – it’s all part of life’s rich, dark, miserable pageant, and also quite funny in a way that you just have to get, I can’t really explain it.

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By: JakartaUSM https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-3#comment-1632400 Fri, 14 Aug 2015 05:24:55 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-1632400 I got into Carter late through arguably their hardest album to get into – Post Historic Monsters. Went backwards through the catalogue and forward to seeing them on Salisbury on The World without Dave tour. My comment then, from a position of loving them, is how is Jim Bob not given the same sort of credit for his lyrics, and the rhythm of the delivery that Alex Turner is for the Arctics. For me Turner is sublime in his word play, but my thought when I heard the Arctics first (Fav worst nightmare), was Carter was doing this 15 years ago. Jimbob wrote about issues, Turner about day to day life…

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By: Martin https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-3#comment-1506563 Wed, 26 Nov 2014 08:56:38 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-1506563 I am a Radiohead fan !

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By: Tom https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-3#comment-1506344 Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:46:52 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-1506344 The articles on this site poking fun at Radiohead have utterly failed to get 70 comments, which makes me think Carter’s fans do take them a TEENY bit seriously.

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By: Martin https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-3#comment-1506290 Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:18:16 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-1506290 I don`t share the view of the person writing about his view on Carter, you either like their music or you don`t. I`m not interested if a band are fashionable or not i`m not that shallow. These so called journalists just seem to like the sound of their own words when read back to them. I always took Carter for what they were which was great kick ass rock & roll band who were a great live band. At the end of the day i had 80 odd great nights out seeing them. That`s all that matters to me ! Lighten up & stop reading so much into them, if you want to do that then do it on Radiohead or the like, who take themselves very seriously.

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By: Andrew Farrell https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-3#comment-1497438 Thu, 06 Nov 2014 13:17:42 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-1497438 They’re unrevived in part because they won’t go away! There’s another “final ever” gig in Brixton the week after next.

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By: Tom https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-3#comment-1497383 Thu, 06 Nov 2014 11:08:52 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-1497383 I am not surprised Carter fans tend not to like this (very old!) piece, which is a bit glib in places – their lyrics are better than I admitted, and I should have written the bit about “Only Living Boy”‘s open-heartedness to sound less sneery.

But I think most people have That Band they were into when they were 17 who seem a bit awkward in later life, and Carter happened to be mine. Most of the article is being deliberately less flattering to its writer than to the band.

(They ARE an interesting proposition, too – resolutely unrevived even now and SO big at the time. I’m really looking forward to Marcello’s TPL take on 1992)

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By: Mark G https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-3#comment-1497367 Thu, 06 Nov 2014 10:27:27 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-1497367 Wow Simon, did you even understand the article? And your memory is failing you, they didn’t punch Philip Schofield, they rugby tackled him. The fact that the writer is spending so much effort weighing things up means he’s considering them, not blindly shouting “YOU FAT BASTARD” at bus stops at fat people, in tribute.

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By: Simon https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-3#comment-1497169 Thu, 06 Nov 2014 00:02:54 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-1497169 Wow… this is a horrible and cynical article. Cant believe this is linked form their Wikipage. Carter were never trying to be cool… they were a 90’s punk band, doing things completely different and in their own way. They are truly individual… and unmistakable in their sound. They could have easily put together a more credible band/image for themselves but they chose a different path. Despite the fact that the music press have sadly written them out of music history, they were far more successful than many of the other ‘cool’ bands of the time and had a lot more substance about them. How many true indie bands achieved a number 1 album in a time where record sales were highly contested, had several appearances on Top of the pops and punched Phil Schofield on live TV. They had something truly unique to say to say that was in no way embarrassing if you care about substance over style.

The fact the writer is spending so much effort weighing things up and considering whether carter are worthy of being like by them is pretty sad.

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By: Keene https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-3#comment-1192590 Thu, 15 Aug 2013 21:27:14 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-1192590 Such a jaded article about Carter. I got lucky (not quite lucky enough), and became a fan when 30 Something was out (before 1992 The Love Album). I was instantly hooked – they had crazily perfect lyrics, two guitars and a drum machine.

The first Carter gig I went to was at the Barrowlands in Glasgow, and oh my god – that was crazy (Love Album Tour). They played all the big songs from all albums (and several that were only bsides), and just rocked that place. I was right in the front center, and I can honestly say that I came out of that gig covered in more beer and lager than sweat – and I danced wildly for 2 hours straight. That was the Friday night show, and I went to the Saturday night show (same venue) too. I took a change of tshirt for that one, and it was just as great as the 1st.

So, retrospectively, how do I feel about them? When I listen to the music, it brings a tear to my eye, recalling the finer moments in life with Carter as my soundtrack. Wish I could have gone to the reunion shows, but I’m in a whole different country now, and didnt find out in time. Would I go back and do it all again? Hell, yes. Not even a question. When I think about the music, I remember it fondly. My kids also went wild to it when I played some of the songs for them (also young).

In all, I went to see them about 12-15 times, the best was the first couple of times in Glasgow. They always rocked out the venues. Best gigs ever.

I wish that some of the haters could have avoided the ‘its cool / its not cool’ crap, because even if Carter sang about political events and issues of the time, it didnt matter, what matters is how it made you feel, how you could just dance without caring, sing along as loud as you could, and live that moment – truly live that moment. I had so many of those, and wouldnt surrender them for anything.

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By: Thomas https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-3#comment-1169481 Wed, 31 Jul 2013 20:21:39 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-1169481 Well, it was November 1st, 1993 in Dortmund. I was 22 ýears old and wanted to go into the Disco Musiczirkus in Dortmund, Germany.

Before the regular Disconight began, there still was a concert from a band I’ve never heard from. I was a little bit to early this evening, so I’ve heared the last 3 songs which were played by the band … and I was electrified by this amazing sound.

I looked at the tour posters and have seen that this great band was “Carter USM”. This was a key moment for me and from this day on I’m a fan of them.

I’ve seen them 1995 3 times in Germany and had some nice conversations with them backstage after the shows.

I LOVE Jimbob and Fruitbad for that what they gave me with their music.

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By: Angeljuice https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-3#comment-1143530 Thu, 16 May 2013 15:42:05 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-1143530 Loved Carter, still do, always will. Love Jimbobs work too, ‘Goffam’ is a favorite of mine. To be honest, I don’t think they ever wanted mega-fame, just as happy making a living doing what they love. Really down to earth, nice people.
Their lyrics, puns and wordplay are very unique, and you could take any song in their catalogue and find real lyrical gems.

“There’s a free pair of flares with every hip-replacement, just take the stairs to the bargain basement!” a metaphor for modern life if you ask me.

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By: Alan not logged in https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-3#comment-1102550 Sat, 15 Dec 2012 20:13:55 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-1102550 FORGET ABOUT YOUR HAIRCUT, TOM

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By: Pablo Quema https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-3#comment-1102410 Sat, 15 Dec 2012 02:33:16 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-1102410 Tom, if you rate punk bands on the basis of how cool and fashionable they are, you’re always going to miss the point. Carter were lo-fi and angry because they were a punk band, and they stuck with the mindset and technology they started out with – they were very honest and level-headed, despite several years of highly distracting fame and fortune. I’m glad you acknowledge that they did sound good, for all their trashiness (I like the trashiness, personally), but I’m nonplussed that you criticise them for being relentlessly political, and then criticise them for writing a song about how much they disliked Kravitz & D’Arby. Bit of a double standard there mate.

As for the main thrust of your piece – Carter didn’t disappear to the people who genuinely appreciated them, they only disappeared to people like you who hide musical tastes for fear of being deemed uncool; people who listen to music because it’s fashionable, not because they enjoy it. People who feel guilty about enjoying a certain type of music bore me intensely. Musical taste isn’t about what other people think, it’s about what gives you a kick, and guilt should never enter your mind. The word you want here isn’t ‘guilty’, it’s ’embarrassed’ – you became embarrassed to like Carter when they stopped being flavour of the month, because you were more bothered about other people’s perception of your musical taste than you were about actually enjoying music itself. What I get from this piece is that you don’t like Carter any more because you’re a hipster, and your perception of musical quality is based on popularity first and foremost.

I suggest you have another listen to 101 Damnations, forget about your haircut for a while, and accept that two untrained South London lads did remarkably groovy things with a couple of guitars, a drum machine and a sampler. Alternatively, you could count up the ‘for’ and ‘against’ in the comments on here, and realise that Carter are in fact still popular amongst people who care…

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By: Mad dog https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-3#comment-936903 Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:44:52 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-936903 MURDOCH YR A FANNY u ain’t got a clue here’s 10p go buy 1 FUD BOY Grrrrrrrrrrr

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By: LiSA b https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-664292 Sat, 05 Dec 2009 01:53:30 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-664292 GET over it att all! :live your live as YOU SEE IT! Believe me, I’ve had a tramatic head injuria ( brain, actualy). Live your life as YOU want it, not as others say it SHOULD be!!
:Love you all!
-Magic ( I won’t tellyou whu that’s my nickna,name…use your imaginatin! “-()

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By: Andy Mac https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-661350 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:43:26 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-661350 Cracking best band in the world but I’m glad they only get together for the odd reunion now… I think ‘I blame the Government’ was a bit of a nail in the coffin, still a decent album but certainly not Carter at their best. So, as gutted as I was at the time with Carter’s curtain finally coming down, I couldn’t imagine my current CD collection without the genius of Jim’s Super Stereoworld (which is loved by everyone that I’ve ever played it to) and all the incredible material that Jim Bob has released as a solo artist…

Carter still gets played a lot in my house and there is loads of it to get through but what gets me these days is looking forward to hearing new material from Jim Bob and listening to his numerous albums that are already out there waiting to be heard by the masses, the man’s a legend and deserves to be selling Brixton out on his solo shows… If you haven’t heard the album Angelstrike then go out and find it and play it LOUD, it is incredible, as are all his other albums

Long Live Jim Bob cause I wouldn’t fancy learning to live in a world without him (excuse the pun!!). When you listen to the stuff on the radio at the minute from the ‘indie’ scene I can’t compare anything to the quality that Jim Bob constantly puts out… Don’t get me wrong, there is good music at the minute, just not on the radio and it really gets to me which is why I’m writing this, I just need to get it off my chest in the hope that I don’t get so annoyed in work anymore listening to Radio 1 though I doubt it… maybe its time to give in and learn to love Snow Patrol and Coldplay

Maybe Not….

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By: Robert Steed https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-660326 Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:16:51 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-660326 I’m not going to read this article – I’ve seen enough to know not to. “I wouldn’t recommend them to you – a lot of the time they were rubbish” sums up this person’s lack of clue! Very little of the time were they rubbish. Carter USM were the band that changed my life, and were rare unique genius. I don’t care what anyone else thinks or says!

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By: Hazeley https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-608969 Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:29:09 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-608969 Greatest band ever and the gigs the last 2 years have been unbelievable. 2 more in London this Autumn – they’re going to play every track from the the first 4 albums.
Wasn’t sure about the solo material at first but it’s really grown on me. Some of the tracks on JimBob’s ‘A Humpty Dumpty Thing’ are superb.

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By: Sean A https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-591143 Wed, 18 Feb 2009 03:54:17 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-591143 My intro to Carter USM was on the radio in Arizona (no, not Gutterpressville). It was “Anytime, Anyplace, Anywhere”. It got a fair amount of play, but so did a lot of English singles at that time. I liked it (and still do), but in the end, I only ever bought 30 Something and 1992/The Love Album (whatever it’s called). I like both and have recommended them to select friends without reservation. I will continue to do so because I can do with a little Carter in my life every now and then. I enjoyed their wordplays and depressing lyrics. Who cares what they wore – no one won style points back then.

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By: Alexandros Kotsis https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-587976 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:26:55 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-587976 I’m from Greece, 32. i was not even 18 when they gave a gig in Athens, back in February 1995… less that 500 people in the venue… i still rememberthe final song – ENGLAND -. Jim Bob’s voice made my hair rise… i have their complete discography.

in 1997 i went to England to study thinkging: “cool, i will get the chance to see carter again”. poor me! they split just a bit later! i discovered that not too many people knew them in England, at least in Staffs uni were i studied… they were forgotten… i almost forgot them too. but every now and then i was picking up my vinyls and cds in order to listen to their songs and remember the good old days…

now, this year, i will have the chance to see them again… in november. i will travel to London just for that… no way i miss it!

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By: simon https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-549113 Mon, 24 Nov 2008 21:46:22 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-549113 yes m8 my daughter’s 8 and i took her to the brixton show on 22nd nov. Had to go in the circle though. some crazy lady tried to get her to dance but shyness prevailled and possibly bewilderment. Went to the front for sheriff fatman (her favourite) and she was amazed at the crowd in the stalls, reverse stage diving. she liked emf too although she said smash were a bit loud. she wants to go again….after we’ve been downtown to get tatoos…

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By: Bernie Reeves https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-541057 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:26:52 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-541057 i love Carter but i was 1 when 101 Damnations came out and i only got into them a couple of years ago when my thirty-something brother lent me one of his CDs.

i’m going to see them Nov ’08 at Brixton but was wondering are there any Carter fans below the age of 21?

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By: Charlotte https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-539391 Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:24:22 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-539391 to be quite honest i am not a 1st generation carter fan, ive been listening to them since i was born, best friends with their daughters, their brothers best friends with my father and they are the nicest blokes i have ever met, very down to earth in tune and amaingly witty. I am 16, i love carter usm, im so glad they did a reunion because i got a chance to see them (in years i remember).

straw donkey is an amzing album and im so happy they have a reunion on the 22nd day of november the day that they shot kennedy lol…

if you dont appriciate them then your missing a screw they wrote about issues that their generated wanted to hear about. They may be forgotten but how many people idolise punk rock for their messages, well this is early 90’s idilic message rock

god love it i know i do
cant wait to jump about at the gig
xxx

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By: Jason the Unrepentant https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-499352 Sun, 14 Sep 2008 04:55:32 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-499352 Gosh.
And I quite liked Carter.
Still do.
I must be sad.

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By: Gibby https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-435928 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:43:41 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-435928 Any band that attempts to t**t Philip Schofield are instant legends, no matter what you think of their music!!!

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By: Mark G https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-425691 Thu, 22 May 2008 10:24:30 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-425691 I was on the phone to a friend when Amber (then three) waved a cassette I’d bought in Thailand (a legit EMI one! hey, the legit ones are £2, why buy dodgy pirates for £1? anyroad..) “Straw Donkey – The singles” and wanted to hear it. So I said “um, I’m not sure it’s what you expect” but put it on anyway, and the kids (i.e. including Alice, then 15 months) went totally dance crazy nuts over “Only living boy”, “Glam Rock Cops” and all points between.

I had to tell my friend “It’s not all like this you know” but actually, from that point on it was.

I did get “Worry Bomb” but it’s not right. That cassette is the bomb, not “WB” with it’s free live album (or maybe the live albums worth revisiting? ach)

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By: Jef Proudfoot https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-398178 Sat, 22 Mar 2008 20:58:42 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-398178 Murdoch is a Schofield. I love ’em to bits but didn’t automatically like everything they did. Never keen on L & T. Loved the gig at Wimbledom Library. Like (most of) their new stuff too.

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By: ross a. ferrone https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-361210 Fri, 04 Jan 2008 19:49:44 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-361210 An interesting viewpoint but remember this.Carter didnt do a Pulp & double ticket prices the minute they had a no.1 album,they respected their loyal fanbase,kept the price down & toured regularly.You also neglected to mention their many great album tracks-‘spoilsports personality’ a particular favourite of mine.Having seen them 8 times I never witnessed a poor show,they were all nothing short of brilliant.I just hope they surprise us all & do a Shed7 & announce a Greatest Hits Tour in 2008.Oh & ‘Rubbish’ was one of their finest singles-never should that word be used to describe this band!

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By: david https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-336815 Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:11:51 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-336815 I read the review with great interest. Because this is the first person who i have ever met, who ‘went off’ carter. As time goes on, certain friends of mine listen to Carter less and less frequently, but certainly when the music comes out together it is much loved and always as it always has been.
I only read the first 15-20 comments and noted that no one else ever really had enough of Carter, so now i am wondering if this review is really representing a minority of one!

It’s no surprise to me that they sold out brixton gig in quick time with little PR and being lucky enough to get one of the tickets, I can assure you that it was one hell of a gig.

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By: bottomley m.d. https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-335980 Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:01:16 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-335980 murdoch, in the words of john cooper clark,can’t hear you mate, yr mouths full of sh*t!! lol.

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By: Mark2026 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-330726 Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:42:01 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-330726 I did, and still do love ’em
Do it fruitbat!

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By: Alan https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-318030 Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:58:28 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-318030 someone on the guardian blog (Which successful bands haven’t been influential) has a ticket for the upcoming show perhaps. This just showed up on Digg too! And: Warning! Extremely long comments full of people talking absolute cock. Moderate use of the word “influence” and some graphic examples of cockfarming.

also also also, the Comics Britannia thing on BBC FOUR the other day, the episode on the 80s, covering 2000AD and Deadline, kept using the same Deadline cover – yep the Carter one as seen on Rob T’s post linked in the above comment.

dead on arrival, the carter revival.

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By: james https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-316787 Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:05:49 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-316787 I discovered Carter about 12 years ago and really got off on them. After a spell away I now listen to them and The New York Dolls mostly while driving – Carter’s Dome Sportova and their Live in Concert 1991-94 compilations belt out all the great songs, along with the NYD’s Return of the New York Dolls: Live From Royal Festival Hall, 2004.(A great album)
There is something about all that anger and rage that I find so captivating,enjoyable and therapeutic yet there is a sensitivity behind it all that is somehow very moving.

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By: Rob Townsend https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-316725 Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:33:34 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-316725 This is a good piece about a band that really dissected the indie world.

It inspired me to write an essay myself. Copy and paste this:

http://kingbobbysix.blogspot.com/2007/09/why-i-love-carter-unstoppable-sex.html

Feedback is welcomed.

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By: magic mushroom https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-309581 Sat, 01 Sep 2007 00:30:27 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-309581 get over it. enjoy the irony and naffness of the whole thing. dig out your steeleys and beg, borrow or steal a ticket to the gigs in glasgow and london and yell for 24 minutes or surfing usm for the chance to relive what it was like when you were eighteen!!!

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By: z_zadar https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-308779 Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:28:53 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-308779 Carter USM are one the few band I idologize. Yes, they may be simple and the lyrics may be shouting-political-issues, but that’s punkish. They are punk band, with beautiful pop-hard-core-punk image.
I’ll never forgive myself for not going on that Dom Sportova, Zagreb concert, and I was in town at the moment.

They may be erased from musical history, but it is legendary in some twisted way.

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By: bluemonday https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-306930 Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:46:49 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-306930 carter were never cool but they were *amazing*. i cant wait for the brixton live show later this year, it is going to be so good!

i feel a bit sorry for them for the fact they have been erased from musical history. at the time though they were massive.

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By: Thorsten M. https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-306879 Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:59:06 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-306879 I have always loved Carter USM. As a German fan it was pretty hard to get their singles, albums or even merchandise. Carter were more than just music: they were a lifestyle, the feelings of a whole generation. And, of course, they were brilliant musicians.

I’ve spent hours translating their lyrics into proper German, asking friends whose fathers served in the Rhine Army what certain puns COULD mean. I actually don’t know how many concerts I have seen. It were a whole lot – at least for Teutonic Carter maniac.

What saddens me most, is that Tom’s ugly rant willingly forgets about Jim’s wonderful voice, Les’ poignant arrangements and their breathtaking live shows.

I used to be a dedicated fan and I still am.

Unfortunately I won’t have the chance to see one of their shows this autumn, what makes me feel sad.

Love,

Thorsten xxx

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By: Lucyp https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-296327 Wed, 18 Jul 2007 23:30:22 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-296327 I am so happy to find fellow Carter USM fans. I was a massive Carter fan back in the day and i still listen to them now every so often.
Falling On A Bruise was a great song which i liked so much i named my blog after it.
I would say Worry Bomb was probably their greatest album which is a damn shame they had fallen from grace by then, The Only Looney Left In Town deserved better.

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By: Greg https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-292531 Sat, 07 Jul 2007 17:54:06 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-292531 They were the best band ever. They only had one gig in my country in 1995 to which nobody went, so they never came again – and when I heard about the reunion gig and started saving for my airplane ticket it had already sold out. So enjoy, those of you who could get tickets.

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By: sst https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-287465 Sat, 23 Jun 2007 12:53:06 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-287465 well your opinion is just a rant – makes me think they stole your wife (i am assuming you are a man) – if you don’t like them that is ok. but i never met 2 more honest down to earth blokes in a band. they never claimed to be the best, they never claimed to be cool, they were never fashionable. they laughed at themselves and even appeared in a sketch on newman and badiel about people with comic faces. i think they deserve more respect even if you don’t like the music they tried and succeeded for a good few years.

(yes i am proud to dance to the music that nobody likes.)

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By: Murdoch https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-283084 Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:26:26 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-283084 Unfortunately for me, I saw Crapper the Unlistenable Suck Machine at the Four 4 Wiz gig in March. They were as horrible and porridgey then as they ever were, although they seem to have given up on their ill-advised expermiental hair action. I forgot to say – despite my scattergunning of insults at Carter fans (they REALLY can’t dance) – that it’s my responsibility as a grumpy but fairminded old fuck to acknowledge goodness when it rears its all-too-shy pretty little head, so here goes: you will not meet kinder, more open-minded, community-spirited, supportive, intelligent and tolerant people than Carter fans. The same was true 15 years ago. How Carter ever got these people on side when Sugar gigs were full of the most annoying chin-stroking “appreciators” of music is beyond me, but there you go.

Enjoy the reunion gigs, but remember this, aging pop thirtysomethings – Jesus loves the Stooges and is at best ambivalent about Carter, although I’m fairly certain that given the choice between Carter and nails through hands, he’d say “Gimme that hammer, mate. I’ll do the job meself.”

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By: admin https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-282719 Tue, 12 Jun 2007 20:48:33 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-282719 i know of at least 2 commenters here who will be going tho.

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By: Howard Rowntree https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-2#comment-282678 Tue, 12 Jun 2007 19:14:59 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-282678 Well there’s one person who won’t be going to the reunion gig then. Nice to see so many open minded people in England. I always think the worst opinion you could possibly have of a band is indifferance!!!

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By: Murdoch https://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2002/09/carter/comment-page-1#comment-282049 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 14:28:50 +0000 https://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/2002/09/carter/#comment-282049 Assume away. You’ll be wrong, though.

I, on the other hand, will be right about MC4. ;)

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